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Old 06-05-2011, 08:25 PM   #18
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Old 06-05-2011, 08:29 PM   #19
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The Z/28 will be your Boss fighter, but that won't be released for a while.
It's a known fact that the Camaro's excess weight is a hindrance to its performance compared to the lighter Mustang. However this is not a problem that can be fixed overnight or with a few simple changed on the current platform (the back seat doesn't even weigh that much). You could have expected the Mustang to perform better even without the test drive, from the reviews from most of the major car magazines that give the win to the Mustang. This does not mean that the Camaro is a poor quality car, and there are still plenty of other reasons to buy it.
If you are in a place to get a Grand Sport Corvette, you should take that in a heartbeat.
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Old 06-05-2011, 08:34 PM   #20
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Lightweight wheels are attainable. As are some power-adders for the LS3. Then, you don't have to live within the constraints of a Corvette which is quite non-functional in terms of cargo and passenger space.
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Old 06-05-2011, 08:39 PM   #21
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the Camaro can compete with the GT, but the Boss is a track day car that is in it's own category. what GM brings to that fight is still an overweight, big wheeler.. of course you can get a Grand Sport at much more money, and it's a great car, but i think for the price would you rather have a Boss or a widebody c6? if only GM got serious as Ford, Porsche, Lamborghini, and Ferrari when it comes to lightweight options...
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Old 06-05-2011, 08:42 PM   #22
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The Z/28 will be your Boss fighter, but that won't be released for a while.
It's a known fact that the Camaro's excess weight is a hindrance to its performance compared to the lighter Mustang. However this is not a problem that can be fixed overnight or with a few simple changed on the current platform (the back seat doesn't even weigh that much). You could have expected the Mustang to perform better even without the test drive, from the reviews from most of the major car magazines that give the win to the Mustang. This does not mean that the Camaro is a poor quality car, and there are still plenty of other reasons to buy it.
If you are in a place to get a Grand Sport Corvette, you should take that in a heartbeat.
I can't understand why everyone says "Get a Corvette". That's a totally different style of car in a totally different class. And, as far as the ZL1 not being able to run with the boss is concerned, I don't know where this is coming from when we don't even know how the car really runs yet. I've never seen a test done yet. Have you?
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Old 06-05-2011, 08:44 PM   #23
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if only GM got serious as Ford, Porsche, Lamborghini, and Ferrari when it comes to lightweight options...


Have you seen Grand Am racing lately? Camaro's been kicking the tail of those Boss's. The Camaro's have enormous potential. Don't try selling that BS here.

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Old 06-05-2011, 10:34 PM   #24
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Ford doesn't have a Corvette equivalent.



Unless you mean because the GT is better you're mistaken
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Old 06-05-2011, 10:50 PM   #25
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Unless you mean because the GT is better you're mistaken
Didn't they stop making the Ford GT in 2007?
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Old 06-05-2011, 10:53 PM   #26
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Ford doesn't have a Corvette equivalent. The Mustang is all they have to compete with both the Camaro and Corvette, so they are definitely going to release trim packages that the Camaro can't compete with but the Corvette can, and that's not a failing of the Camaro.

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Old 06-05-2011, 10:58 PM   #27
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Lightweight wheels are attainable. As are some power-adders for the LS3. Then, you don't have to live within the constraints of a Corvette which is quite non-functional in terms of cargo and passenger space.
Agreed, you can make the LS3 blow the doors of a BOSS 302... yet still have a stock looking car and interior with cargo space. Might not be for everyone, but its a perfect combo for me, Loads of power and speed (S/C or bolt ons), and on the nice sunny day when I want to go to the beach, I can pack up the cooler/chairs in my Camaro and make a day of it . Not so easy in a vette or Boss 302 is it?
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Old 06-05-2011, 11:02 PM   #28
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The next time I see a boss 302 will be the first time. Thats not what chevy is worried about,its the GT500, there actually selling
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Old 06-05-2011, 11:05 PM   #29
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No offense but did you go from wanting a Camaro to wanting a Camaro AutoX equipped to a Mustang to a Corvette Grand Sport for what $100,000.00? Also at roughly 2x the cost of any car you were considering or wishing GM would build?
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Old 06-05-2011, 11:09 PM   #30
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Unless you mean because the GT is better you're mistaken
How about a car that is actually in production that competes with a Vette?
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Old 06-05-2011, 11:25 PM   #31
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I couldn't care less about performance...a Mustang is still just a Mustang. Nice cars and all, but Camaros they ain't. It goes beyond performance.
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Old 06-05-2011, 11:26 PM   #32
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Is a lower weight that important?

Mustang = anorexic 70 lb girl.

Camaro = a smokin hot 110 lb victoria secret model.
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Old 06-05-2011, 11:43 PM   #33
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Unless you mean because the GT is better you're mistaken
In what area would the Ford GT beat a ZR1 Corvette exactly? It certainly isn't in the o-60 or the 1/4 or top speed or cornering and braking. Not to mention the GT cost about 40k more that a base ZR1 does today.
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Old 06-05-2011, 11:43 PM   #34
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Since we are on the topic of mustangs, I hear people talking about how the new 5.0. Mustang GT runs a tad faster than the SS. I would believe that with JUST new gearing in the SS that as at least equivalent to the 5.0's 3.73, they would be on par.
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