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Old 04-03-2011, 10:57 PM   #1
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Whipple IAT Relocation

Hey all, any advice on this? Is it worth doing. I noticed it at this link:
http://www.gettorq.com/store/index.p...ercharger.html

Are other companies selling this? Thanks all.
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Old 04-04-2011, 05:41 AM   #2
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Looks like that option isn`t available yet. It is a good idea to be able to read the charge after the intercooler, but at our power level and the size of the intercooler, we should be fine. I don`t know of any Whippled cars blown up "yet"..
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Old 04-04-2011, 06:51 AM   #3
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Hey all, any advice on this? Is it worth doing. I noticed it at this link:
http://www.gettorq.com/store/index.p...ercharger.html

Are other companies selling this? Thanks all.
Yes, my Whipple was installed by Livernois and the IAT relocation really wasn't presented as an option, it was a requirement for a street car. I was told that all of the IAT sensors were relocated on their Whipple installs.

The way I see it, in the event that something went wrong with the cooling system, having the engine "see" a spike in the IAT would allow the car to pull timing and start dumping fuel in an attempt to save itself. Considering the cost of the blower and the cost of moving the sensor, it made a lot of sense to me.

That being said, I took a 2 hour trip this weekend with a mix of highway and stoplight to stoplight driving and when I stopped I popped the hood and felt the supercharger.... it was not even what I would consider warm.
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Old 04-04-2011, 07:42 AM   #4
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Installed the Relo-Kit from
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Reguired some 'small' mod to the bottom of left side fuel rail...ground off very slight mount...cannot see it after install.
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Old 04-04-2011, 09:56 AM   #5
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Old 04-04-2011, 10:28 AM   #6
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Old 04-04-2011, 11:19 AM   #7
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Huh, did they drill into the valley cover or the side of the whipple to mount that?
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Old 04-04-2011, 11:36 AM   #8
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Below is the picture of the modification that we did to relocate the IAT:



You can see it in the rear portion of the manifold. This is exactly the same thing we do on ALL whipple installs we perform regardless of make/model. Really, its the only safe way to do it.
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Old 04-04-2011, 11:47 AM   #9
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Below is the picture of the modification that we did to relocate the IAT:



You can see it in the rear portion of the manifold. This is exactly the same thing we do on ALL whipple installs we perform regardless of make/model. Really, its the only safe way to do it.
Has whipple updated there kits yet for this? If not do you sell the IAT relocatation as a kit with instructions? PM me with price please.
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Old 04-04-2011, 03:45 PM   #10
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Soooo, very lazy question here. I'm guessing I'd have to remove the supercharger to complete this mod huh? I still have nightmares about tightening some of those bolts.... Also interested in the price/instructions. My tuner mentioned this when he first tuned the car. He pulled some of the timing to be safe but mentioned I'm leaving safe power on the table because of it.
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Old 04-04-2011, 04:24 PM   #11
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No drilling..Whipple has a drilled place for it.

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Huh, did they drill into the valley cover or the side of the whipple to mount that?
Whipple has a drilled/plugged place for it.

Mine works perfectly....but was done at same time we installed the SC
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Old 04-04-2011, 06:03 PM   #12
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I fitted my Whipple SC a couple of weekends ago. It came with the IAT fitted in the back of the supercharger with an extension lead to connect it to the two wires that are removed from the MAF plug.
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Whipple has a relocation kit now, I'm thinking about getting it, I wanted to instal a meth kit and wanted to have a true manifold reading. Also the new whipples for the camaro are now using a post blower iat sensor
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this is the relocation AIT sensor for the older whipple systems, as one can see its right underneath the discharged air. cant wait to see discharge temps in this location. my main reason for having this done is to see what a water/meth kit would do to help lower manifold temps,
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Old 04-05-2011, 07:31 AM   #16
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Hey Caliman who did you order that from? I don't remember seeing a plug in that location but could have missed it, I was drunk for most of the install and the lorax kept distracting me...
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So the lower manifold has a hole that is already threaded or do you have to take the blower off the manifold to install the IAT? If you don`t have to take off the blower where is the threaded hole located exactly, Driver side, pass side or rear of manifold?
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Driver side 3rd injector back right under the fuel rail
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We place our kit where we do for ease of installation and clearance between the firewall and blower. We have also tried it in the back of the lower manifold and have seen no difference in readings. You do have to modify the fuel rail though

Our kit is also easy to install, or un-install if someone would ever want to do so. I would not be so comfortable with the Whipple kit above as the sensor element could break/off and get into the engine.

We sell these with or without our blower kits and will be value adding it to those who buy the blower directly from us
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Driver side 3rd injector back right under the fuel rail

Thanks for the info. So is the port in the manifold threaded already so you don`t have to remove the blower to install, or does the blower have to come off?
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Hey Caliman who did you order that from? I don't remember seeing a plug in that location but could have missed it, I was drunk for most of the install and the lorax kept distracting me...
I have not order the relocation sensor, but whipple is offering it, there should be a screw in th drivers side I'm guessing thas it,
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Thanks for the info. So is the port in the manifold threaded already so you don`t have to remove the blower to install, or does the blower have to come off?
You will have to remove the rail for clearancing but we do it before the manifold even goes on the car. Your blower should have never been installed with the IAT in the MAF anyway (if it was)
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You will have to remove the rail for clearancing but we do it before the manifold even goes on the car. Your blower should have never been installed with the IAT in the MAF anyway (if it was)
First I would like to agree w/ you that the best way to handle IAT is post intercooler, its the only true reading.

Whipple sold the kits and tuning set up for the IAT in the MAF atthe time and it runs great. Tune is super conservative. Whipple assured me w/ the stock pulley at that boost level it would be fine w/ their tune. It has been flawless w/ trips to the track and driving around. There are knock sensors if things get too hot w/ too much timing. However just to be safe we removed 2 degree`s of timing from the Whipple tune, added a touch more fuel just to be safe and still made 536rwhp on a stock internal L99. Am I leaving power on the table w/ out having the IAT relocated? Yes, I could push the timing a little more and make more power.
I`m happy where its at now though running 10.99@ 125.4. Since that trip to the track I have added 3:70 gears, lightweight wheels, 18 inch nt05drag radials, ported TB and will probably add a small stall converter later in the fall. 10.7 is the goal pre converter and 10.5 after the converter is the goal stock internal L99 on pump gas. Now if I decide to add a cam next year, up the boost, run meth or whatever that really screws w/ Whipple`s setup, I will definetly install the IAT relocator.
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I was kinda disappointed that the whipple kit did not came with the iat in the manifold but was ok with it because the discharge temps where good and was keeping my setup stock, now however I'm wanting to add more mods and would definitely need to be monitoring the temps in the manifold, even if one does not add more mods we should think about getting this updated for safety reasons.
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I was kinda disappointed that the whipple kit did not came with the iat in the manifold but was ok with it because the discharge temps where good and was keeping my setup stock, now however I'm wanting to add more mods and would definitely need to be monitoring the temps in the manifold, even if one does not add more mods we should think about getting this updated for safety reasons.

That was my feelings exactly. I was very suprised at that, also keeping the 1 bar map as well. Those were the only 2 things IAT relocate and still using the 1 bar map that had me scratching my head.
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