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Old 06-01-2011, 02:14 PM   #1
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Xzilon?

So when I purchased my Camaro, they offered me this product call xzilon and told me it's a protecting coat on the car with a 5 year warranty. It was around $800 added to my loan. At first I didn't want it but the guy said it also protects the underneath from rusting, so I got it done and Had it droped off yesterday to have It reapplied for the 2nd time (after 6 months).I'm just wondering did anyone else get it, if their dealer offered it to them? And how's it working for you?
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Old 06-01-2011, 04:00 PM   #2
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Its an overpriced wax.. the car comes from the factory with corrosion protection for free
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Its called extra profit for the dealer...
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Old 06-01-2011, 04:31 PM   #4
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I was told that if you are the type of person that constantly washes/waxes your car, then something like this paint protection is not needed.
On the other hand, if you are a busy type of person that only washes/waxes their car a few times a year, then it may be worth it.
It will protect againt bug guts and bird crap and it will guaranty the gloss on the paint for 5 years or whatever it's warranty period is.

your choice.
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Old 06-01-2011, 04:33 PM   #5
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The "product" is a waste of money, time, and effort. You bought a paint warranty. I know, I used to work at the dealership.
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your 800 is more than that, since you are paying intrest on that loan. If it works, thats great.
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Old 06-01-2011, 04:40 PM   #7
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Hi guys,

I work at a dealership in the parts department here in AZ. Our salespeople upsell a product called IBEX and one treatment is for the paint and the other for the vehicles with leather interiors. The cost to the consumer is usually 750-850 per application and I'm telling you its a waste of your hard earned money as I know how much this stuff costs INCLUDING paying the detailing department to "apply" it. You would be shocked to know how much profit the dealerships are getting for it. Stay away from this it is just pure profit for your dealership. Just take care of your car and wash/wax normally like we all should.
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If you took that $800 and tossed it out the window on the highway it would be better served, at least then someone who may need it would find it. Save your money, it's a waste.
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Old 06-01-2011, 04:47 PM   #9
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I'm an aircraft technician and we use this stuff on the airplane to prevent bare metal from pitting and becoming corroded. I know it works well on bare metal not to sure about paint.
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I work at a dealership in the parts department here in AZ. Our salespeople upsell a product called IBEX and one treatment is for the paint and the other for the vehicles with leather interiors. The cost to the consumer is usually 750-850 per application and I'm telling you its a waste of your hard earned money as I know how much this stuff costs INCLUDING paying the detailing department to "apply" it. You would be shocked to know how much profit the dealerships are getting for it. Stay away from this it is just pure profit for your dealership. Just take care of your car and wash/wax normally like we all should.
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Old 06-01-2011, 06:08 PM   #12
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I work for a dealership as well and I offer something of more value for the same (or less) price. We offer our customers a "punch card" good for 4 complete paint protection packages. Each time they come in for the service they receive a clay bar treatment, buff, hand wax, polish and a complete interior detail. We do this every 6 months for the first 2 years or whenever the customer wants to use the card. To us that's a better value for the customer and we their car is taken care of at least 4 times, rather then one time only. We do offer Xzylon, but I try to stay away from it for the reasons stated in this thread.
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Old 06-01-2011, 08:52 PM   #13
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Well Xzilon has the 5 year warranty, which if you read means you could get it reapplied as many times within 5 years. So far I've gotten it 2 with in 5 months of owning mine. Now its pretty expensive, but I do plan on getting applied 5-6 times a year, which will keep my Camaro looking like the day I bought it 5 years ago. And I regularly wash my car and its clean 99% of the time, I mainly got it to save time on waxing, and for the underneath of the car to stay rust free down the line. I've checked online and you could buy stuff online for around $100 which is way cheaper and just apply it your self.
It is good stuff, but is it worth $600-$800? Probably not but if you dont want to spend that kind money then do it your self, I was just uneducated on it and was just plain excited about my car that I didn't think it through.
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It will protect againt bug guts and bird crap and it will guaranty the gloss on the paint for 5 years or whatever it's warranty period is.
This is not true. Salesman snake oil.
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i got the stuff on my camaro...they only charged me 400 tho. said i can bring it in for a full detail near t he end of the warrnaty or whenever i want
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I got it for free b/c I have the hook up.....car still gets dirty......
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I work for a dealership as well and I offer something of more value for the same (or less) price. We offer our customers a "punch card" good for 4 complete paint protection packages. Each time they come in for the service they receive a clay bar treatment, buff, hand wax, polish and a complete interior detail. We do this every 6 months for the first 2 years or whenever the customer wants to use the card. To us that's a better value for the customer and we their car is taken care of at least 4 times, rather then one time only. We do offer Xzylon, but I try to stay away from it for the reasons stated in this thread.

Free swirls and scratches for 2 whole years? What an awesome deal! I would never let any dealership "buff, hand wax, and polish" my car... dealerships are NOT detailers... totally different. Thanks for the deal, but no deal!
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Old 06-02-2011, 10:29 AM   #19
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... dealerships are NOT detailers... totally different.
Sad, but true.

Even if a dealership does employ a skilled detailer the time allotted and turnover expected doesn't allow for quality work. A friend of mine, a VERY talented detailer, has had to take a job as a 'porter/detailer' at a dealership due to tough times financially. He is capable of amazing work, but the dealership won't pay for quality supplies, won't allow him enough time to do anything more than just a rush job, and generally just want him to wash the car and throw on glaze as fast as humanly possible. Hes tried to show them what he can do and what it would mean to the delivery of vehicles to customers, but they don't seem to care.

It eats him alive inside, but paycheck is a paycheck when you need one so I don't blame him.

The things hes told me from 'behind the scenes' pretty much confirm what most of us are discussing here. The paint protection (they sell a similar thing at his dealership for $500) is nothing more than basic paint sealant., no different than something like our Superwax, or Zaino, or Powerlock, or any other number of quality paint sealants. According to him cost p/32oz a staggering $22 to the dealership... thats a NICE markup when you consider they probably treat around 20 cars with one bottle (20 cars x $500 = $10,000 minus $22 for the product and how ever many hours of labor to apply p/car)

The only justifiable part of the cost is the fact the 'protection' comes with a warranty for 5 years, the catch is (and the part most customers don't bother to read in the fine print) is that the car has to be brought back to the dealer every 6 months for a new coat or the warranty is void. They're pretty much banking on the fact you'll forget or you'll miss that 6 month window at some point.

Thats the part the salesmen don't tell you.
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Free swirls and scratches for 2 whole years? What an awesome deal! I would never let any dealership "buff, hand wax, and polish" my car... dealerships are NOT detailers... totally different. Thanks for the deal, but no deal!
It's not his first day on the job and we're not your typical dealership either. We've actually invested some time and money into training. Lol.

We also only use Meguires, Zaino, Adams and other quality chemicals. They're not out back with a gallon on Dawn detergent. Haha

I just walked out back and snapped a couple pics of my Z06 that has been cared for here at work on a regular basis by our detailer. Keep in mind this is mostly a track car that gets the chit beat out of it every weekend. We also do all the washing, clay bars, buffing etc here. Let me know if this looks like it's all scratched up and swirled.



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