Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
Hurst Shifters
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > Technical Camaro Topics > Cosmetic Maintenance: Washing, Waxing, Detailing, Bodywork, Protection

Cosmetic Maintenance: Washing, Waxing, Detailing, Bodywork, Protection Anything related to keeping your Camaro clean and in good cosmetic condition.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 06-04-2011, 11:20 AM   #1
pnyklr

 
Drives: A Gift From My Wife
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Powder Springs, GA
Posts: 1,524
How would you use a PC to fix this?

It's not Camaro related but you guys have a bunch of knowledge so I wanted to throw this out to you.

It's a 1998 Black BMW and the paint was in this condition when I bought the car. In the near future I am going to invest in a PC and would like your ideas on how to fix this. All the horizontal surfaces of the car have the same damage.

Any tips for a noob and a new PC?

-Funk



__________________
2012 Convert 2SS/RS SW/IO LS3 - Build #1081

07/21/2011 - (3800) Order produced and vehicle is being prepared for shipping.
08/09/2011 - (4200) Shipped (vehicle is shipped to the dealer or interim point of delivery).
08/16/2011 - (5000) Vehicle has been delivered to dealer.
08/19/2011 - In my possession.
pnyklr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2011, 11:33 AM   #2
PQ
1st State Chevy supporter
 
PQ's Avatar
 
Drives: Hybrid SS Camaro
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Mobile, AL
Posts: 36,717
Send a message via Yahoo to PQ
PCs don't work on BMWs.
__________________
PQ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2011, 11:34 AM   #3
PQ
1st State Chevy supporter
 
PQ's Avatar
 
Drives: Hybrid SS Camaro
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Mobile, AL
Posts: 36,717
Send a message via Yahoo to PQ



watch these videos
__________________
PQ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2011, 11:36 AM   #4
Iwantone2
Voice Of The Voiceless
 
Iwantone2's Avatar
 
Drives: CGM 1SS RS
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: OC Cali
Posts: 9,731
I think Junkman and his videos have pretty much outlined the process for you. You'll definitely want to invest in Adam's Polishes products and use those in conjunction with the PC. You'll need:

-Swirl and Haze Remover
-Fine Machine Polish
-Wax of your choice (Super Machine Wax - soon to be called Super Machine Sealant)
-PC Pads (Orange, White, and black) get black if you are going to be getting Super Machine Wax

Of course, you'll also need some Detail Spray to prime the pads. It wouldn't be a bad idea to invest in some quality microfiber towels as well.
__________________
Iwantone2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2011, 11:43 AM   #5
pnyklr

 
Drives: A Gift From My Wife
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Powder Springs, GA
Posts: 1,524
Quote:
Originally Posted by PQ View Post
PCs don't work on BMWs.
You aren't to far from me that I can't drive over there and put one of these down on you.

Besides, my '67 Camaro could benefit from a little PC work if that makes you happy.

-Funk
__________________
2012 Convert 2SS/RS SW/IO LS3 - Build #1081

07/21/2011 - (3800) Order produced and vehicle is being prepared for shipping.
08/09/2011 - (4200) Shipped (vehicle is shipped to the dealer or interim point of delivery).
08/16/2011 - (5000) Vehicle has been delivered to dealer.
08/19/2011 - In my possession.

Last edited by pnyklr; 06-04-2011 at 11:56 AM.
pnyklr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2011, 11:50 AM   #6
PQ
1st State Chevy supporter
 
PQ's Avatar
 
Drives: Hybrid SS Camaro
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Mobile, AL
Posts: 36,717
Send a message via Yahoo to PQ
Quote:
Originally Posted by pnyklr View Post
You aren't to far from me that I can't over there and put one of these down on you.

Besides, my '67 Camaro could benefit from a little PC work if that makes you happy.

-Funk


The vids I posted are from Junkman. Those will walk you right through it. It's pretty easy. And kinda fun.
__________________
PQ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2011, 12:06 PM   #7
pnyklr

 
Drives: A Gift From My Wife
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Powder Springs, GA
Posts: 1,524
I basically this kit along with a PC?

http://www.adamspolishes.com/p-478-a....aspx#contents

-Funk
__________________
2012 Convert 2SS/RS SW/IO LS3 - Build #1081

07/21/2011 - (3800) Order produced and vehicle is being prepared for shipping.
08/09/2011 - (4200) Shipped (vehicle is shipped to the dealer or interim point of delivery).
08/16/2011 - (5000) Vehicle has been delivered to dealer.
08/19/2011 - In my possession.
pnyklr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2011, 12:15 PM   #8
PQ
1st State Chevy supporter
 
PQ's Avatar
 
Drives: Hybrid SS Camaro
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Mobile, AL
Posts: 36,717
Send a message via Yahoo to PQ
Quote:
Originally Posted by pnyklr View Post
I basically this kit along with a PC?

http://www.adamspolishes.com/p-478-a....aspx#contents

-Funk
Easy to use and you'll have fun doing it and seeing the results.

But WATCH THE VIDS.

Gonna take about 45 minutes or so, but you HAVE to watch them. You'll be glad you did.
__________________
PQ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2011, 12:16 PM   #9
Junkman2008
"Detailing Devil Dog"
 
Junkman2008's Avatar
 
Drives: 2001 Corvette Coupe
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 2,734
Quote:
Originally Posted by pnyklr View Post
I basically this kit along with a PC?

http://www.adamspolishes.com/p-478-a....aspx#contents

-Funk
They sell those accessories along with the PC. Don't mix and match stuff together because you'll screw yourself with the price. Go with this kit, and add a gallon of Detail Spray to it. Oh, and use the coupon code in my sig. Saves you even more.

One thing that you haven't talked about is how you're going to avoid creating that damage in your paint again, after you fix it. Do you know?

Quote:
Originally Posted by PQ View Post
Easy to use and you'll have fun doing it and seeing the results.

But WATCH THE VIDS.

Gonna take about 45 minutes or so, but you HAVE to watch them. You'll be glad you did.
This is the voice of experience. Listen to him. One thing, it's going to take a lot longer than 45 minutes to watch them because you need to watch them about 3 times each.
__________________
"Marines - Making the other guy die for his country for over 200 years."


Junkman2008 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2011, 12:21 PM   #10
PQ
1st State Chevy supporter
 
PQ's Avatar
 
Drives: Hybrid SS Camaro
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Mobile, AL
Posts: 36,717
Send a message via Yahoo to PQ
Quote:
Originally Posted by Junkman2008 View Post
This is the voice of experience. Listen to him. One thing, it's going to take a lot longer than 45 minutes to watch them because you need to watch them about 3 times each.


I watched them about three times, but over the course of two years.

I'm getting pretty good at it. I just suck at the smaller areas where the pads are too big to get.
__________________
PQ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2011, 12:37 PM   #11
Tecca
.
 
Drives: ...
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: ...
Posts: 1,359
Guys keep in mind that this isn't a Camaro it is a BMW and has a hard as rock clearcoat. Yes follow Junks videos but you may need something more agressive to get those out as that is pretty gnarly.

You might need to go in with M105 and M205 first to get those swirls out. I just do not see Adams getting that fixed by itself.
Tecca is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2011, 12:46 PM   #12
BIGSWOLE
 
BIGSWOLE's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Cyber Grey 2SS/RS (L99)
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Luling,LA.
Posts: 109
Quote:
Originally Posted by pnyklr View Post
It's not Camaro related but you guys have a bunch of knowledge so I wanted to throw this out to you.

It's a 1998 Black BMW and the paint was in this condition when I bought the car. In the near future I am going to invest in a PC and would like your ideas on how to fix this. All the horizontal surfaces of the car have the same damage.

Any tips for a noob and a new PC?

-Funk



Watch the videos, then just start polishing.My first time using a pc ,I had it down by the time I was done the hood.
BIGSWOLE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2011, 01:20 PM   #13
pnyklr

 
Drives: A Gift From My Wife
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Powder Springs, GA
Posts: 1,524
Quote:
Originally Posted by Teccboxx View Post
Guys keep in mind that this isn't a Camaro it is a BMW and has a hard as rock clearcoat. Yes follow Junks videos but you may need something more agressive to get those out as that is pretty gnarly.

You might need to go in with M105 and M205 first to get those swirls out. I just do not see Adams getting that fixed by itself.
I was wondering about that. That's why I posted the make. And yes they are really gnarly swirls.

How about it Junkman, something a little more aggressive or will the Adams stuff be enough?

In answer to your question about how to prevent it in the future. I am selling the car this summer. Just wanted to make it look pretty for a prospective buyer.

-Funk
__________________
2012 Convert 2SS/RS SW/IO LS3 - Build #1081

07/21/2011 - (3800) Order produced and vehicle is being prepared for shipping.
08/09/2011 - (4200) Shipped (vehicle is shipped to the dealer or interim point of delivery).
08/16/2011 - (5000) Vehicle has been delivered to dealer.
08/19/2011 - In my possession.
pnyklr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2011, 01:29 PM   #14
PQ
1st State Chevy supporter
 
PQ's Avatar
 
Drives: Hybrid SS Camaro
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Mobile, AL
Posts: 36,717
Send a message via Yahoo to PQ
I'm 99% sure Junkman will say it doesn't matter. I believe we've been down this road.

But let's wait and see.

Name:  smiley5135[1].gif
Views: 301
Size:  19.9 KB Name:  popcorn4[1].gif
Views: 284
Size:  11.5 KB
__________________
PQ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2011, 01:30 PM   #15
Iwantone2
Voice Of The Voiceless
 
Iwantone2's Avatar
 
Drives: CGM 1SS RS
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: OC Cali
Posts: 9,731
Alright then...step up to Severe Swirl Remover
__________________
Iwantone2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2011, 01:32 PM   #16
PQ
1st State Chevy supporter
 
PQ's Avatar
 
Drives: Hybrid SS Camaro
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Mobile, AL
Posts: 36,717
Send a message via Yahoo to PQ
Rubbing compound.
__________________
PQ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2011, 01:43 PM   #17
pnyklr

 
Drives: A Gift From My Wife
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Powder Springs, GA
Posts: 1,524
400 wet/dry and a DA?

-Funk
__________________
2012 Convert 2SS/RS SW/IO LS3 - Build #1081

07/21/2011 - (3800) Order produced and vehicle is being prepared for shipping.
08/09/2011 - (4200) Shipped (vehicle is shipped to the dealer or interim point of delivery).
08/16/2011 - (5000) Vehicle has been delivered to dealer.
08/19/2011 - In my possession.
pnyklr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2011, 01:47 PM   #18
PQ
1st State Chevy supporter
 
PQ's Avatar
 
Drives: Hybrid SS Camaro
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Mobile, AL
Posts: 36,717
Send a message via Yahoo to PQ
Quote:
Originally Posted by pnyklr View Post
400 wet/dry and a DA?

-Funk
__________________
PQ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2011, 03:07 PM   #19
Junkman2008
"Detailing Devil Dog"
 
Junkman2008's Avatar
 
Drives: 2001 Corvette Coupe
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 2,734
Quote:
Originally Posted by Teccboxx View Post
Guys keep in mind that this isn't a Camaro it is a BMW and has a hard as rock clearcoat. Yes follow Junks videos but you may need something more agressive to get those out as that is pretty gnarly.

You might need to go in with M105 and M205 first to get those swirls out. I just do not see Adams getting that fixed by itself.
Quote:
Originally Posted by pnyklr View Post
I was wondering about that. That's why I posted the make. And yes they are really gnarly swirls.

How about it Junkman, something a little more aggressive or will the Adams stuff be enough?

In answer to your question about how to prevent it in the future. I am selling the car this summer. Just wanted to make it look pretty for a prospective buyer.

-Funk
That's exactly why the kit that I linked you to contains the Severe Swirl Remover Compound. In my garage, I have M105, 3M's #3 Rubbing Compound and Adam's Severe Swirl Remover. If he needed anything more aggressive, you can bet that I would send him in that direction. To often, folks want to use a sledge hammer where technique is all they need. Technique trumps product every time. Why do you all think that I can do what I do with what I use?
__________________
"Marines - Making the other guy die for his country for over 200 years."


Junkman2008 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2011, 03:53 PM   #20
Tecca
.
 
Drives: ...
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: ...
Posts: 1,359
Quote:
Originally Posted by Junkman2008 View Post
That's exactly why the kit that I linked you to contains the Severe Swirl Remover Compound. In my garage, I have M105, 3M's #3 Rubbing Compound and Adam's Severe Swirl Remover. If he needed anything more aggressive, you can bet that I would send him in that direction. To often, folks want to use a sledge hammer where technique is all they need. Technique trumps product every time. Why do you all think that I can do what I do with what I use?
Sorry about that Junkman, never looked at the link and honestly haven't used an adams product for a long time. I was just stating that those commenting should realize that BMW clearcoat is a lot harder than that of the camaro thus you will need a stronger polish to get good results. Now maybe your severe polish will work I don't know. However if I had the job of detailing this car I would go with a 105/205 combo without thinking twice. You go to any high end detailing shop and they would agree that this is one of the best 1, 2 combo's out there currently. Not that there are other options like Adams, menzerna, optimum, etc...,

I just wish at times that even though this has turned into a Adams Polishes forum, that people would realize that there are other products and brands out there. That is why I post different suggestions not that they are better than yours or anyone else it is just my opinion and how I would do it.
Tecca is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2011, 04:51 PM   #21
Junkman2008
"Detailing Devil Dog"
 
Junkman2008's Avatar
 
Drives: 2001 Corvette Coupe
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 2,734
I wouldn't have quart sized bottle of M105 and M205 if they weren't as good as advertised. Same with the 3M stuff (at darn near $40 a quart!), but then I mostly use the 3M stuff on new paint after doing some body work (like on my own car recently). I will say that the Adam's products will easily address most of what I see posted on these forums, albeit no product is best for everything. That's why I have a variety to choose from and use the proper product when applicable. Most folks are not going to remotely see the type of finishes or situations that I see and thus, will not need a variety of products to choose from. Given that most of the Camaros are relatively new, their paint should not be as jacked up as that BMW's.

I think that the majority of the folks using the Adam's line do so not just because it works but because of the customer service. The no frills, 110% money back guarantee is kinda hard to pass up. No other detailing product line does that. Couple that with ease of use and all the videos, and you eliminate a lot of confusion out there with novices to paint correction. All that kinda sucks you into the brand and once you find something that works, there's really no need for the weekend warrior to go hunting around.
__________________
"Marines - Making the other guy die for his country for over 200 years."


Junkman2008 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2011, 02:32 PM   #22
OBSSEST
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS RS, Black
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 413
Meguiar's M105 and M205 are both excellent. I am sure this will flare some "over the counter" product haters, but I have transitioned to Meguiar's Ultimate Compound rather than M105. The UC can be worked with a PC for much longer than the M105, which tends to dust very quickly. I have tackled swirls that bad with the UC on other people's cars and then finished it with a sealer/wax. It leaves that good of a final polish. If you are selling it anyways, that's what I would do.

Ultimate Compound with an Orange pad
Ultimate Wax
OBSSEST is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2011, 03:36 PM   #23
Tecca
.
 
Drives: ...
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: ...
Posts: 1,359
Quote:
Originally Posted by OBSSEST View Post
Meguiar's M105 and M205 are both excellent. I am sure this will flare some "over the counter" product haters, but I have transitioned to Meguiar's Ultimate Compound rather than M105. The UC can be worked with a PC for much longer than the M105, which tends to dust very quickly. I have tackled swirls that bad with the UC on other people's cars and then finished it with a sealer/wax. It leaves that good of a final polish. If you are selling it anyways, that's what I would do.

Ultimate Compound with an Orange pad
Ultimate Wax
Not at all that is a good consumer combo as you said it doesn't dust nearly as much as was actually made to compliment a da where the 105/205 combo was actually made for a rotary. However Mequires just made a V2 of the 105/205 polishes to where it works great with a da and actually dusts a lot less.
Tecca is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2011, 11:42 PM   #24
Junkman2008
"Detailing Devil Dog"
 
Junkman2008's Avatar
 
Drives: 2001 Corvette Coupe
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 2,734
Quote:
Originally Posted by OBSSEST View Post
Meguiar's M105 and M205 are both excellent. I am sure this will flare some "over the counter" product haters, but I have transitioned to Meguiar's Ultimate Compound rather than M105. The UC can be worked with a PC for much longer than the M105, which tends to dust very quickly. I have tackled swirls that bad with the UC on other people's cars and then finished it with a sealer/wax. It leaves that good of a final polish. If you are selling it anyways, that's what I would do.

Ultimate Compound with an Orange pad
Ultimate Wax
I haven't experienced nearly the dusting that you have with 105. It sounds like you're using way too much product o your pad.
__________________
"Marines - Making the other guy die for his country for over 200 years."


Junkman2008 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
What has broken on your new camaro? Why? And what did you do to fix it? 2010 Bumblebee Camaro Issues / Problems | Warranty Discussions | TSB and Recalls 221 09-25-2013 11:10 AM
Leather seats stretching: Dealer will fix. tangorover 5th Gen Camaro SS LS LT General Discussions 58 07-29-2011 07:08 PM
Does DRL ( non RS ) Mess with hids? how to fix it? xpanda305x Cosmetics and Lighting Modification Discussions 13 06-03-2011 08:46 AM
Fuse pull for low octane fuel fix Kman 2011 ss 5th Gen Camaro SS LS LT General Discussions 11 03-30-2011 09:28 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:22 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.