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Old 03-16-2009, 07:18 PM   #1
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Undercoating and Paint Sealant

Even though I will not see my camaro for about 2 months I was wondering what the opinions undercoating and paint sealers where.

I know the dealer is going to try and upsell me on these, but I am wondering what the value of it would be on this car.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 03-16-2009, 07:27 PM   #2
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Old 03-16-2009, 07:28 PM   #3
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ya, thats what i was thinkin too....dealer scam bullsh*t
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Old 03-16-2009, 07:42 PM   #4
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Undercoating doesn't exist. Wax is a paint sealant.
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Old 03-16-2009, 07:43 PM   #5
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Undercoating doesn't exist. Wax is a paint sealant.
The floor is going to be double-sided galvanized steel so it won't really need it and on the wax.
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Old 03-16-2009, 07:49 PM   #6
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The old days of "rustproofing" (undercoating, sealant, rust inhibitor, etc) are done. It used to be a good idea to get the greasy, gooey, yucky, smelly, oily black gunk sprayed under the chasis, in the door seam welds, in the engine bay, and under the hood (mainly where there were weld points exposed to the elements, especially if you live in the snow belt and salty streets are common in winter).

But with galvanized steel, unit body construction, and far superior welding and assembly processes in cars today, it is not needed. In the old days, cars up here in Cleveland would start rusting before they were 5 years old. Today, I see 10 year old cars without rust. When my Mom sold her 1998 LeSabre in 2007 with 120,000 miles on it, there was not a speck of rust. And it was not rust proofed.
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Awesome, thanks for all the information.
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Old 03-16-2009, 07:53 PM   #8
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Even though I will not see my camaro for about 2 months I was wondering what the opinions undercoating and paint sealers where.

I know the dealer is going to try and upsell me on these, but I am wondering what the value of it would be on this car.

Thanks in advance.
Dont buy it, no one has needed that stuff since the 80's.
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Old 03-16-2009, 08:39 PM   #9
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Old 03-16-2009, 09:23 PM   #10
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I use hammerite rust cap. Can put it on later.. like way later 10-15 years. You won't see rust for 20 years unless you hit the salt a lot.

The hammerite is crushed glass in a resin. Only really would do that if you plan on keeping the car forever. Which I would recommend people plan for since all this future restrictions etc.

I also have used Por 15 but I don't like it anymore. It only seems to last a couple years and needs lot of surface prep. I have done hammerite and then Por 15 on top of that on trouble spots.

http://www.masterchem.com/pages/default.aspx?NavID=42

Btw I have seen people use the colored versions and black on suspension parts and it comes out sharp.

They have a metallic like finish in blue, red, green etc.

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http://www.por15.com/

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