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Old 03-16-2009, 08:23 PM   #1
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Brakes

The braking distance 60-0 is listed as 125 feet. That's not bad, but not great either. In fact it was the only spec I wasn't blown away by today. Do you think that's a good figure, or possibly erring on the side of conservative? Luckily, with only one mildly disappointing stat, it shouldn't be too hard to focus any upgrades on the brakes and bring those distances down a notch.
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if it's a huge issue for you, swapping the SS brakes (along with wheels that will fit them) onto the V6 or the CTS-V brakes onto the SS should be no problem
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Not a huge issue, and frankly not too surprising. It seems to me GM tends to favor longer brake life over ultimate stopping power, which is good for the average consumer. After I wear the first set of pads down maybe I'll replace them with something a tad more aggressive. No big deal at all.
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Old 03-17-2009, 01:23 AM   #4
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You are right i have 195,000 mi on my OEM pad's
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Old 03-17-2009, 01:27 AM   #5
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Was that for the 6?
For the SS, i was hoping for better. The Chally, which i know isnt great, got better then that
But then agian it is that fat!
Lmao today some guy in a Black challenger was leaning over to stare at the parking lot witht the Camaros, cant wait until i pull next to one at a light
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Old 03-17-2009, 06:28 AM   #6
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Just as important as stopping distance is fading, especially for folks doing lots of mountain driving. I grew up in Colorado and many people use just their brakes, not lower gears, when coming down the mountains. Remember, most of the Camaro buyers, in the long term, won't be gearheads.
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4000lbs... stopping from 60 mph in 125 feet.... not bad in my book.

could aways be better.... for a price
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Old 03-17-2009, 09:15 AM   #8
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if it's a huge issue for you, swapping the SS brakes (along with wheels that will fit them) onto the V6 or the CTS-V brakes onto the SS should be no problem
Can you imagine the cost though? going from the 4 pot brimbos to the 6 pot? thats probably a 3000 upgrade...
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Can you imagine the cost though? going from the 4 pot brimbos to the 6 pot? thats probably a 3000 upgrade...
he never mentioned cost being an issue...
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Was that for the 6?
For the SS, i was hoping for better. The Chally, which i know isnt great, got better then that
But then agian it is that fat!
Lmao today some guy in a Black challenger was leaning over to stare at the parking lot witht the Camaros, cant wait until i pull next to one at a light
that sounds like the figure for the V6. the SS should be under 117ft (straight from Al).
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I believe the OP is misinformed. That is probably for the V6.

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And that 117 would be even shorter with a lighter wheel. Those 20's probably weigh a good 30 lbs each.
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I believe the OP is misinformed. That is probably for the V6.



http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=129496
From this thread .. it states 123ft for the V8 ..

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15570

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From this thread .. it states 123ft for the V8 ..

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So is it 125, 123, or 117 feet lol.
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chevrolet.com/camaro has 123ft for the SS.
it also says that it still only gets 23 (22 for the manual) mpg.

watch the video above. Al Oppenheiser is the Camaro Chief Engineer & he states that 117ft (or less) is for the SS. i highly doubt figures that have been previously released are going to be revised with numbers showing degraded performance
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I hope for the Camaro's sake that the SS brakes better than 123 from 60. Motortrend got 108 ft in the 2010 Mustang.
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it also says that it still only gets 23 (22 for the manual) mpg.

watch the video above. Al Oppenheiser is the Camaro Chief Engineer & he states that 117ft (or less) is for the SS. i highly doubt figures that have been previously released are going to be revised with numbers showing degraded performance
Not in the chart. It has the correct MPG in the chart. It's just the graphics that have the old estimated stuff.
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It'd be nicer to see 117-feet but it's not like it's too big a deal. However, when you think about it, a few feel could be all that keep one from stuffing the front of their Camaro into the back of another car...
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I was a little surprised too since Brembos are supposed to make performance brakes.
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Retro rockets perhaps?
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My idea would be throw in some more aggressive pads, maybe some vented and drilled rotors. If you need more than that you are looking at some serious money. I would think those two upgrades would make an improvement.
You could put on stainless brake lines also. That should be more than enough for any of us regular folks. Maybe racing would require more.
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You really arent going to get huge gains worth the money in braking distance. That number (be it 125 or 117) is extremely good. However the benefit of better brakes is less fade. So it stops just as well on the 20th stop as the 1st, when you are driving "spiritedly".

The Stock Brembos are VERY good brakes, and you will have to spend a WHOLE LOT of money to upgrade them significantly. There are lots of things you can do to make them better as is, such as brake cooling. I believe the SS has brake ducts from the front grill similar to the Vette, if not I'm SURE someone will build them eventually. As well slotted and drilled rotors help dissipate heat more. Finally steel braided lines (if it doesnt already have them) help keep even constant pressure all the time, and prevents against lines bursting. Those things are more than enough for any street driving or even HPDE and Autocross type of events. You will not get any sort of significant gains otherwise without spending BIG bucks, and if you are driving on the street and need that sort of braking, you are trying very hard for a Camaro shaped coffin.
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Retro rockets perhaps?
I like you thinking

Until then, a set of Hawk HPS or HP+ pads should bring the stopping distance down a few feet, as long as you don't mind cleaning your wheels once every two weeks.

For more stopping power, the CTS-V brakes sound like a viable solution, but I haven't done any research yet to see if they fit...

Unfortunately this car is too new for anyone to be making aftermarket caliper brackets, which are widely available for the 4th Gen. It will be awhile before the assortment of aftermarket parts catches up with the 4th Gens...
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Finally steel braided lines (if it doesnt already have them) help keep even constant pressure all the time, and prevents against lines bursting.
Just be sure that the lines have the vinyl coating around them to keep little particle of dirt from finding their way into the steel weave and wearing down the inside rubber liner...

Once again, the aftermarket for this car will take some time to develop as well as some time for people to test the new parts and find out which ones are designed well and which ones need a little re-design...
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I was a little surprised too since Brembos are supposed to make performance brakes.

Retro rockets perhaps?
you gotta remember tho.... this is a 4000 lb vehicle moving at 60mph... (or higher in most of our cases) to 0mph. i wanna see what the chally and the rustang do in the same test.


and actually, I was thinking a dragline or something. retractable chutes or something along those lines.... lol
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