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Old 06-16-2011, 04:10 PM   #276
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I agree but remember when the Camaro SS's final hp figures came out...it happened to be only 1hp more than the Challenger's SRT8 (425hp) making it 426hp? I was like WTF!!! So I hope they won't do it to the ZL1.
However that IS acceptable if the GT500 is 600hp and the ZL1 comes out at 601hp
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Old 06-16-2011, 04:28 PM   #277
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I agree but remember when the Camaro SS's final hp figures came out...it happened to be only 1hp more than the Challenger's SRT8 (425hp) making it 426hp? I was like WTF!!! So I hope they won't do it to the ZL1.
Ford did the same thing with their V6 Mustang. 1 HP and 1 MPG more than the Camaro. It's definitely a trend that I hope won't continue with the ZL1.
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True, but the issue is that the Shelby that they bring to market shortly after the ZL1 is going to be a whole other animal. I don't know how much they'll address the traction issues, but rumors are 600+hp.

That's the target the ZL1 will have to compete with, not the old model.
Well bring on that snake lol. Gotta love these car wars. I still can't wait to see the ZL1 stomp it. I can't wait to see all the new cars at the track. Should make for some fun times......esp for the sleeper cars like my SS. Maybe the Z will have 585 or 600hp, or maybe 560hp with some mean torque numbers. But with the bigger tires on the Camaro, I don't think the Mustang has a chance. Every Shelby I've raced has had crazy traction issues while my bigger tires have just hugged the ground as I left em......let's hope for the same outcome.
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I agree but remember when the Camaro SS's final hp figures came out...it happened to be only 1hp more than the Challenger's SRT8 (425hp) making it 426hp? I was like WTF!!! So I hope they won't do it to the ZL1.
I'm sure that was purely a coincidence ... lol
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Ford did the same thing with their V6 Mustang. 1 HP and 1 MPG more than the Camaro. It's definitely a trend that I hope won't continue with the ZL1.
Problem is, if both the ZL1 & the GT500 are released at roughly the same time next year neither company will have the time to get their car rated at just enough to beat the other guy. Plus, with SAE certified hp ratings, there isn't a whole lot of wiggle room. So if the margin between the two engines is more than lets say 1%, I don't think it will be possible to give them near identical ratings.
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Old 06-17-2011, 12:54 PM   #281
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I'm sure that was purely a coincidence ... lol

Problem is, if both the ZL1 & the GT500 are released at roughly the same time next year neither company will have the time to get their car rated at just enough to beat the other guy. Plus, with SAE certified hp ratings, there isn't a whole lot of wiggle room. So if the margin between the two engines is more than lets say 1%, I don't think it will be possible to give them near identical ratings.
In my opinion, the only ratings that matter, when dealing with this type of car is which one are Performace numbers! As far as a total package, I can't see the Shelby beating the ZL1, but time will tell!

Either way, it's going to be an interesting year!
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Old 06-17-2011, 01:27 PM   #282
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I see the ignition sparks are all ready for main engine start.

That car doesn't need solid rocket boosters to launch.


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was watching the ZL1 checkered test car around a track on youtube....there was a car that lapped it. Was it an Audi? The ZL1 roars and I love the stance.
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was watching the ZL1 checkered test car around a track on youtube....there was a car that lapped it. Was it an Audi? The ZL1 roars and I love the stance.
If it's the video I think you're talking about, it's an LFA.
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So in an auto trans ZL1 will the LSA have AFM?
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If it's the video I think you're talking about, it's an LFA.
but the zl1 hadn't accelerated
as you can see he has set the indicator so he didn't accelerate ..

or am i wrong ??
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So in an auto trans ZL1 will the LSA have AFM?
Since the LSA doesn't have AFM, so I'm gunna have to say no.
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Old 06-18-2011, 02:40 AM   #292
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but the zl1 hadn't accelerated
as you can see he has set the indicator so he didn't accelerate ..

or am i wrong ??
He let the LFA pass.
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I was almost ready to buy a '67 project car & put a 454 or something similarly nasty in it when they finally announced the go ahead for what turned out to be ZL1.

Either way would have been beastly, but the new ZL1 will hold the road like it has claws instead of tires compared to an extra heavy 67.

There's no way on Earth I could come close to matching the tech the new ZL1 contains.


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I wish they surprise surprise us with a dual clutch transmission. That coupled with launch control and the GT500 would be in trouble.
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I was almost ready to buy a '67 project car & put a 454 or something similarly nasty in it when they finally announced the go ahead for what turned out to be ZL1.

Either way would have been beastly, but the new ZL1 will hold the road like it has claws instead of tires compared to an extra heavy 67.

There's no way on Earth I could come close to matching the tech the new ZL1 contains.


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Is there a set number of ZL!'s to be built ? Any idea on the MSRP yet ?
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As many as will be purchased. They'll make them as long as they sell.
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Is there a set number of ZL!'s to be built ? Any idea on the MSRP yet ?
GM won't artificially restrict the number of ZL1's built. They haven't said anything about pricing, but expect it to be priced comparably to the GT500 (around $50,000)
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Old 06-23-2011, 08:57 PM   #300
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i heard from a birdy locally its supposed to be around 600hp, and this birdy has reliable sources.
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