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Old 07-04-2011, 11:16 AM   #1
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18" wheels on ZL1

I wonder if 18 inch wheels will clear the calipers and rotors for drag racing setup?
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I wonder if 18 inch wheels will clear the calipers and rotors for drag racing setup?
Wait and see , or yes it will, you just have to take those huge brakes out , yeah that will do it
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Yeah I think the brakes on the zl1 are overkill. On battle of the supercars tv show fastlanes 1000rwhp camaro ss with stock brembos out braked the 1000 rwhp shelby with huge rotor and caliper upgrade. I may have to put a set of ss brakes on my zl1 for drag racing.
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Yeah I think the brakes on the zl1 are overkill. On battle of the supercars tv show fastlanes 1000rwhp camaro ss with stock brembos out braked the 1000 rwhp shelby with huge rotor and caliper upgrade. I may have to put a set of ss brakes on my zl1 for drag racing.
It's not overkill, when your on the track braking lap after lap then you need strong fade resistant brakes. If your just into drag racing then yea it's not really that important.
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Your money, but why would you take a 50k+ car and turn it into just a 1/4 mile car? 1ss would be a much cheaper place to start.
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My 1ss was $32505 sticker plus forged internals whipple sc tranny and rearend upgrade shops like livernois and lingenfelter are telling me $40k-45k so thats $72-77k for a dependable 600-800rwhp car. So if I can pulley cam heads headers intake and tune my zl1 for $12,000 that puts me at $62-67k thats a 10k savings and I have a badass looking zl1 camaro. The zl1 should have 500rwhp so if I can add 100-150 rwhp for 12k on top of a 50k sticker save 10k and have the upgrades that the zl1 has over a 1ss then hell yeah ill put 18 in wheels/drag radial setup on it.
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I have a feeling the zl1 will be mod friendly...i dont see it costing 12k for 100-150 hp.
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Old 07-04-2011, 02:08 PM   #8
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I hope your right I was just going off of ctsv packages ive seen
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Aren't there guys aleeady running 18s? If Nineball chimes in, I'm sure he had a lead or two. Maybe just swap to V6 brakes for the track and call it good?
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you can run 17's on the Camaro rear brembo's and the cts-v rear brembos if you get the right wheel with no modifications. Assuming the ZL1 will use a similar rear brake to the cts-v I don't see why a purpose made 17 wouldn't work.
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17" C5 Z06 wheels work on my C6 Corvette. http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...ry/car0072.jpg
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Old 07-05-2011, 12:22 PM   #12
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My research turned up that you can easily get 150 extra HP by adding a cam, upgraded pulley, and porting the heads. Problem with the LSA is that when taken past 700 HP you better begin thinking about forging the internals or it wont last. Chew up the meat - spit out the bones!
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My research turned up that you can easily get 150 extra HP by adding a cam, upgraded pulley, and porting the heads. Problem with the LSA is that when taken past 700 HP you better begin thinking about forging the internals or it wont last. Chew up the meat - spit out the bones!
Yeah - they gave us a good crank, but it's not known yet if we're getting hyper' pistons and steel rods. Because we're seeing most SC'd LS3/L99 cars pushing 150+ more horse' through the stock long blocks and not having many more problems than fuel issues (using "base" SC pulleys), I think a similar safety factor would apply to LSA, and give the tests it's passed with flying colors, I'm sure even if we were given pretty much the same short block as CTS-Vs, that expecting 700 FWHP is still going to be relatively safe so long as fuel and tuning are up to snuff.

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For what it's worth I wish my gt500 had better brakes. I would not say brakes are an overkill at all. I have brembos in the front but just regular mustang gt brakes in the back. I know I can fit a 15" drag wheel in the back which I believe is the ideal size for drag racing. I don't think you want to go bigger than 17". MAybe that is why Ford but such small brakes in the back taking drag racing into consideration. But, whatever the case may be I wish i had a better brake package or at least better rears. Not sure how the brembos on the front of the gt500 compare to that of the SS or CTS-v.

When you are tracking a 4000 lb car for just a little bit and I mean just a little, you would be suprised how fast your brakes will fade.
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For what it's worth I wish my gt500 had better brakes. I would not say brakes are an overkill at all. I have brembos in the front but just regular mustang gt brakes in the back. I know I can fit a 15" drag wheel in the back which I believe is the ideal size for drag racing. I don't think you want to go bigger than 17". MAybe that is why Ford but such small brakes in the back taking drag racing into consideration. But, whatever the case may be I wish i had a better brake package or at least better rears. Not sure how the brembos on the front of the gt500 compare to that of the SS or CTS-v.

When you are tracking a 4000 lb car for just a little bit and I mean just a little, you would be suprised how fast your brakes will fade.
It almost makes a little more sense that they did it that way, so you can run 15s, but then that suggests they really only designed it to run down the strip. Like I think many people have been saying: ZL1 is an all-arounder, not a specialist, and personally - that's what I'm interested in. I don't want a car that does nothing great, however. I'm sure all my expectations will be met, and then some.
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Really??? I thought that the lsa bottom end was stronger than the ls3 bottom end. Surely the lsa will hold 700 rwhp. If not thats rediculous just more corner cutting bullshit. How much more does it cost gm to use forged over hyper?
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Back to brakes if 18 wheels will clear ill be happy. Im sure ill enjoy the brake upgrades on the zl1. I was thinking the rotors were way bigger on the zl1 over the ss. But from what ive found there both about the same size.
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Really??? I thought that the lsa bottom end was stronger than the ls3 bottom end. Surely the lsa will hold 700 rwhp. If not thats rediculous just more corner cutting bullshit. How much more does it cost gm to use forged over hyper?
SOrry - that's what I'm saying; LSA IS stronger than LS3 It's more than saving money with going hyper' over forged. Emissions and noise considerations also go into consideration, though, for this application, I think it has more to do with $$$.

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Back to brakes if 18 wheels will clear ill be happy. Im sure ill enjoy the brake upgrades on the zl1. I was thinking the rotors were way bigger on the zl1 over the ss. But from what ive found there both about the same size.
Yup. I would appear the rear brakes are about the same and we already know about the calipers, and diameter and thickness (I think I saw thickness somewhere) of ZL1. It would seem the SS rear brakes were quite up to the task at hand
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SOrry - that's what I'm saying; LSA IS stronger than LS3 It's more than saving money with going hyper' over forged. Emissions and noise considerations also go into consideration, though, for this application, I think it has more to do with $$$.

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which suggest that maybe gm is conscious of the price and is trying to keep it affordable, but i still expect to see it as a high 40 low 50's car.
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Old 07-05-2011, 10:00 PM   #21
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which suggest that maybe gm is conscious of the price and is trying to keep it affordable, ...
Of course. "Price Competitive" means just that...but they know they make a superior product and can get away with charging a premium for it...

Anyways, changing vital parts in an engine is a hugely expensive process. Those $100 pistons everyone likes to talk about cost significantly more from a manufacturer's standpoint in that they need to re-test and validate the whole engine again. At which point you're talking the millions and millions of dollars, and a lot of time.

Pretending we're qualified engineers: the other option would have been to pop the LS7 in there...but now we're down significantly on power compared to the competition, and there's still those pesky hypereutectic pistons that caused us to look this direction anyways. So...solution would be the LS9...which leaves us with an almost $10,000 premium over the LSA...ouch.

But I definitely got off topic, and I apologize.

18s on ZL1......> GO!

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