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Old 06-13-2011, 03:01 PM   #188
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Talking guess I was bored lol

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How so? Automatics are prefered method of drag racers due to the fact that it is consistant for race times.

I have a M6 in my SS, yeah it's fun and I love it, but if I want to get better times and not be all over the place I'll buy an auto for the ZL-1.

Plus stop and go traffic on a manual sucks monkey butt.
Ehh just goofing off man, like Chevy vs Ford or 6 banger vs V8, the old argument of manual vs auto is just fun lol. Personally I don't take any of it too seriously in addition I just drive my car for the smiles per hour! I happen to love manuals. I don't seriously race nor do I intend to. I do think all those arguments are entertaining in some of the silly responses some people post. Anyways enjoy what ever you like! It's your car after all! I would agree I wouldn't want a manual if I daily drove in downtown San Fransisco for example lol, the hills + trafic are murder!


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Old 06-13-2011, 03:19 PM   #189
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I agree with you 100%, buy what you like! That's why we have a lot of choices for the Camaro.

I bought mine as a M6 becuase I wanted to have a lower vehicle payment and I didn't want my wife to drive it. She would destroy my car if she tried to drive a manual.

But now that I have see what goes on with drag racing, I am leaning more twards the auto. I have driven my car in heavy stop and go traffice for a few hours, I didn't enjoy it to much. (Left leg was getting tired!)
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Old 06-13-2011, 03:39 PM   #190
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that's awesome the ZL1 is getting better and better
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Old 06-13-2011, 04:16 PM   #191
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Man thank God in heaven they are making the ZL1 women friendly! HAHAHAHAHA! LOL! OK dont get toO mad lol just making jokes ladies, that was really more directed at males that want an automatic HAHAHAHAHA!

ROFL!


First off congratz on your purchase of your camaro! I know your joking about the automatic versus the manual transmission debate and the wife
acceptance factor.

For me personally even though I'm married and all it's like hmm I'll be 57
when I buy this car. Do I want to row the gears when I'm in my sixties,
I mean it's been since the early 80's that I drove a stick. When my wife and I test drove an SS manual earlier in the year, I stalled out several
times and shifter gears from second to third was difficult. I read on the forums that the manual at times was having it's problems. Hopefully the ZL1 will be easier to shift, I mean after twenty to thirty
minutes of shifting I was getting use to it. But the shear power of the SS
and launching it from the get go after driving honda's for 20 years is like
OMG. I can just imagine what it's going to be like with the ZL1.

My brother who is five years younger then me is drving a 2005 mustang GT and made a comment which kinda surprised me. He said the
only thing I regret doing at the time I bought this car was not buying an
automatic instead of a manual. He said intially the manual was alot of fun,
but the thrill wore off pretty quickly with the kind of traffic we have around here, and using the clutch has become more work then fun.

As far as my wife she has no desire to drive this car, but is very grateful
that the passenger side seat will be adjustable with the 2012 models. When we test drove the SS thats the one thing she complained about
which was she could not see over the hood. So now that this has been taken care of, everything is good in the world, THANKYOU GM!
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Old 06-13-2011, 04:40 PM   #192
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Any insights on how much higher the HP would be? I mean 556 is greater than 550, but the comments make it seem like it would be higher than the 556 number.
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Old 06-13-2011, 04:48 PM   #193
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Any insights on how much higher the HP would be? I mean 556 is greater than 550, but the comments make it seem like it would be higher than the 556 number.
No, he wouldn't elaborate on any specifics.... He just made is abundantly clear that the CTS-V was a starting point and it would be higher than that, and that they planned on destroying mustangs....lol I know the GT500 to come is supposed to be pretty healthy.... I mean, the CTS-V already beats the GT500 in performance on that platform..... and we are getting a lighter (hopefully) car than the CTS-V, better suspension, more downword force (which helps in handling, but hurts top end), better rims and rubber, etc.... I get so excited thinking about this..... I might be selling my truck.... anyone want a 2500HD crew cab that looks like brand new?
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Old 06-13-2011, 04:51 PM   #194
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Any insights on how much higher the HP would be? I mean 556 is greater than 550, but the comments make it seem like it would be higher than the 556 number.
I'm thinking 585 to possible 600, but just pure speculation on my part.
From the commenst they made recently at the Canada open house and
making referances that this will be a snake killer. Just have to wait and see, I mean thier still fine tuning this car and I have faith that the ZL1
will be worth the wait.
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Old 06-13-2011, 04:53 PM   #195
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I have been following this site since the Gen5 camaro came out. I don't know why I never joined, but all this ZL1 talk I guess was my push over the edge. I am looking forward to this car's release. I hope to get one eventually as a gift to me when I finish college in about a year and a half. If I cannot afford one I may just buy an SS then. It won't be a DD, but my weekend toy. I plan on keeping my Malibu as my DD for the MPG's I am getting. The option of the automatic announced made me very happy because I drive mostly in traffic where a manual would be tiring.
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Old 06-13-2011, 04:55 PM   #196
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am very happy to hear that

we will wait for the price

waiting for the ZL1
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Old 06-13-2011, 04:57 PM   #197
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First off congratz on your purchase of your camaro! I know your joking about the automatic versus the manual transmission debate and the wife
acceptance factor.

For me personally even though I'm married and all it's like hmm I'll be 57
when I buy this car. Do I want to row the gears when I'm in my sixties,
I mean it's been since the early 80's that I drove a stick. When my wife and I test drove an SS manual earlier in the year, I stalled out several
times and shifter gears from second to third was difficult. I read on the forums that the manual at times was having it's problems. Hopefully the ZL1 will be easier to shift, I mean after twenty to thirty
minutes of shifting I was getting use to it. But the shear power of the SS
and launching it from the get go after driving honda's for 20 years is like
OMG. I can just imagine what it's going to be like with the ZL1.

My brother who is five years younger then me is drving a 2005 mustang GT and made a comment which kinda surprised me. He said the
only thing I regret doing at the time I bought this car was not buying an
automatic instead of a manual. He said intially the manual was alot of fun,
but the thrill wore off pretty quickly with the kind of traffic we have around here, and using the clutch has become more work then fun.

As far as my wife she has no desire to drive this car, but is very grateful
that the passenger side seat will be adjustable with the 2012 models. When we test drove the SS thats the one thing she complained about
which was she could not see over the hood. So now that this has been taken care of, everything is good in the world, THANKYOU GM!

My long in the tooth daily driver of almost 10 years is a manual transmission. I live in the city and definitely know what stop and go traffic is like and it doesn't bother me one bit (except that traffic sucks regardless of what transmission you drive). There is not a single bit of doubt that I want a 6 speed ZL1.

I forgot who mentioned it in one of these manual vs auto threads, but they said that those that want manual know without a doubt that opting to row the gears is the right choice for them. For those that are unsure or are having second guesses (especially those that have experience with manual), the auto would likely be the best choice for them in the long run.

I think that person hit the nail on the head.
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Any insights on how much higher the HP would be? I mean 556 is greater than 550, but the comments make it seem like it would be higher than the 556 number.
If boost stays the same, I am guessing 575hp maybe 580hp on the high-end. IMVHO The ZL-1 main advantage over the GT-500 will be traction not really Horse Power. Stronger Axles, PTM, Magna Ride, 20x10 Front & 20x11 Rear wheels should keep the ZL-1 Glued to the road pretty well. Ford can give the GT-500 more HP but if it has a hard time getting it to the ground then it does not do much good, other than winning burnout competitions.
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Old 06-13-2011, 05:23 PM   #199
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So they know what it's going to cost but just aren't releasing the numbers yet.

Everybody brace for impact when this thing comes in at $56k :(
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Old 06-13-2011, 05:23 PM   #200
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http://www.caranddriver.com/news/car...os-future_cars

Just saw this on caranddriver.com ...whoohoo!!! This is going to get very interesting now.
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Old 06-13-2011, 05:52 PM   #201
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Just saw this on caranddriver.com ...whoohoo!!! This is going to get very interesting now.



Nice catch. Somebody said BLUE ?

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EDIT: I thought the photoshopped blue ZL1 was the news he was talking about at first. Should have known Car & Driver wouldn't say anything nice about the Camaro. I did sign up over there just to post a rebuttal.
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http://www.roadandtrack.com/future-c...g-shelby-gt600

and this one...hmmm...looks like IRS maybe
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http://www.roadandtrack.com/future-c...g-shelby-gt600

and this one...hmmm...looks like IRS maybe
Not happening, I don't even see what they are looking at in the Picture? No IRS for the Mustang until 2014.
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