Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
Jason 98 TA
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > Specific Models / Packages > Camaro Convertible Forum

Camaro Convertible Forum For all Camaro Convertible specific discussions

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 07-14-2011, 04:32 PM   #26
PQ
Booooosted.
 
PQ's Avatar
 
Drives: Blown beast.
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Mobile, AL
Posts: 36,916
Send a message via Yahoo to PQ
Quote:
Originally Posted by DGthe3 View Post
Wait ... PQ saying 'run what you brung'? I could see GTAHVIT saying that, but not you ...
Actually , I got it FROM him.
__________________
PQ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2011, 04:59 PM   #27
bulllett
 
Drives: 2012 Camaro Convertible
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: East Hampton, CT
Posts: 421
Sorry, couldn't be more unimpressed. But it fits my first assessment of the Camaro Convertible SS; least impressive 400+ sports car I've driven.

And the price for all that 750 horse "unimpressment"? Ludicrous.

Its not that I'm knocking the Convertible Camaro, its just that this is not a car to race with. Its quite the piece of art, but (especially at that price), not a race car.

Sell it all you want, but why don't you talk to some regular 1/4 milers? Generally, trap speed is an indicator of power -stock tires or not. 1/4 time is more an indicator of traction and driver's ability.

C'mon fella's buck 17 trap? For 80k plus the car? Gotta be a more money than brains situation.

Sorry
bulllett is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2011, 05:13 PM   #28
Z28RockStar

 
Z28RockStar's Avatar
 
Drives: 2SS/RS CGM 6M, 2007 Harley Deluxe
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Dallas Tx
Posts: 2,084
Talking LOL

Quote:
Originally Posted by PQ View Post
Believe me, DRs on a track would make a WORLD of difference. The times on the video were not about the power/torque, or shifting gears, but ALL about the launch.

I give them props for keeping it real. Meaning they 'Run what they Brung' so to speak. They tested it as you'd buy it.

My car should run mid 11s with good DRs on a track. And before the cam went in I ran 12.3 at the fest with DRs. On the street with these donk wheels I'd be doing well to get into the 12s.
Quote:
Originally Posted by DGthe3 View Post
Wait ... PQ saying 'run what you brung'? I could see GTAHVIT saying that, but not you ...

PQ is ina good mood today haha!
__________________
Who doesn't love puppies and beer?
Z28RockStar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2011, 08:02 PM   #29
MS3DALE

 
MS3DALE's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 2SS/RS LS3/6M Litho#190
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Carmichaels,Pa.
Posts: 2,195
I do love those HRE wheels they use on the ZL1!
__________________

'11 IOM 2SS/RS LS3/6M HURST - Roto-Fab CAI-Kook's LTs-CORSA-Black Bear tuned
Proud Litho owner #190 - Homecoming Litho #120
'07 SILVERADO Z71 1500 Ext.Cab Z71 6.0 "VortecMAX"-GMPP CAI-CORSA-Black Bear tuned
MS3DALE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2011, 09:24 PM   #30
united1
 
united1's Avatar
 
Drives: slpzl585vert.
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: ma.
Posts: 723
those numbers don't add up, that car should be in the mid 10s on the 1/4. Not what I expected to see. Now it's up to SLP to come back and push that thing to it's limit.

And to all the guy's that say the vert's are not for speed , your just the kind of guy's I like to see in my mirror . Remember the weight difference isn't much and the car handles the same as the hard top.
__________________
Thanks guys<img src=images/smilies/w00t.gif border=0 alt= title=W00t class=inlineimg />
united1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2011, 10:44 PM   #31
Detoxx03
ЯєŧąяĐ Єlmиąŧя
 
Detoxx03's Avatar
 
Drives: 2008 Corvette
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 782
A bump from 91 octane to 93 or 94 isn't gonna increase power from 617rwhp to 750rwhp. No if we are talking C16 then I could see the possibilities. I'm from Michigan and i'm pretty sure SLP is based in New Jersey.
__________________

D1SC Procharger 780/661
A Futral Motorsports Creation
https://www.facebook.com/DetoxxAtomic
Detoxx03 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2011, 11:27 PM   #32
showstopper
Showstopper Accessories

 
Drives: 2010 RS/SS
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 3,034
Quote:
Originally Posted by Black5thgen View Post
It takes a forged LS7 and a TVS2300 to get to Whipple LS3 numbers?? I am very impressed with the package, I think it looks awesome. However I am really let down by the HP and ET numbers.
I have a feeling that is a conservative tune on that ls7.
__________________
showstopper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2011, 11:32 PM   #33
united1
 
united1's Avatar
 
Drives: slpzl585vert.
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: ma.
Posts: 723
Quote:
Originally Posted by showstopper View Post
I have a feeling that is a conservative tune on that ls7.
Conservative for sure. For the price difference I'll stick with my ZL585. Not much difference in numbers.
__________________
Thanks guys<img src=images/smilies/w00t.gif border=0 alt= title=W00t class=inlineimg />
united1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2011, 12:50 AM   #34
HaVoKZ06
I love my GM cars!!
 
HaVoKZ06's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 Vette Z06, 2011 Camaro SS2/RS
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Malibu, California
Posts: 11
I'm sorry number one that car is nowhere as nice as the "Real" GM ZL1 coming out. The price is outrageous when I can wait and get the real deal. I can also up grade and MOD that ZL1 that I am buying and it will have same or more horse power!!! Bad move to bring out a car that GM has coming out from "GM". It looks like any other stock SS Camaro with an $800.00 bumper and logos stuck on it with the basic stock interior other than embroidery and liitle change up on the stock center of the seat. And a create motor LS7 with whipple supercharger.. LOL not even an LSA motor . No...maybe I sould upgrade my own SS I already own and can do it for cheaper and slap some ZL1 logos on it. Un no wait I'll buy a "real" one when it comes out from GM!


Last edited by HaVoKZ06; 07-15-2011 at 01:19 AM.
HaVoKZ06 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2011, 08:58 AM   #35
SS4Fun
and that it is!!
 
SS4Fun's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 SLP ZL575 #70
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: N. Virginia
Posts: 1,022
Quote:
Originally Posted by HaVoKZ06 View Post
I'm sorry number one that car is nowhere as nice as the "Real" GM ZL1 coming out. The price is outrageous when I can wait and get the real deal. I can also up grade and MOD that ZL1 that I am buying and it will have same or more horse power!!! Bad move to bring out a car that GM has coming out from "GM". It looks like any other stock SS Camaro with an $800.00 bumper and logos stuck on it with the basic stock interior other than embroidery and liitle change up on the stock center of the seat. And a create motor LS7 with whipple supercharger.. LOL not even an LSA motor . No...maybe I sould upgrade my own SS I already own and can do it for cheaper and slap some ZL1 logos on it. Un no wait I'll buy a "real" one when it comes out from GM!

SLP's ZL1 has been "out" for quite some time now.............. and modded more then just a SC and some badging.
http://slpcamaro.com/zl-models/zl1/
__________________
SS4Fun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2011, 09:05 AM   #36
CUPRA

 
CUPRA's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 2SS/RS - IOM/CGM Stripes
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Keller, TX
Posts: 1,283
As mentioned, I wish you could buy that rear diffuser separately.
__________________


2011 - 2SS/RS - IOM/CGM Stripes CUPRA Ordered: 4/10/2010 Mine: 7/1/2010 - 426BHP+CAI
CUPRA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2011, 09:08 AM   #37
SUX2BU
Quit being a pu$$y
 
SUX2BU's Avatar
 
Drives: FAST
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Sachse TX (DFW)
Posts: 5,816
12.2 @117 mph? Those are the kind of times I'm expecting out of my convertible after I throw the cam sitting on my shelf in the car. I'm also expecting to dyno about 150 rwhp less.

LOL, it wouldn't even be close to being in the top 32 on the quickest 1/4 mile power adder list, there are also 16 cars faster than it on the non power adder list. It would hold the #9 spot on the bolt ons only list, LOL

To all my convertible brethren, don't worry I WILL get respectable times for my mods out of my convertible, just waiting for this 100+ Texas heat to subside.
SUX2BU is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2011, 10:05 AM   #38
Texas2SS
Loves Nitrous
 
Texas2SS's Avatar
 
Drives: Rarely
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: 620
Posts: 4,890
Quote:
Originally Posted by Detoxx03 View Post
A bump from 91 octane to 93 or 94 isn't gonna increase power from 617rwhp to 750rwhp. No if we are talking C16 then I could see the possibilities. I'm from Michigan and i'm pretty sure SLP is based in New Jersey.
No one said 750 at the wheels. the claimed 750 is at the crank and the 617 is at the wheels.
Texas2SS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2011, 10:14 AM   #39
Detoxx03
ЯєŧąяĐ Єlmиąŧя
 
Detoxx03's Avatar
 
Drives: 2008 Corvette
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 782
Quote:
Originally Posted by Texas2SS View Post
No one said 750 at the wheels. the claimed 750 is at the crank and the 617 is at the wheels.
Obviously I'm aware of that but if you listen to the video again the guy tries to make it seem like it would get to 750rwhp with higher octane.
__________________

D1SC Procharger 780/661
A Futral Motorsports Creation
https://www.facebook.com/DetoxxAtomic
Detoxx03 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2011, 12:26 PM   #40
SUX2BU
Quit being a pu$$y
 
SUX2BU's Avatar
 
Drives: FAST
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Sachse TX (DFW)
Posts: 5,816
Quote:
Originally Posted by Detoxx03 View Post
Obviously I'm aware of that but if you listen to the video again the guy tries to make it seem like it would get to 750rwhp with higher octane.
No he doesn't. "It did over 615 horsepower to the wheels and maybe it's not quite 750 horsepower to the flywheel, but remember we're running 91 octane. On 93 or 94 octane like you get in the rest of the world, it's making 750 horsepower."
He even emphasized "rear wheel horsepower" when he said they made over 615. Obviously he didn't say flywheel or rear wheel at the very end when he said "it's making 750 horsepower" but I guess that is his fault for expecting people to use common sense and not think a couple of octane points will get you 135 rwhp.
SUX2BU is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2011, 01:18 PM   #41
Detoxx03
ЯєŧąяĐ Єlmиąŧя
 
Detoxx03's Avatar
 
Drives: 2008 Corvette
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 782
I get that already. I'm trying to clarify it for the newbs that may not know the difference between rwhp and flywheel
__________________

D1SC Procharger 780/661
A Futral Motorsports Creation
https://www.facebook.com/DetoxxAtomic
Detoxx03 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2011, 01:50 PM   #42
Whitten
 
Drives: -
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 76
I appreciate most of what they have done with this car, and because it is a little heavier due to the convertible top I expected a less than stellar showing in the 1/4 mile while on an unprepared track with street tires.

That being said the MPH to me is not up to snuff for the power. At 117mph, lightly modded 03 Cobras would be giving this thing a hard time.

My hats off to SLP for putting together a nice looking car with a cool engine package. After GMMG built the last 69 ZL-1s in 2002 I feel like everything since has been played out. Couple that with the fact that GM will now have a regular production of ZL-1s that are much less expensive and I think poor SLP may need to put their own monicker on the car instead of using the ZL-1 name plate.
The simple fact is that a ZL-1 should not be a plush street cruising convertible. It should be a stripped down bare bones lightweight drag car that looks like a base model or has very understated enhancements that shed pounds. In my humble estimation they could have started with a base v6 or even SS, installed the necessaries to make it NHRA legal, stuck with the ALL aluminum LS7 with some better heads, cam, Headers and intake. And for the exterior a set of understated custom width black or body colored steel wheels with an option for a matching set with drag tires already mounted so you could swap tires out without drawing much attention.

All that being said not even GM stuck to this formula which I imagine is the collective desire of the Camaro community.

This is just one mans humble opinion.
Whitten is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2011, 09:31 AM   #43
HashimAzzouz
 
Drives: 2011 2SS/RS IOM ~ 2009 Traverse LT
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
Posts: 514
I hate the white color on cars... but this look bad ass to me.. really nice job.. the sound of it just blow me away... good job guys
HashimAzzouz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2011, 11:45 AM   #44
SUX2BU
Quit being a pu$$y
 
SUX2BU's Avatar
 
Drives: FAST
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Sachse TX (DFW)
Posts: 5,816
Quote:
Originally Posted by Whitten View Post
I appreciate most of what they have done with this car, and because it is a little heavier due to the convertible top I expected a less than stellar showing in the 1/4 mile while on an unprepared track with street tires.

That being said the MPH to me is not up to snuff for the power. At 117mph, lightly modded 03 Cobras would be giving this thing a hard time.

My hats off to SLP for putting together a nice looking car with a cool engine package. After GMMG built the last 69 ZL-1s in 2002 I feel like everything since has been played out. Couple that with the fact that GM will now have a regular production of ZL-1s that are much less expensive and I think poor SLP may need to put their own monicker on the car instead of using the ZL-1 name plate.
The simple fact is that a ZL-1 should not be a plush street cruising convertible. It should be a stripped down bare bones lightweight drag car that looks like a base model or has very understated enhancements that shed pounds. In my humble estimation they could have started with a base v6 or even SS, installed the necessaries to make it NHRA legal, stuck with the ALL aluminum LS7 with some better heads, cam, Headers and intake. And for the exterior a set of understated custom width black or body colored steel wheels with an option for a matching set with drag tires already mounted so you could swap tires out without drawing much attention.

All that being said not even GM stuck to this formula which I imagine is the collective desire of the Camaro community.

This is just one mans humble opinion.
You do realize to make the ZL1 NHRA legal it would need a roll bar. While for most of us on this site that would be awesome, GM is not going to build a 4 seater car where the rear seats are a death trap.

Gm builds cars to sell and a stripped down race car would not sell anywhere near what a fully loaded car would.
SUX2BU is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2011, 12:52 AM   #45
Dalton22
 
Drives: 2011 VR 2SS/RS M6. 2000 lifted Z71
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: San Marcos, TX and Richmond, TX
Posts: 30
Despite all the negative comments, this is one of the best looking 5th gens I have seen. Awesome job on appearance and the houndstooth interior, sure the numbers aren't insanely impressive. I do believe the car could easily push 11's however in different conditions and slicks. I don't know if its the combination of the fascia and hood, but the front of this car looks awesome to me.
Dalton22 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2011, 10:22 AM   #46
Whitten
 
Drives: -
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 76
Quote:
Originally Posted by SUX2BU View Post
You do realize to make the ZL1 NHRA legal it would need a roll bar. While for most of us on this site that would be awesome, GM is not going to build a 4 seater car where the rear seats are a death trap.

Gm builds cars to sell and a stripped down race car would not sell anywhere near what a fully loaded car would.

In response to your response about my response, yes I am aware of the rules and regs. My suggestion was not directed to GM but SLP since they are now competing with GM for the same name.

Needless to say GM would have no problem selling a low production number drag car...their competition has people lining up to pay large amounts for them every year.

http://www.fordracingparts.com/cobrajet/
http://www.mopar.com/performance/dragpak.html

The crux of my argument was that a Camaro with the ZL-1 Moniker should be NHRA Legal. And if my reading is correct on the rules book a car need only have a cage if it runs 11.49 or faster in the 1/4 mile. That being said do not take this as a complaint that the ZL-1 name plate is back but rather a reminder of the ZL-1 history. By nature if the car was not an impressive drag car with ultra low numbers and a unique engine then it would not have been as sought after.

In a nutshell SLP has produced a stellar product but I do not feel as though it fits the nomenclature of its namesake. Devils Advocate arguers would suggest at least it is limited to 69 cars per year rather than what GM will run. At any rate these are all talking points and talking points only because they are going to build and sell them anyway.

*Edit
SUX2BU I just noticed you are from Sachse...I used to live there as well and I have to say it is rare to meet another person from there. I used to live at the corner of Murphy and 78 on street called Jefferson...hell you can see our old house from Murphy.

Last edited by Whitten; 07-20-2011 at 09:16 AM.
Whitten is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
V8 Camaro Performance Upgrades List Milk 1027 Camaro V8 LS3 / L99 Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons 88 12-21-2014 10:28 PM
EVERYBODY POST YOUR DYNO NUMBERS!(sticky request) KMPrenger Camaro V6 LLT Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons 364 11-24-2014 09:19 AM
ZL1 / CTS-V Brakes JusticePete Suspension / Brakes / Chassis 507 07-31-2014 01:34 PM
Poll -- Camaro vs Mustang Supercar Shootout JusticePete Suspension / Brakes / Chassis 105 10-09-2013 03:18 PM
5th Gen Suspension -- The Book JusticePete Suspension / Brakes / Chassis 148 09-04-2013 03:28 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:30 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.