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Old 07-08-2011, 04:33 PM   #26
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Ya.....sad to say that CGM is a thing of the past. Discontinued in 2012.

Perhaps Carbon Flash Metallic?
No Carbon Flash Metallic on ZL1 either the color is reserved for 45th anniv Camaros.
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Old 07-08-2011, 04:41 PM   #27
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so what are the color options for the ZL1?
Nothing official on ZL1 but fbodfather has said same color palette for ZL1 as the other 2012 Camaro colors.
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No color restraints. Silver, white, black, yellow, orange and Victory red are the only choices at this point."
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No Carbon Flash Metallic on ZL1 either the color is reserved for 45th anniv Camaros.

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Old 07-08-2011, 04:43 PM   #29
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With all the people claiming to be buying a ZL1 including myself, I wonder just how many of us will be able to get our wish. I mean I have money down already and my dealer claims I'll get one ,but it seem to me that GM doesn't plan on building many which will leave many of us out in the cold. What do you guy think about this?
There is always the 2013 ZL-1 as well..
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Old 07-09-2011, 10:25 AM   #30
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I am trading mine also but will leave the ZL1 pure stock. Why mod a ZL1? It's just perfect the way God made it!
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Old 07-09-2011, 10:36 AM   #31
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Im trading in my 2SS and buying a ZL1 as soon as they come out

Im thinking cyber gray with the black stripe

Smaller pully on the blower, kooks, and a nice dyno tune right away,

10sec material? yay or nay?
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I thought the car stock is going to run mid 11s. with all that you should be in mid 10s, no?
Sorry. No. It's not that easy. Mid 11s with a few mods and DRs probably. Those remaining tenths are HAAAARD to come by.

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With all the people claiming to be buying a ZL1 including myself, I wonder just how many of us will be able to get our wish. I mean I have money down already and my dealer claims I'll get one ,but it seem to me that GM doesn't plan on building many which will leave many of us out in the cold. What do you guy think about this?
Coolman, you are just in antcipatory mode. (did I just make up a word?)

I did the same thing. I wanted to wait but I ordered my car before production becasue I thought they may stop it due to economic/bailout/cafe/bankruptcy purposes. Paranoid till I got my car.
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Old 07-09-2011, 10:37 AM   #32
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Old 07-09-2011, 10:57 AM   #33
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10 sec car...No chance. To many people think it takes nothing to have a 10 second car. If so, then why are ther 50 or so cars that make 600+ rwhp and what, maybe 8 have made 10 second passes. You'll prob end up with a low 11 second car which is pretty good for just the few things you mentioned about changing. But 10 second's...Thanks for my Sat am laugh.
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Old 07-09-2011, 12:11 PM   #34
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Sorry. No. It's not that easy. Mid 11s with a few mods and DRs probably. Those remaining tenths are HAAAARD to come by.
With the right driver, the CTS-V can break into the 11's bone stock. Put a set of DR's on it and it will probably hit mid 11's. The ZL1 should be lighter than the CTS-V so I see no reason why we won't see 11 second runs from the ZL1.

Here's the quarter mile fast list from the Caddy forum.

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With the right driver, the CTS-V can break into the 11's bone stock. Put a set of DR's on it and it will probably hit mid 11's. The ZL1 should be lighter than the CTS-V so I see no reason why we won't see 11 second runs from the ZL1.

Here's the quarter mile fast list from the Caddy forum.
Only one stock barely broke into the 11s. And even the lightly moded ones are high 11s ans low 12s.

So you figure the ZL1 stock maybe a tenth or two faster stock and you're still upper 11s. Add a few bolt ons and mid 11s with an occasional low 11 on DRs. 10s? No way. Even if you pulley down and tune. Again, at this point those extra tenths of a second are harder and harder to overcome. We're talking about a car (ZL1) that will probably not make it to 500 rwhp at the wheels and still has a lot of weight to it which will average upper 11s and low 12s. It will take more than just a pulley swap and tune to overcome what will be .7 ish at that point.

But we can talk paper numbers all day long. Until we get some numbers it doesnt' matter.
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Old 07-09-2011, 02:47 PM   #36
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I believe the 2012 model year will be a smallest
number of ZL1' being produced of any production
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Old 07-09-2011, 04:43 PM   #37
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10 sec car...No chance. To many people think it takes nothing to have a 10 second car. If so, then why are ther 50 or so cars that make 600+ rwhp and what, maybe 8 have made 10 second passes. You'll prob end up with a low 11 second car which is pretty good for just the few things you mentioned about changing. But 10 second's...Thanks for my Sat am laugh.
10's sounds pretty good to me right about now...hell, i'd be happy with a 14
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Old 07-11-2011, 08:40 PM   #38
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Nothing official on ZL1 but fbodfather has said same color palette for ZL1 as the other 2012 Camaro colors.
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No color restraints. Silver, white, black, yellow, orange and Victory red are the only choices at this point."
damn, I have a Black ss now and I absolutely love the color (best color for any car in my opinion) but its so damn hard to keep clean.

I was hoping there would be a dark grey for the ZL1, if not then im prob gunna go for either black or white :/
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Old 07-13-2011, 01:39 AM   #39
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10 seconds aint gonna happen....not bone stock anyway...come on guys you know this already.... my prediction is maybe mid 11's.. at best... we shall see..
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10 seconds aint gonna happen....not bone stock anyway...come on guys you know this already.... my prediction is maybe mid 11's.. at best... we shall see..
Which will be faster? The auto or stick? Depends on who's driving it?
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No Carbon Flash Metallic on ZL1 either the color is reserved for 45th anniv Camaros.
They haven't said that there will be a 45th anniversary edition ZL1... but they haven't said there won't be. Have to wait & see.

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They haven't said that there will be a 45th anniversary edition ZL1... but they haven't said there won't be. Have to wait & see.

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..I just had a thought, how about if they offered a special limited edition ZL1 with a LS9. The '69 ZL1 had the most technologicaly developed engine of it's day with the corresponding price tag. This creation should have the same as well. Wouldn't that be something. We have debated this all the ballpark before with adding a LS7 or LS9 as an option, but in a tribute package fitting it's lineage and legacy it would be the most impressive monolith one could come up for the beast. It's all about an exclusive offer with a much higher capacity for additional horsepower beyond what those other four letter word guys are going to put out next year. Beyond the reach of most in price...but priceless to others. I can only imagine how that could escalate the megaton horsepower race.
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..I just had a thought, how about if they offered a special limited edition ZL1 with a LS9. The '69 ZL1 had the most technologicaly developed engine of it's day with the corresponding price tag. This creation should have the same as well. Wouldn't that be something. We have debated this all the ballpark before with adding a LS7 or LS9 as an option, but in a tribute package fitting it's lineage and legacy it would be the most impressive monolith one could come up for the beast. It's all about an exclusive offer with a much higher capacity for additional horsepower beyond what those other four letter word guys are going to put out next year. Beyond the reach of most in price...but priceless to others. I can only imagine how that could escalate the megaton horsepower race.

I think that's a fantastic idea for the reasons you mentioned. Also, while a completely different car and approach, this could draw some parallels to the higher priced, limited edition Leguna Seca Boss 302 model. What would you estimate a limited edition LS9 equipped "Super ZL1" would cost over the LSA version, $10-15k? That's not even considering dealer markups like the Leguna Seca experiences.

Regardless, as much as I'd like to see it offered, I don't think this has a snowballs chance in hell of happening. Fun to talk about though.
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They haven't said that there will be a 45th anniversary edition ZL1... but they haven't said there won't be. Have to wait & see.

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That's a color I could stand behind, too Maybe we'll see it as a standard or additional cost color down the line; I hope, at least

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..I just had a thought, how about if they offered a special limited edition ZL1 with a LS9. The '69 ZL1 had the most technologicaly developed engine of it's day with the corresponding price tag. This creation should have the same as well. Wouldn't that be something. We have debated this all the ballpark before with adding a LS7 or LS9 as an option, but in a tribute package fitting it's lineage and legacy it would be the most impressive monolith one could come up for the beast. It's all about an exclusive offer with a much higher capacity for additional horsepower beyond what those other four letter word guys are going to put out next year. Beyond the reach of most in price...but priceless to others. I can only imagine how that could escalate the megaton horsepower race.
I think this is a great idea, but I agree with Shure'... I do like the idea of an ultra-CAMARO (though I think ZL1 is good enough), and agree LS9 would be perfect, but re-engineering another 1/3 of the car is going to cost out the tailpipes. It's not like people haven't spent that kind of money on their CAMAROs, so I'm not opposed to it, but if it takes away from developing and or improving the current models, I have a little issue with that. I'm loving what we're learning about the '12 suspension changes and interior improvements, and we know that many of those trickled down from ZL1, so those development costs were shared a bit. An LS9 ZL1 would go beyond that, and I could definately see customers complain their $80-$90K CAMAROs look too similar to $50K models, just like we see a little now.

However, as much as I want a new ZL1, I might think about waiting several years for this Ultra ZL1 to show up at a reasonable price in the used car lot

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I think that's a fantastic idea for the reasons you mentioned. Also, while a completely different car and approach, this could draw some parallels to the higher priced, limited edition Leguna Seca Boss 302 model. What would you estimate a limited edition LS9 equipped "Super ZL1" would cost over the LSA version, $10-15k? That's not even considering dealer markups like the Leguna Seca experiences.

Regardless, as much as I'd like to see it offered, I don't think this has a snowballs chance in hell of happening. Fun to talk about though.
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Regardless, as much as I'd like to see it offered, I don't think this has a snowballs chance in hell of happening. Fun to talk about though.
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