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Old 01-03-2007, 02:13 PM   #1
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*Great News Camaro Due Out 2007*

This last month i got a phone call from my trustworthy Chevy dealer and they told me that representatives came from GM letting them know the lineup coming ou and how they were pushing cars out earlier than expected b/c we all know GM is in trouble especially Chevy, so the representatives let them in on a big secret Chevy is releasing the Camaro either the Second or (more likely) the Third Quarter of this year year! So the Camaro will be on the showoom floor either late Spring or Early-Mid Summer as a 2008 model. I just put a deposit down on it and I'm guaranteed the first V8 of my choice either the Z28 or SS depending on release! Just thought you all would like to know so our war with Mustang and soon Challenger is much closer than you think so start preparing!!!!
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Well, that would be GREAT news, if it's true.

Here's a Q&A w/ Scott regarding the sale date;
Q. How set in stone is the Spring 2009 sale date? In other words, is there any chance that speedy progress could give us a Fall 2008 debut?


A. Nothing is ever set in stone. Let me say upfront that we would like the car on the street tomorrow, but that isn't practical. We need it for many reasons, one of which is that YOU want it! (..another is I WANT IT!)

It's important to understand that the new Camaro comes from a completely fresh sheet of paper, unlike others who will modify an existing architecture to build their entry. [meaning the Challenger] (and their entry is huge, I mean HUGE. Take a look at it next to the early 70s version.....it's larger than our Monte Carlo! That isn't a bad thing if you're looking for a big boulevard cruiser with a large back seat, perhaps. But I digress! If the Camaro could be moved forward, it will be. But we won't bring it to the public until it's RIGHT. This is a hallowed nameplate to some, and it's important that we make a Camaro that we ALL can be proud of.

Now, let's do some math here: We announced that the car will go into production in the 4th quarter of 2008 (that would mean Sept/December of 2008) and be in showrooms for you to purchase in the first quarter of 2009 (that would be January/March 2009).

Today is August 17. In less than 15 days, we'll be in the 4th quarter of 2006. Now, lemme get my abacus out here and check something............hmmmmm...........YUP! That's two years from now! Not bad for a clean sheet of paper approach!


I'm going to see what I can find out.
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I sure hope your source is right. I'd love to see it out that early. But realistically, they haven't even got the production version set yet. Those are still being investigate and tested. Not too mention, getting the factory ready in Oshawa to build the Camaro will take a minimum of six months (that's if there are no snags or hiccups in retrofitting the plant), but probably longer.

The car will be out sooner than expected. But probably closer to the summer of 2008. I sure hope though that you are right about this year. 2008 is when I'll be ready to buy and with it coming out a little earlier will give them a chance to work out some of the first year bugs.
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well im almost positive, because the representatives said that they already had them on the plant ready for production in austrailia, they said they secretly were doing this as a test to see how production would run, and due to the huge drop in sales they need a car to save them and this one they know will, they wil sell all that they make they know it, b/c if ford could sell that crap called the mustang which is retro and cool if u like plain, grandfather s***, thay can sell them all with its much nicer, sleeker, and more respectible styling, plus the return of the camaro has been the biggest news in the autoworld since i cant even remembre when, so i think they knew all along what they were doing and left options open that if they needed the car out quick they could do it, b/c think about it the demeand is outrageous from the public for this car, and to wait that long would be stupid b/c by then another mustang is already ut and retro styling may be gone the challenger will already be out and chevy will have lost so much market to ford and dodge, if they do this now they will gain their fanbase back in the teen range where those kids go buy mustangs now b/c there is nothing like it out, i mean my brother a chevy loyalist had to resort to buying a mustang b/c there was no camaro, i drive a corvette now and am a preffered customer at my dealership in which my family hasd been dealing with them for at least thirty years and they wouldnt tell me my car would be coming soon and to prepare financially for it if they werent sure, it all adds up so lets prepare for the pony wars round 2, except in this war will only have one pony in it, and thats the very lame mustang, b/c this camaro with a vette motor in the Z28 and the ls7 or maybe their secret ls9 in the SS will blow any puss stang off the track and will out handle or ride it, with its independent rear oppossed to live rear axel, on the road, so gear up b/c the war is coming and it is almost certain that the bow-tie will trample the blue oval like so many times in the past!!!!
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Hey, if that's something your dealer wants to believe, then cool. No disrespect to you, my friend. I don't believe it one bit. They can't release it as an 08 model. This has been said already due to the old contracts...(unless someone waived a magic wand and bought out the existing contract that the St. Therese plant had). I do not find that happening. GM keeps secrets for a reason. They have tons of work to do on the plant and it was only announced where it would be built in Nov. Then, it's going to take months to get it ready and out. I don't think there's a chance of them getting it out by summer. I could be way off...but don't think it would happen. It would be right in line w/ the release of the transformers movie, though. Too many things going on for it to come out so quickly.
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I hope it is out in '07. My guess is that the dealer/salesman just wanted the deposit for a future sale. Just my $.02.
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mid 08. by every mathimatical equation you can come up with. . .that's the soonest it will come out.
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well no disrespect to any of u but before any of u normal consumers knew of a new corvette i knew a year early my chevy dealer is a friend of my family and they due high volume more than probably any dealer u know and no disrespect to you but what u said about them not being able to bring it out as a '07 or '08 model this year, gm can due what they want the '07 tahoe came out january 2nd of '06 as a 2007 model and the c5 whgen it came out was orignally slated to be a 98 vetter but came out as a early year 97 so honestly gm can dso wat they want and i was there with the gm representatives wen they came the second time when i went for a deposit, they told my dealer in front of me that the only thing left was to give the dealers their pricing which is due soon plus im an insider too gm i have family and good friends that are in high places for gm so i respect that u think my dealer was blowing smoke up my ass but my friends wouldnt do that and this isnt true than the general lied to my face through his people, but thanks for your enthusiast key word enthusiast opinion
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well no disrespect to any of u but before any of u normal consumers knew of a new corvette i knew a year early my chevy dealer is a friend of my family and they due high volume more than probably any dealer u know and no disrespect to you but what u said about them not being able to bring it out as a '07 or '08 model this year, gm can due what they want the '07 tahoe came out january 2nd of '06 as a 2007 model and the c5 whgen it came out was orignally slated to be a 98 vetter but came out as a early year 97 so honestly gm can dso wat they want and i was there with the gm representatives wen they came the second time when i went for a deposit, they told my dealer in front of me that the only thing left was to give the dealers their pricing which is due soon plus im an insider too gm i have family and good friends that are in high places for gm so i respect that u think my dealer was blowing smoke up my ass but my friends wouldnt do that and this isnt true than the general lied to my face through his people, but thanks for your enthusiast key word enthusiast opinion

Well if it turns out, POST THE PRICE!!
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With all due respect 'CoolestCamaro873', please remain a member of this forum and let us know what happens come late Spring, early-mid Summer.

I really am NOT trying to instigate or offend you.

We'll see...
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I really am NOT trying to instigate or offend you.

We'll see...
Yes! Please do!

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I'm just so glad gm has learned how to keep secrets like the goverment. I mean seriously to build something to production quality and get a factory together and have that many people involved and no one really talk about it is quite hard. look at all the black projects the goverment has done. if anyone can keep a secret it's them. way to go gm up stage the goverment. no disrespect really but until I see it in my driveway I won't believe it.
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I hate to be "That Guy" but I would probably put slightly more stock into the claims being made if the posts in question were done with proper spelling, grammar and sentence structure. I could probably even do without paragraphs.

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But here's to castles in the sky!


I noticed that as well, but I "chalked it up" to our friend's excitement.

I hope for his sake he isn't too disappointed.
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honestly you guys are so unprofessional about this forum this forum is here for news that we hear and like to share, i was happy to share my news and most of you called it bullshit, well you can think what you want, and you can say how i have no grammar, but for the most part you guys have no class by trying to insult me than make light of it and say you werent in a sarcastic manner, and to the few who were cool about me givin info thank you and to those who were apologizing sincerely than thank you also, im truly upset that you guys feel this way about my news but keep this in mind, this is something i wrote on another forum and all the info is from brand new magazines: "i know i was skeptical too but if u read the new motor trend their is an article in the front about how they already produced camaros in austrailia and they would be on the road by x-mas, but too my surprise, their being tested and are being prepared to mass produce, from what my guy said, and i originally thoguht it meant x-mas of '07 they would be driving in australia b/c the issue is feb. 07 but at the bottom of the article it says the article was written in october november of '06, so it looks like they are pulling a fast one on us and they are gonna surprise the world with this one and it makes sense, b/c y would they tell everyone right now they are gonna, b/c then companies will steal their ideas and try to take away from sales if chevy pulls a sneek attack ford and dodge wont know what hit them and they wont be able to counter and chevy will have won with this beauty"

so i hope you guys have fun on the post i started and have fun mocking me and what not, but the last laugh will go to the guy who cant spell, b/c regardless of when the camaro comes out, just so we dont fight about when again, i know i'll be sitting in one probably before the rest of you, at the track smoking mustangs, while you guys are reading the test in the magazines, and im sorry if im coming off as an a** but i was so excited to come to this forum because like you ive been a chevy and mostly camaro enthusiast just like you my whole life, my dad's first car was a '79 Z28, my first car was a '02 'Z28, and now i will proudly drive the beast again, so if i stick around than whatever hope to talk to you again, if not, than i wish you all luck in getting a camaro someday b/c they are the most amazing cars ever, theres nothing like driving a camaro with a mustang in your rear-window and a cop in his!
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I apologize...what you mistook for a personal "jab" was just a humorous comment on my part, with NO offense intended.
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honestly you guys are so unprofessional about this forum this forum is here for news that we hear and like to share, i was happy to share my news and most of you called it bullshit, well you can think what you want, and you can say how i have no grammar, but for the most part you guys have no class by trying to insult me than make light of it and say you werent in a sarcastic manner, and to the few who were cool about me givin info thank you and to those who were apologizing sincerely than thank you also, im truly upset that you guys feel this way about my news but keep this in mind, this is something i wrote on another forum and all the info is from brand new magazines: "i know i was skeptical too but if u read the new motor trend their is an article in the front about how they already produced camaros in austrailia and they would be on the road by x-mas, but too my surprise, their being tested and are being prepared to mass produce, from what my guy said, and i originally thoguht it meant x-mas of '07 they would be driving in australia b/c the issue is feb. 07 but at the bottom of the article it says the article was written in october november of '06, so it looks like they are pulling a fast one on us and they are gonna surprise the world with this one and it makes sense, b/c y would they tell everyone right now they are gonna, b/c then companies will steal their ideas and try to take away from sales if chevy pulls a sneek attack ford and dodge wont know what hit them and they wont be able to counter and chevy will have won with this beauty"

so i hope you guys have fun on the post i started and have fun mocking me and what not, but the last laugh will go to the guy who cant spell, b/c regardless of when the camaro comes out, just so we dont fight about when again, i know i'll be sitting in one probably before the rest of you, at the track smoking mustangs, while you guys are reading the test in the magazines, and im sorry if im coming off as an a** but i was so excited to come to this forum because like you ive been a chevy and mostly camaro enthusiast just like you my whole life, my dad's first car was a '79 Z28, my first car was a '02 'Z28, and now i will proudly drive the beast again, so if i stick around than whatever hope to talk to you again, if not, than i wish you all luck in getting a camaro someday b/c they are the most amazing cars ever, theres nothing like driving a camaro with a mustang in your rear-window and a cop in his!
IMO your use of one letter abbreviations is for instant messaging and text messaging, not forums. It comes across as childish. It is very hard to take anything seriously when it is posted like that.

Also, basic punctuation makes any post MUCH easier to read and will be taken MUCH more seriously.

I have learned to take any news on projects like this from any automotive publication with a grain of salt. A classic example is the recent Corvette SS article scam that was uncovered. With the connections people have on forums like this one, I expect to hear any real news here before the BS auto rags get it to print

From personal experience, 99% of what dealership salesmen tell you about things like this is either an outright lie or they are mis-informed. Just basing this on years of personal dealership experience

I'm sure many of us were being sarcastic above, maybe learn to take these things in stride and not get to bent out of shape about it - you are right, we are all here for the same reason when it comes down to it
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IMO your use of one letter abbreviations is for instant messaging and text messaging, not forums. It comes across as childish. It is very hard to take anything seriously when it is posted like that.

Also, basic punctuation makes any post MUCH easier to read and will be taken MUCH more seriously.

I have learned to take any news on projects like this from any automotive publication with a grain of salt. A classic example is the recent Corvette SS article scam that was uncovered. With the connections people have on forums like this one, I expect to hear any real news here before the BS auto rags get it to print

From personal experience, 99% of what dealership salesmen tell you about things like this is either an outright lie or they are mis-informed. Just basing this on years of personal dealership experience

I'm sure many of us were being sarcastic above, maybe learn to take these things in stride and not get to bent out of shape about it - you are right, we are all here for the same reason when it comes down to it
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honestly you guys are so unprofessional about this forum this forum is here for news that we hear and like to share, i was happy to share my news and most of you called it bullshit, well you can think what you want, and you can say how i have no grammar, but for the most part you guys have no class by trying to insult me than make light of it and say you werent in a sarcastic manner,
Tu Che.... I know a lot of people on this and other forums (Myself included) have a hard time accepting any information like this, but it is just because we don't want to get our hopes up and then smashed. It is like your first high school crush.

People around here are given a lot of information from very very reliable sources, and when anything contradicts that information it creates skepticism unless that source trumps the initials SS. And to be honest, information from dealers is not very reliable regardless of who it came from. People at the dealer level are simply not privy to that kind of info.

Other than the blantant insults about your grammar (which I will agree, should be toned down) I am sure none of it was personal.

Thanks for the attempt to share information with us and here's hoping you stick around to talk more about the Camaro
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well thanks casull, you are probably the most respectful of this forum, and moose thanks for apologizing i didnt mean to come off as an a** itso just i just was trying to give good news and you guys are just to skeptical for it, which is fine i understand you guys dont want your hopes up than smashed, anyways i guess your okay too overanxious, a little too sarcastic for my taste but you do bring up a great point that i made we are all here for the same reason, anyways long live the camaro
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I'm less concerned about the exact release date than I am that they build a good quality car. GM has to get the Camaro right, first and foremost. If you research the Mustang, you'll find that they have numerous build quality issues (groaning noises from Rear end, faulty Shaker stereos, sub standard interior fit and finish, etc.) and numerous TSBs. GM needs to make this one of their best vehicles in order to grab as much market share as possible. If they rush it out the door too soon, it is bound to have some big mechanical issues. Let them thoroughly test it and get it right and not make the mistakes they've made in the past with other cars. They have to set themselves apart from Ford and Chrysler by building a solid, well built, iconic car. This is their chance to redeem themselves in a big way. If they blow it with this car, they won't get another chance to revive the company. Alot rides on this Camaro. If it comes out in '08-'09, so be it. As long as they take their time and build a great car.
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i agree my brother bought a mustang and it is s*** it has a bad differential, torque converter, and numerous other problems from the factory, plus no matter how long they took to design the mustang it is still a ford, so it would be crap no matter what, but the camaro has been in the works for years, dont let gm fool you, there have been numerous reports that the camaro plans have been in the works since 2003 a year after it was discontinued, they realized they needed that market back, plus the zeta platform they've had testing for two years but the finally got it right last year which is why the '08 pontiacs will be on them so chevy really has already done their homework they really just need to do the fit and finishing of the car and just build a lot of them, i mean i know everyone has opinions of when they come out and i have my own *skeptical version, in which GM's head of sales representative told me last night what to expect, but i will not pist it because he asked me not to tell anyone and i respect him enough, and he is not a dealer i know him from when i was at the dealer but i was given his number due to the fact that i work in the automotive business and have family on the inside of GM, and the camaro will not dissapoint and it will be out quicker than everyone thinks, ill just leave it at that
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