ZL1 VS SHELBY GT500

[Blue Maro Demon]

Heres a new video of 2 Shelby GT500'S being tested on the Nurburgring.... What do you guys think? I hope ZL1 will respond with more horsepower once they are released.

[Blue Maro Demon]

One thing is for sure the ZL1 kills the Shelby looks wise this car doesnt have the looks!

[8cd03gro]

I didn't hear any blower whine. . . looks pretty tight in the corners. One thing's for sure, this and zl1 are going to be two nasty mothers.

[newmoon]

Car sounded great but I also didn't hear any whine.

[8cd03gro]

Also looks like a fmic on the black one at the end. Could just be a different heat exchanger though.

[BigDan]

Originally Posted by Blue Maro Demon

Heres a new video of 2 Shelby GT500'S being tested on the Nurburgring.... What do you guys think?

I think the ZL1 will rule the streets with its IRS and automatic, while the GT500 will rule the track.

[Blue Maro Demon]

I think the ZL1 has alot more technology put into it with traction from the Corvette ZR-1 I think Camaro has this alltogether.

[4thGen427CI]

From what I've read and heard... the new shelby GT500 is rumored to be turbo'd... I have no official confirmation. But that MIGHT explain no whine from the front of the car...

[Mr CLuTcH]

I think the ZL1 will out-perform the GT500; because of the closeness in power you can expect it to be close, but I do suspect, given the setup, the ZL1 will beat the GT500. Chevy practically built this car to destroy the GT500, so I think they'll suceed but I don't know what Ford is bringing to the table the following year, as a response to the ZL1.

The 2012 GT500 might come with more power, something it isn't hard for the shelby to already make, but I think its going to take more than just power to beat the new ZL1.

[ironpeddler]

It's a 2013 or 2014, it's a 5.0 twin turbo or a bored out 5.4 with a tvs on top, nobody knows. I've heard so many different things.

In all reality though the I doubt the 2014 will look like that, basically what is has looked like since 2010. Hopefully 2014 will be huge exterior change, along with other things.

[Blue Maro Demon]

I heard people that like Mustangs tell me that the twin turbo Shelby is out of the question now and that they are using a new setup like only using a 5.0 engine or a 5.4l.

[ffrcobra_65]

just wait.

[8cd03gro]

Originally Posted by Blue Maro Demon

I heard people that like Mustangs tell me that the twin turbo Shelby is out of the question now and that they are using a new setup like only using a 5.0 engine or a 5.4l.

Who in the world told you that? IMO Ford will bring some new gadgetry of their own to the table. From the 5.0 to the boss release, it's painfully obvious that Ford doesn't like being second place. As long as they bring some good stuff, it's great for bowtie and ford fans alike. Like I said before, the two cars are going to flat out rule the streets.

[CamaroFreako]

GT500

[lil_chef]

who is putting wider/stickier tires on their car, GM or Ford?

[4thGen427CI]

Dodge just seems to keep getting put further and further back with this war between GM and Ford... rumored 600hp from the 2012 GT500 and over 550 from ZL1... Then if ford fans really want more from the factory they get the 612 rwhp snake. Where did Dodge go? All I've seen new out of them since the challenger was entered was upgrade to a 392, although a nice addition in power and torque. That car is still too heavy to keep up with the GT and SS. What's Dodge's answer to the ZL1 and GT500? Thats my question, I'm seriously doubting a V10 challenger... But I heard of an SRT10 that once surface the net and then was sunk back in the water. Any ideas?

[syr74]

Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

I didn't hear any blower whine. . . looks pretty tight in the corners. One thing's for sure, this and zl1 are going to be two nasty mothers.

Listen at about the 35 to 36 second mark prior to braking for the corner, you can hear blower whine for a moment.

[Blue Maro Demon]

Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

Who in the world told you that? IMO Ford will bring some new gadgetry of their own to the table. From the 5.0 to the boss release, it's painfully obvious that Ford doesn't like being second place. As long as they bring some good stuff, it's great for bowtie and ford fans alike. Like I said before, the two cars are going to flat out rule the streets.

A Ford guy that I work with that owns a Fox Body 5.0 Mustang. Thats what he said anyway.

[thePill]

I was there, the local club was notified on Tuesday that the cars were there. I went up on Wednesday and Thursday. It was pretty cool..

There were club members running watches and these things were very, very fast...

Here are my post on two other sites a couple days after, pretty cool to be involved in something like this...

http://www.teamshelby.com/forums/ind...gopid__1168383

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f...rgring-103635/

[a_Username]

Originally Posted by thePill

I was there, the local club was notified on Tuesday that the cars were there. I went up on Wednesday and Thursday. It was pretty cool..

There were club members running watches and these things were very, very fast...

Here are my post on two other sites a couple days after, pretty cool to be involved in something like this...

http://www.teamshelby.com/forums/ind...gopid__1168383

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f...rgring-103635/

Well... would you mind telling us what the watches said?

[08-G35s/6MT]

This car would beat both. (This guy isn't really what it says in the title, I thought it wasn an act)


or this

[thePill]

Originally Posted by a_Username

Well... would you mind telling us what the watches said?

I can't talk about that stuff on here, that’s why I put up the other site links. It doesn't really matter anyway; these GT500's were running equipment that absolutely will not be offered on the stock versions. Regardless, the live rear axle did very well at Nurburgring and it seems the team was very pleased.

[newmoon]

Originally Posted by thePill

I was there, the local club was notified on Tuesday that the cars were there. I went up on Wednesday and Thursday. It was pretty cool..

There were club members running watches and these things were very, very fast...

Here are my post on two other sites a couple days after, pretty cool to be involved in something like this...

http://www.teamshelby.com/forums/ind...gopid__1168383

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f...rgring-103635/

Intersting reading for sure, thanks for the post links. While the times are extremely impressive if they come to be I still don't think that is what the general public wants. Give me a good handling car and make it a stop light terror. I watched a motortrend video over the weekend where they paired stock CTS-V and a GT500 in the 1/4, the CTS-V won. IMO the bragging rights will go to the car that is running the best 1/4 purely stock. Ford and Chevy should be putting more $$$ into getting these cars to launch without hop and spin use the hp they already have instead of worrying about lap times that 1 out of every 100 owners may actually use.

[big hammer]

yes, the zl1 will crush the current gt500. gm isn't going to release this car only to be beat by the status quo. however what is coming up from ford is anybodys guess.

[thePill]

Originally Posted by newmoon

Intersting reading for sure, thanks for the post links. While the times are extremely impressive if they come to be I still don't think that is what the general public wants. Give me a good handling car and make it a stop light terror. I watched a motortrend video over the weekend where they paired stock CTS-V and a GT500 in the 1/4, the CTS-V won. IMO the bragging rights will go to the car that is running the best 1/4 purely stock. Ford and Chevy should be putting more $$$ into getting these cars to launch without hop and spin use the hp they already have instead of worrying about lap times that 1 out of every 100 owners may actually use.

I agree, the majority of onlookers will be more concerned with 1/4 mile times over all other aspects of performance. In my opinion, the 6L90 equipped ZL1 will be the faster of the two even though the auto can't use 3.73s. The 6L90's 1st gear ratio is 4.03 compared to the MG9's 2.66 so expect some good ol 3.23 or lower. I remember the video from R&T where the CTS-V beat the GT500, I paid special attention to the trap speeds and could easily tell the GT500 produces horrible 60 foot times. It was auto vs. manual and seeing that the cars were pretty evenly matched, I would never put my paycheck on the manual. It will take a pretty talented driver to operate the '13 GT500, even with the new suspension, launch control and possibly new tires. Your not going to win any races doing a 120 foot burnout... however, it is possible to make that lost time up as you can see the previous GT500's do with high trap speeds.

This GT500 was using two piece drilled (and maybe slotted too) rotors as one of the reports said, who knows what else was done to the cars. I can say that it sounds like a supercharger now that I have seen the video and the larger cooling system will weigh more than last year. I hope that means they are using a Coyote and could afford an extra 30-40lbs. We should see some info on the wheel/tire setup much later in the game.

I heard quite a bit of speculation while I was up there, I researched everything that was said... Pretty cool being there, I felt like a kid again...