Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > Technical Camaro Topics > Wheels and Tires Talk Sponsored by The Tire Rack

Wheels and Tires Talk Sponsored by The Tire Rack Discuss issues related to wheels and tires

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 06-06-2011, 06:21 PM   #26
SUX2BU
Quit being a pu$$y
 
SUX2BU's Avatar
 
Drives: FAST
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Sachse TX (DFW)
Posts: 5,816
Quote:
Originally Posted by HumanWiki View Post
I'm confused a little.. Many people say how much faster it is and is very noticeable -- but, the times posted show 0.12 s diff and 1.3 MPH.. That's not what I'd call very noticeable. Now, if someone went say, 12.8 to 12.5 I'd call that noticeable, but not very.. I've been looking at options of different wheels/tires -- I like the idea of the smaller wheel, just don't know if I like the looks -- but, if I'm only looking at shaving off a tenth -- it's just not the money for me for a full set -- I wouldn't mind the 18s in a DR due to my blower, but for daily driving I don't think I'd notice that one bit.
I have been out driving all day and I honestly feel more of a difference with these wheels than when I did when I added long tubes, offroad x pipe, catback, under drive pulley, thermostat and CAI all at the same time!

I went to the track last week and this was my best time slip.
DA was +3518 :eek:
Corrected should be about 8.597 @ 86.492 MPH

I will go back this week. The only difference will be the wheels.

Last edited by SUX2BU; 06-06-2011 at 06:32 PM.
SUX2BU is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2011, 02:25 AM   #27
LoneStar


 
LoneStar's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 IOM Camaro
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Texas
Posts: 4,394
Glad you finally have your wheels! Car looks great!!!
__________________
LoneStar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2011, 10:00 AM   #28
Shardik2SS
How U Doin?
 
Drives: #21,644
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Californication
Posts: 24,566
I like em, and I'm also planning on dropping down to 18s. I'm thinking of running Weld's Street Performance RT-S wheels with 245/50s up front and 305/40s in the rear. I liked reading your thoughts and impressions on the 18s.
Shardik2SS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2011, 06:33 PM   #29
victoryred1ss
 
victoryred1ss's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 SS M6
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Utah
Posts: 556
Quote:
Originally Posted by HumanWiki View Post
I'm confused a little.. Many people say how much faster it is and is very noticeable -- but, the times posted show 0.12 s diff and 1.3 MPH.. That's not what I'd call very noticeable. Now, if someone went say, 12.8 to 12.5 I'd call that noticeable, but not very.. I've been looking at options of different wheels/tires -- I like the idea of the smaller wheel, just don't know if I like the looks -- but, if I'm only looking at shaving off a tenth -- it's just not the money for me for a full set -- I wouldn't mind the 18s in a DR due to my blower, but for daily driving I don't think I'd notice that one bit.

I think the other part of it for me is that I had way too much power for the stock tires, so stepping up to a 305 drag radial makes the car hook anytime I hit the gas.
__________________
TVS 2300 721RWHP 686RWTQ
Built by Me
Suspension done by JDP
Tune done by JRE
victoryred1ss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2011, 09:20 PM   #30
Dans2SS
 
Drives: Camaro 2SS/RS
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: MD
Posts: 145
wow any of the time I saw ppl dropping to 18s they were putting V6 brakes on. Then i see these thread. Man I'm really liking the 18s on the camaro. And I wasn't planning on spending money.
__________________
Dans2SS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2011, 09:35 PM   #31
GearheadSS
Member #63
 
GearheadSS's Avatar
 
Drives: Lots
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Dallas/Greenville, Texas
Posts: 1,965
I'm not gonna lie, I don't like them. I think there's too much sidewall and not enough wheel. I think a 19" would be the smallest I would do. The 19's that Nine Ball posted a couple of weeks ago looked great.
__________________
GearheadSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2011, 10:20 PM   #32
SUX2BU
Quit being a pu$$y
 
SUX2BU's Avatar
 
Drives: FAST
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Sachse TX (DFW)
Posts: 5,816
Quote:
Originally Posted by GearheadSS View Post
I'm not gonna lie, I don't like them. I think there's too much sidewall and not enough wheel. I think a 19" would be the smallest I would do. The 19's that Nine Ball posted a couple of weeks ago looked great.
Are you talking about the drag radials? The fronts have the exact same sidewall height as stock 20's.
SUX2BU is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2011, 11:04 PM   #33
GearheadSS
Member #63
 
GearheadSS's Avatar
 
Drives: Lots
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Dallas/Greenville, Texas
Posts: 1,965
Quote:
Originally Posted by SUX2BU View Post
Are you talking about the drag radials? The fronts have the exact same sidewall height as stock 20's.
Yes, and the tires that you went down from. The tires on the front look fine. To me, 18's just look small on these cars. I think a 20" is just about perfect but these 19's look great too.
Attached Images
    
__________________
GearheadSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2011, 12:00 AM   #34
SUX2BU
Quit being a pu$$y
 
SUX2BU's Avatar
 
Drives: FAST
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Sachse TX (DFW)
Posts: 5,816
Quote:
Originally Posted by GearheadSS View Post
Yes, and the tires that you went down from. The tires on the front look fine. To me, 18's just look small on these cars. I think a 20" is just about perfect but these 19's look great too.
I agree 20" wheels look best on these cars. Those 19's look awesome also. I was going for the lightest and 18 did it for me with out loosing too much of the looks. Those 28" rears are gonna be my track day wheels. I am putting some much smaller ones on for dailt driving. It will look closer to the car you posted with 19" wheels.


On a side not, the more I drive this car the more I love these wheels. The car is soooo much more fun now!
SUX2BU is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2011, 04:21 PM   #35
Tshepp
Show & Go
 
Tshepp's Avatar
 
Drives: '10 Camaro 1SS LS3
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Racine,WI
Posts: 238
Quote:
Originally Posted by SUX2BU View Post
I have been out driving all day and I honestly feel more of a difference with these wheels than when I did when I added long tubes, offroad x pipe, catback, under drive pulley, thermostat and CAI all at the same time!
WOW, now that is quite the claim...some people say you drop a tenth maybe two with lightweight wheels, I didn't imagine it being that drastic
__________________
Sold: Blk/Blk 2010 SS M6 - Speed Inc SI5V2 Cam & Tune, TSP Underdrive balancer, XS Power LTs, XS 3" Exhaust, Roto-Fab Intake, BMR 1" Drop Springs, and more. Only 5600 miles!
Tshepp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2011, 05:41 PM   #36
SUX2BU
Quit being a pu$$y
 
SUX2BU's Avatar
 
Drives: FAST
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Sachse TX (DFW)
Posts: 5,816
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tshepp View Post
WOW, now that is quite the claim...some people say you drop a tenth maybe two with lightweight wheels, I didn't imagine it being that drastic
I mean driving around aggressively, not really full on 1/4 mile run. I haven't done one of those yet, I'm guessing I will gain over half a second in the quarter and a couple mph. From the light weight wheels and because my best 60' on the stock tires was a 2.2 or so.
SUX2BU is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2011, 09:06 PM   #37
SUX2BU
Quit being a pu$$y
 
SUX2BU's Avatar
 
Drives: FAST
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Sachse TX (DFW)
Posts: 5,816
Here are my track results with street tires. I will be going out on drag radials next time.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=162390
SUX2BU is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2012, 12:57 PM   #38
SUX2BU
Quit being a pu$$y
 
SUX2BU's Avatar
 
Drives: FAST
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Sachse TX (DFW)
Posts: 5,816
Just wanted to update this.

My current street set up is the same fronts but I swapped to 335/30 18 BFG Gforce KDW rears, so I added a little more weight. This set up is only 60 lbs lighter than stock.

I also ordered some 18x10 F14s for the front w/ 295/30 18 BFG Gforce KDW. This will also increase my weight to only 46 lbs lighter than stock.

Here is all the wheel/tire weights I have compiled.

33.3 lbs 18x4 CTS-V spare w/ 185/50 18 M&H front runners
44.5 lbs 18x8.5 F14 w/ 245/45 18 no name tires
48.2 lbs 18x11 F14 w/ 315/30 18 Hoosier drag radials
51.3 lbs 18x10 F14 w/ 295/35 18 BFG G-force T/A KDW
53.0 lbs 18x10 F14 w/ 285/40 18 Goodyear F1 Supercar
53.5 lbs 18x11 F14 w/ 315/40 18 Nitto NT05R drag radials
54.5 lbs 18x11 F14 w/ 295/40 18 Falken Azenis RT-615K
56.6 lbs 18x11 F14 w/ 335/30 18 BFG G-force T/A KDW
62.3 lbs 20x8 Stock wheel w/ 245/45 20 Pirelli
68.0 lbs 20x9 Stock wheel w/ 275/40 20 Pirelli

Last edited by SUX2BU; 04-24-2012 at 06:38 PM.
SUX2BU is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2012, 12:43 PM   #39
Ir0nM4n


 
Ir0nM4n's Avatar
 
Drives: 14 1LE
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Washington
Posts: 2,445
Since I have the v6 I thought less rotational mass would help with some acceleration. Saying all this and knowing you have a better understanding than I. What would you go with for a daily driver using 18" rims. Would it be Nurburgring or Forgestar? Also could I go with 18X10's on the rear and not have it stick out.
__________________
Ir0nM4n is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2012, 01:44 PM   #40
SUX2BU
Quit being a pu$$y
 
SUX2BU's Avatar
 
Drives: FAST
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Sachse TX (DFW)
Posts: 5,816
Quote:
Originally Posted by MINI HLK View Post
Since I have the v6 I thought less rotational mass would help with some acceleration. Saying all this and knowing you have a better understanding than I. What would you go with for a daily driver using 18" rims. Would it be Nurburgring or Forgestar? Also could I go with 18X10's on the rear and not have it stick out.
It ALL depends on what you want out of your car.


The Nurburgrings wheels are a lot cheaper and if you don't want a custom size and offset I would definitely run those. I think the Forgestars look a little better and I wanted a custom size that TSW wheels don't have.

If you want the lightest wheels I would go with some 18x8 all the way around on some 245 tires. The aspect ratio is up to you. I ran a 45 ratio and the tire was 26.7" tall, you can also run a 50 ratio (27.6" tall) or a 55 ratio (28.6" tall). The latter will give you stock size so it won't affect your speedo the other sizes your speedo will be off by 3.6% and 7% respectively. If you want a little more width you can run a wider tire, a 255 or even 265, but remember wider tires are heavier.

If you want to go a bit wider you can run 18x9.5 all the way around with up to a 295 or as narrow as a 275. Again the aspect ratio is up to you. The lower aspect ratio will be lighter and handle better, but it will lower your car , increase fender gap and throw your speedo off.

If you want to go absolute widest all around you would have to go 18x10 Forgestars, which is what I am doing.

I am not a fan of staggered set ups, but you could do a 18x8 front and 18x9.5 rear Nurburgring. Or if you want to go SUPER DUPER wide you can run 18x10 front and 18x11 rear Forgestars.
SUX2BU is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2012, 07:58 PM   #41
Ir0nM4n


 
Ir0nM4n's Avatar
 
Drives: 14 1LE
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Washington
Posts: 2,445
Ok so what is the cost of a 18X10 forgstar with your same concave. If needed you can pm me.
__________________
Ir0nM4n is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2012, 09:31 AM   #42
Nine Ball


 
Nine Ball's Avatar
 
Drives: 1969 & 2011 Camaro SS
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 3,842
Forgestar 18s are $1350/set.

Tony
Nine Ball is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2012, 12:41 PM   #43
SUX2BU
Quit being a pu$$y
 
SUX2BU's Avatar
 
Drives: FAST
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Sachse TX (DFW)
Posts: 5,816
Quote:
Originally Posted by MINI HLK View Post
Ok so what is the cost of a 18X10 forgstar with your same concave. If needed you can pm me.
This is who I ordered mine from. Great guy and the best prices.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nine Ball View Post
Forgestar 18s are $1350/set.

Tony
I would hold off on ordering until after I get mine in, probably around the end of the month. I ordered a my own very aggressive offset so they won't stick out at all! My fronts will be VERY close to the strut and might actually rub a tiny bit. After I get mine mounted I will post pictures and see how well my offsets work.
SUX2BU is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2012, 02:05 PM   #44
Ir0nM4n


 
Ir0nM4n's Avatar
 
Drives: 14 1LE
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Washington
Posts: 2,445
You know decisions are a tough thing...
__________________
Ir0nM4n is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2012, 01:24 PM   #45
Ir0nM4n


 
Ir0nM4n's Avatar
 
Drives: 14 1LE
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Washington
Posts: 2,445
Quote:
Originally Posted by SUX2BU View Post
This is who I ordered mine from. Great guy and the best prices.


I would hold off on ordering until after I get mine in, probably around the end of the month. I ordered a my own very aggressive offset so they won't stick out at all! My fronts will be VERY close to the strut and might actually rub a tiny bit. After I get mine mounted I will post pictures and see how well my offsets work.
Ok I think you have your rims and tires now. How about a picture or two and some thoughts?
__________________
Ir0nM4n is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2012, 04:08 PM   #46
Montducati
 
Montducati's Avatar
 
Drives: 45th Edition SS, Ducati Diavel, 996
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 239
IMO GM got it right with the Camaro, the 20's look best, the 18's and even the 19's look to small for this car. It changes the look in an adverse way, the car is to wide and muscular for an 18" wheel, I had 18" wheels on my Mini Cooper S!!!
__________________
2012 45th Edition SS LS3 Hurst equipped
Bowtie!! What Bowtie??
Montducati is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2012, 05:23 PM   #47
SUX2BU
Quit being a pu$$y
 
SUX2BU's Avatar
 
Drives: FAST
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Sachse TX (DFW)
Posts: 5,816
Quote:
Originally Posted by MINI HLK View Post
Ok I think you have your rims and tires now. How about a picture or two and some thoughts?
Wheels fit PERFECT! The tires not so great. The sidewalls have quite a bit of bulge to them. The middle of the sidewall bulges so much that it comes extremely close to the strut.
I'm betting some 295s with a flat sidewall would have more clearance than these 285s with a bulging sidewall. Some wide 275s would fit even better. Oh well, they were dirt cheap and I'll go with some flat sidewall tires next time.

I haven't posted any pics yet because I am changing my suspension up and have her on stock springs right now, so she is in full 4x4 mode and looks pretty goofy. I'll post up a ton of pics once I get her back down to the ground.

Other than that they handle GREAT! Car feels incredibly responsive and so much more controllable.
it's kind of hard to explain, it's not like the car felt uncontrollable before but it just feels so much better now.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Montducati View Post
IMO GM got it right with the Camaro, the 20's look best, the 18's and even the 19's look to small for this car. It changes the look in an adverse way, the car is to wide and muscular for an 18" wheel, I had 18" wheels on my Mini Cooper S!!!
I think the perfect size for these cars is 19s. My 18s are a little tighter but do look too small. IMO 20s are heavy SUV wheels, stock rears are 68 lbs and even the narrower fronts are 62.3 lbs. Hell, my 6,060 lb Escalade ESVs 31.6" stock wheels/tires are 56 lbs each! Not sure why my muscle car needs stock wheels that are 36.6 lbs heavier than my giant SUV.

My 18x10 Forgestar F14s with 285/40 18s come in at 53 lbs!!!

When it comes to my muscle car i will give up a little in the looks department to get a ton more in every single performance department.
SUX2BU is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-26-2012, 01:52 AM   #48
Ir0nM4n


 
Ir0nM4n's Avatar
 
Drives: 14 1LE
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Washington
Posts: 2,445
Any pics yet? Sorry just wondering.
__________________
Ir0nM4n is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-26-2012, 09:17 AM   #49
SGOS252382


 
SGOS252382's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: S.W. Florida
Posts: 6,290
Quote:
Originally Posted by SUX2BU View Post
Wheels fit PERFECT! The tires not so great. The sidewalls have quite a bit of bulge to them. The middle of the sidewall bulges so much that it comes extremely close to the strut.
I'm betting some 295s with a flat sidewall would have more clearance than these 285s with a bulging sidewall. Some wide 275s would fit even better. Oh well, they were dirt cheap and I'll go with some flat sidewall tires next time.

I haven't posted any pics yet because I am changing my suspension up and have her on stock springs right now, so she is in full 4x4 mode and looks pretty goofy. I'll post up a ton of pics once I get her back down to the ground.

Other than that they handle GREAT! Car feels incredibly responsive and so much more controllable.
it's kind of hard to explain, it's not like the car felt uncontrollable before but it just feels so much better now.

I think the perfect size for these cars is 19s. My 18s are a little tighter but do look too small. IMO 20s are heavy SUV wheels, stock rears are 68 lbs and even the narrower fronts are 62.3 lbs. Hell, my 6,060 lb Escalade ESVs 31.6" stock wheels/tires are 56 lbs each! Not sure why my muscle car needs stock wheels that are 36.6 lbs heavier than my giant SUV.

My 18x10 Forgestar F14s with 285/40 18s come in at 53 lbs!!!

When it comes to my muscle car i will give up a little in the looks department to get a ton more in every single performance department.
Trust me, your car with 18" looks "muscular." It looks more "muscular" and aggressive than stock Camaro SS, that's for sure.
I guess you should have gotten a Mini Cooper with 18". lol
But we do understand that 20" wheels do look good on a Camaro. But some are more concerned with performance.

And my buddy's Camaro SS with 17" Welds looks extremely "muscular." He gets compliments everywhere from hard core racers and old school muscle car guys.

So it more about how your car is setup. Not necessarly the wheels size.

Car with 22"+ wheels to me look anti performance (less muscular to me).

Like I said its all about the setup. This car looks very muscular with 18" wheels.
__________________

Last edited by SGOS252382; 06-26-2012 at 12:42 PM.
SGOS252382 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-26-2012, 11:54 AM   #50
SGOS252382


 
SGOS252382's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: S.W. Florida
Posts: 6,290
Here's another one of my favorites.
This car truely looks bad axx. Its running 18" wheels. You see a car setup like this on the street and you know its all about performance.
__________________
SGOS252382 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Forgestar Wheels at DV8 Motoring - 18s, 19s, 20s, 22s! Nine Ball Wheels / Tires 688 11-01-2013 11:38 AM
Forgestar F14 22x9 & 22x10.5 Photos on Camaro SS Nine Ball Wheels and Tires Talk Sponsored by The Tire Rack 39 08-06-2012 11:15 PM
Forgestar F14 Weights & Photos on SS Nine Ball Wheels and Tires Talk Sponsored by The Tire Rack 36 07-05-2012 08:20 PM
NEW YEARS RESOLUTION WEIGHT LOSS THREAD BeckyD@RodgersChevrolet Off-topic Discussions 2503 01-03-2012 03:57 PM
/// Forgestar F14 Wheel Specials! Wheel Studio Wheels / Tires 48 11-19-2010 02:15 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:40 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.