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Old 06-23-2011, 03:15 PM   #29
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That is not how they price the 2lt from the 2SS. There is an 8 grand difference and the only difference is engine and tranny.
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Old 06-23-2011, 04:01 PM   #30
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There is more to it than the engine and tranny. Don't forget the springs, shocks, brake pads, calipers, wheels, tires, gearbox, exhaust.....
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Old 06-23-2011, 04:24 PM   #31
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That is not how they price the 2lt from the 2SS. There is an 8 grand difference and the only difference is engine and tranny.
You need to do a little homework.
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Old 06-23-2011, 04:31 PM   #32
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I'm not supporting the idea of an economy Z28, I'm just saying that if we are reliving the old days (70's) with high gas prices and now a bad economy, GM might pull something like this off. I am not hoping so by any means. I prefer the economy to shape up and today's muscle cars to keep improving, including bigger motors with bigger power. We'll just have to see.
Don't worry it won't happen.
As for bigger engines probably not. More powerful probably yes.
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Old 06-23-2011, 04:52 PM   #33
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It adds 15 grand to a car that doesn't already have an engine. There is already around $7000 worth of LS3 (or L99) under the hood of the SS.
Gawd, Gibby, NOW yer gittin' with the PROGRAM!

Fact is, from GM PP, the crate-engine difference is about $7,000...with faaaar more profit made when they ring up an LS7 than an LS3...

Seriously, with deference to Number 3, if Ford can sell out 4000 BOSS ponies at low-mid-$40s, I suspect GM can sell MORE LS7-engined, option-careful, non-MR, ZL1-enhanced driveline'd/wheel'd/tire'd/brake'd thoroughbreds...for about the same dough...and SMILE all the way to the BANK!

Mike, your 1000-unit number would be the number of deposits, Day 1, for orders of our "favorite" Camaro...
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Old 06-23-2011, 05:23 PM   #34
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You need to look into the Vette offerings and Camaro heritage to get 5th gen Z28 DNA. You also need to look at the SSX. I would guess there will be a 5th gen Z28 by 2013. I would guess it will get the Grand Sport dry sump LS3 and possibly mag suspension. ZL1 brakes and exhuast too. But as stated before we "know" nothing.
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Old 06-23-2011, 05:45 PM   #35
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We know there will no announcements related to our beloved Z/28 until the ZL1 is being produced and more likely in dealer showrooms. If it is to be, I believe we can bank on that.
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Old 06-23-2011, 06:58 PM   #36
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Gawd, Gibby, NOW yer gittin' with the PROGRAM!
I've been a fan of a lighter, LS7 powered Camaro for a looooong time. I think the first time I mentioned it was in the fall of 2008.

BTW, seeing as I hardly give out my first name on this site & use my last name even less ... how the f*&% did you know that it nicknames to 'Gibby'?
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NEWSFLASH:

Dateline Germany...

You'll recall, recently, the LS9-powered Corvette ZR1 setting a blistering time of 7:19 @ the 'Ring. Well, folks, they just ran the LS7-powered Z06, and it ran...are ready for it?

7:22!!

LS7...content (weight)-restricted Camaro...ZL1 driveline/brakes/wheels/tires...throw away the sump tank...and the MR...enhanced FE4...3800 lbs or so...

Warm 'n fuzzy, yet?!
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NEWSFLASH:

Dateline Germany...

You'll recall, recently, the LS9-powered Corvette ZR1 setting a blistering time of 7:19 @ the 'Ring. Well, folks, they just ran the LS7-powered Z06, and it ran...are ready for it?

7:22!!

LS7...content (weight)-restricted Camaro...ZL1 driveline/brakes/wheels/tires...throw away the sump tank...and the MR...enhanced FE4...3800 lbs or so...

Warm 'n fuzzy, yet?!
:03 seconds yet 134 less HP. That's what I'm talkin' 'bout!

C'mon give us a Z28
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I been talking this over with friends and we came to the conclusion that the new Z28 will be the design of the 2009 SEMA Jay Leno twin turbo V6.

It the only logical outcome because it is the only way that GM can outdo the 302 Boss Mustang; since the Mustang is lighter by 300 pounds or some where around that to begin with. Add to this a high power but fuel economic engine that is lightweight but with the ZL1 suspension added; the Z28 will beat out the Current 302.
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There is more to it than the engine and tranny. Don't forget the springs, shocks, brake pads, calipers, wheels, tires, gearbox, exhaust.....
All of those components are comparable in price from the 2lt and the 2SS. I have done my homework, thanks anyway
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I been talking this over with friends and we came to the conclusion that the new Z28 will be the design of the 2009 SEMA Jay Leno twin turbo V6.

It the only logical outcome because it is the only way that GM can outdo the 302 Boss Mustang; since the Mustang is lighter by 300 pounds or some where around that to begin with. Add to this a high power but fuel economic engine that is lightweight but with the ZL1 suspension added; the Z28 will beat out the Current 302.
One slight problem with that: a turbocharged V6 is almost certainly going to be heavier than a naturally aspirated small block.
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