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Old 03-11-2009, 04:37 PM   #1
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Time to craft letters to the editor!

http://money.cnn.com/2009/03/11/auto...ion=2009031112

There's a lot of complete bull crap in there, but one section I want to point out is near the bottom. Mr. Taylor claims the Prius gets 50 mpg, and the Insight gets 43 mpg highway. Then he claims the closest thing GM offers is the Cobalt, which he says gets only 25 mpg. The Cobalt does indeed get 25 mpg, in the city. Yes, he compaired two cars' highway mileage to a Chevy's city mileage, and passed this off as a fair comparison. This is exactly the source of GM's problems. Journalists give the public false impressions on INTENTIONALLY misleading statements. I hope you'll all join me in sending forceful responses to this dishonesty.
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Old 03-11-2009, 04:51 PM   #2
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For reference, the letter I sent:

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In the recent Alex Taylor Motor World article "GM Has More Troubles Than You Think," Mr Taylor compares the product offerings on Toyota, Honda, and GM. He states the Toyota Prius gets 50 mpg, the Honda Insight gets 43 mpg highway, and the Chevrolet Cobalt simply gets 25 mpg. The Chevrolet Cobalt indeed does get 25 mpg, in city driving. It gets 37 mpg on the highway. This statement is intentionally and shamelessly misleading. It is unfair, inaccurate, and unethical to compare efficiency metrics using different standards without expressly stating that difference. GM has many problems, many of its own making, but perhaps the biggest problem is a perception gap between the actual quality of its products and the quality perception held by the consumer. The media has played a large role in creating this gap, and misleading statements such as this one only worsen that gap. GM has made great strides in recent years in improving its product quality to meet or exceed that of its competitors. It deserves to be acknowledged for that. A prosperous, profitable, and competitive domestic auto industry is a key compenent of our national economy. Please do work against our auto industry with such blatant and unfounded bias towards foreign competitors.
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Old 03-11-2009, 05:01 PM   #3
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That guy needs to eat shit and die.
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Old 03-11-2009, 05:07 PM   #4
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The Prius also doesn't get 50 mpg, it gets 43.
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Old 03-11-2009, 05:07 PM   #5
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thats just the tip of the iceberg. imagine all the other stories they maliciously report... it gets you to thinking
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Old 03-11-2009, 05:12 PM   #6
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The Prius also doesn't get 50 mpg, it gets 43.
I believe he was referring to the next gen Prius, which I think does get 50.
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Old 03-11-2009, 05:13 PM   #7
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Did he take the time to mention the 8-6-4 Caddy or the Cimmaron? What a tool. Toyota Prius and it's batteries are an environmental catastrophy - that is a fact he can chew on and hopefully choke on as well.

Plus, it's CNN...who the hell believes anything they - OR ANY OTHER MEDIA OUTLET -has to say?
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Old 03-11-2009, 05:19 PM   #8
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Seems like he loves to quote Consumer reports but also fails to mention that the Corvette Z06 and Chevy Avalanch are on it's best list....
also this quote from CR
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There is some good news: New models from GM now rank among the best in our testing, although overall reliability, even among some of the new models, still lags behind most of the competition. GM models that score well in our tests include the Buick Enclave, Cadillac CTS, Chevrolet Corvette, Chevrolet Malibu, Chevrolet Traverse, GMC Acadia, Pontiac G8, and Saturn Outlook.
Seems like these so called money experts WANT GM to fail..
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Old 03-11-2009, 05:43 PM   #9
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Oh wow.. Now that hurts. You can't even say "I misread that" after reading that blurb. What a tool.
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Old 03-11-2009, 05:49 PM   #10
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Alex Taylor is the biggest pile of crap that has ever typed an article. I've sent him a TON of angry emails about his articles. He's been a GM hater ever since he started writing. I remember one article he wrote about the Volt in which he criticized its slow 0-60 time but then praised the prius in the very next paragraph.
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Yet he claims he grew up loving GM and wanting to work for them. Sounds like he got burned once, grew bitter, and now holds a stupid grudge. I agree, total tool.
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isnt it a crime to present false/misleading information to the public?
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isnt it a crime to present false/misleading information to the public?
Slander. While I don't know if it's a crime, it's most def sueable.
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Slander. While I don't know if it's a crime, it's most def sueable.
Possible method for GM to get some money? es possible
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He also failed to mention the Volt is on its way and is based off a substantially better idea for a hybrid car since all you need for an engine is a generator, a fuel cell could be used and it would not change the driving characteristics one bit. Plus it has the potential to go thousands of miles without refilling the gas tank.
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Old 03-11-2009, 09:25 PM   #16
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isnt it a crime to present false/misleading information to the public?
its not a crime; the media does it all the time... its one of the things they do best. they just need to print a retraction or correction that no one will read. there's a word for them: drive by media
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Slander. While I don't know if it's a crime, it's most def sueable.
slander is spoken, libel is print.

either way, the only way it's really a crime is if false information was intentionally presented to disrepute or cause harm to another entity.
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slander is spoken, libel is print.

either way, the only way it's really a crime is if false information was intentionally presented to disrepute or cause harm to another entity.
are these "journalists" writing not causing harm to GM and the other members of the detroit triumvirate? and judging by some of their "facts" they do it intentionally.
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slander is spoken, libel is print.
Hmm I didn't know there was a different name for print. I've always heard both called slander.
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slander is spoken, libel is print.

either way, the only way it's really a crime is if false information was intentionally presented to disrepute or cause harm to another entity.
Exactly what his article is doing!
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