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Old 07-07-2011, 08:19 PM   #1
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Supercharged Camaro

I have an automatic V6 Camaro and I really want to supercharge it. The reason i got the V6 auto was because my parents didn't want me to get a V8. I just want suggestions on what supercharger i should get. Because one car dealer told me i cant supercharge my Camaro and the other said that i should ask around and see what other people like. Thanks!
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Old 07-07-2011, 08:41 PM   #2
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So your parents bought you your car? and search is your friend. There's a forum thread for this kind of stuff specifically for the V6...http://www.camaro5.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=98
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Old 07-07-2011, 08:54 PM   #3
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So your parents bought you your car? and search is your friend. There's a forum thread for this kind of stuff specifically for the V6...http://www.camaro5.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=98
Nope, i bought my own car. i was only 17 when i bought it so i had to listen to my parents
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Old 07-07-2011, 08:57 PM   #4
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For the price to SS or TC you might as well sell your car and buy an SS. I know people have done that to the V6 but the V6 is also already pushed pretty far on NA.
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Old 07-07-2011, 08:59 PM   #5
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Pushed pretty far? Seriously? There's a 505hp tc V6 sitting at AAC right now... I don't think NA is pushed pretty far at all... it has a lot of potential.

Yes this one is a V6... originally an LS
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Old 07-07-2011, 09:00 PM   #6
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two guys here putting down around 400 RWHP with twin turbos. Jump in the V6 sub forum anytime.
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Old 07-07-2011, 09:02 PM   #7
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Pushed pretty far? Seriously? There's a 505hp tc V6 sitting at AAC right now... I don't think NA is pushed pretty far at all... it has a lot of potential.

Yes this one is a V6... originally an LS
That one is pushed pretty far. Not a stock motor, that's for sure.
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Old 07-07-2011, 09:26 PM   #8
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Are you saying that because it has an intercooler for the tc?

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That one is pushed pretty far. Not a stock motor, that's for sure.
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Old 07-07-2011, 09:33 PM   #9
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Are you saying that because it has an intercooler for the tc?
No because a stock tc V6 making 30 less than me is being optimistic.

That car in the pic is tricked out. A awesome looking car. I'm 99.9% sure that's not a stock motor though, I visited his page awhile back but can't remember.
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Old 07-07-2011, 10:19 PM   #10
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I though the whole point of them building that one is to show what the v6 could do? i could be wrong though i guess... Im knew to the "car" thing... Truck guy here...
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Old 07-07-2011, 10:55 PM   #11
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there is no supercharger for the V6, and all the turbo systems that are out are not perfect.
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Old 07-07-2011, 11:01 PM   #12
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No because a stock tc V6 making 30 less than me is being optimistic.

That car in the pic is tricked out. A awesome looking car. I'm 99.9% sure that's not a stock motor though, I visited his page awhile back but can't remember.
That car may look tricked out, but its just running an STS single turbo...several V6 cars out there are running them. The motors have not been gone through at all. We also have a couple guys running twin turbo setups pushing 390 to 400 rwhp....and they only stopped there because they can't get the necessary fuel to push farther than that and the cars are leaning out. It only takes 5 or 6 psi of boost to get there as well as running more boost causing the lean issue.

Some have been running like this for months even doing track time on stock internals with zero issues thus far. I'm not saying issues won't happen, but they haven't thus far. Some of the LLTs internals come forged from the factory, but not everything.

As a side note, one of the guys doing the twin turbo setup has shipped his car down to Jannetty in Florida and he will be building a forged engine, and will be strengthening the drivetrain so he can run much bigger boost. Should be interesting.
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Old 07-07-2011, 11:03 PM   #13
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Back to the OPs question...if your set on a supercharger...sadly there isn't one yet. Would need to be custom done. Can't believe no one has stepped up with a SC for this car, but it just hasn't happened yet.

We've had companies stop in and tell us they are interested in doing the project....but doesn't go much further.

Hopefully it will happen soon.
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Old 07-07-2011, 11:08 PM   #14
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That car may look tricked out, but its just running an STS single turbo...several V6 cars out there are running them. The motors have not been gone through at all. We also have a couple guys running twin turbo setups pushing 390 to 400 rwhp....and they only stopped there because they can't get the necessary fuel to push farther than that and the cars are leaning out. It only takes 5 or 6 psi of boost to get there as well as running more boost causing the lean issue.

Some have been running like this for months even doing track time on stock internals with zero issues thus far. I'm not saying issues won't happen, but they haven't thus far. Some of the LLTs internals come forged from the factory, but not everything.

As a side note, one of the guys doing the twin turbo setup has shipped his car down to Jannetty in Florida and he will be building a forged engine, and will be strengthening the drivetrain so he can run much bigger boost. Should be interesting.
I could be wrong, but I think you are talking about gretchin which was sent to Tracy at RX Performance in Bradenton and that setup is for sale. The car runs great I got to drive it myself. They are just trying to get more boost which will be awesome when they do.
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No because a stock tc V6 making 30 less than me is being optimistic.

That car in the pic is tricked out. A awesome looking car. I'm 99.9% sure that's not a stock motor though, I visited his page awhile back but can't remember.
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That car may look tricked out, but its just running an STS single turbo...several V6 cars out there are running them. The motors have not been gone through at all. We also have a couple guys running twin turbo setups pushing 390 to 400 rwhp....and they only stopped there because they can't get the necessary fuel to push farther than that and the cars are leaning out. It only takes 5 or 6 psi of boost to get there as well as running more boost causing the lean issue.

Some have been running like this for months even doing track time on stock internals with zero issues thus far. I'm not saying issues won't happen, but they haven't thus far. Some of the LLTs internals come forged from the factory, but not everything.

As a side note, one of the guys doing the twin turbo setup has shipped his car down to Jannetty in Florida and he will be building a forged engine, and will be strengthening the drivetrain so he can run much bigger boost. Should be interesting.
KNPrenger,
Thanks for the backup on that... as I have seen this car in person and know it's a stock motor.
McDoogle... sorry to burst your bubble but there's quite a few V6s out there that will walk your car. But mine isn't one of them... yet.
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Yes, the AAC car has the LLT engine without any internal modifications. Mine (Getchen as OOLIE pointed out) is going back to RX Performance (so close KMP, but no cigar this time) and will get forged pistons that will also lower the compression ratio. The crank and rods on the LLT are already forged (much like you see on a lot of FI cars from the factory -- MazdaSpeed3, Colbalt SS, Cruze...) and can handle boost quite well. As KMP pointed out, the fuel system can't keep up. We hope to have a solution for that in about a month.

One thing I think there is some confusion on (including myself) is how much power the AAC car makes. I believe the 505 is at the crank, but they can correct me if I'm wrong. If it is at the wheels it would be nice to know how they solved the fuel issue.
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Dangit...

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On thing I think there is some confusion on (including myself) is how much power the AAC car makes. I believe the 505 is at the crank, but they can correct me if I'm wrong. If it is at the wheels it would be nice to know how they solved the fuel issue.
That was the estimated crank output...wasn't 505 at the wheels.
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That car may look tricked out, but its just running an STS single turbo...several V6 cars out there are running them. The motors have not been gone through at all. We also have a couple guys running twin turbo setups pushing 390 to 400 rwhp....and they only stopped there because they can't get the necessary fuel to push farther than that and the cars are leaning out. It only takes 5 or 6 psi of boost to get there as well as running more boost causing the lean issue.

Some have been running like this for months even doing track time on stock internals with zero issues thus far. I'm not saying issues won't happen, but they haven't thus far. Some of the LLTs internals come forged from the factory, but not everything.

As a side note, one of the guys doing the twin turbo setup has shipped his car down to Jannetty in Florida and he will be building a forged engine, and will be strengthening the drivetrain so he can run much bigger boost. Should be interesting.
I know what the V6 is capable of. 390-400 seems realistic. This guy on the other hand is claiming the car put down 505 and apparently that's not pushing the motor hard.

I'm sorry but that V6 isn't going to put down similar numbers of a V8 while both pretty much stock other than seeing boost. That's just asking to get flamed.
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Yes, the AAC car has the LLT engine without any internal modifications. Mine (Getchen as OOLIE pointed out) is going back to RX Performance (so close KPM, but no cigar this time) and will get forged pistons that will also lower the compression ratio. The crank and rods on the LLT are already forged (much like you see on a lot of FI cars from the factory -- MazdaSpeed3, Colbalt SS, Cruze...) and can handle boost quite well. As KPM pointed out, the fuel system can't keep up. We hope to have a solution for that in about a month.

On thing I think there is some confusion on (including myself) is how much power the AAC car makes. I believe the 505 is at the crank , but they can correct me if I'm wrong. If it is at the wheels it would be nice to know how they solved the fuel issue.
That clears things up then. Thanks.
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That clears things up then. Thanks.
No problem. However, 500 RWHP on the stock internals of the LLT is not crazy. They have a lot of the stuff you would like to see in a FI car. The issue is the compression ratio. You can probably get around 500 RWHP on a manual at around 8-9 psi with more fuel and the internals should be fine. Going beyond that will require you to lower the CR. We are swapping out the pistons on mine to lower the CR so we can run 16+ psi. Might as well go with better rods and bolts while you are at it, so we are doing that too.
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Thanks for the backup on that... as I have seen this car in person and know it's a stock motor.
McDoogle... sorry to burst your bubble but there's quite a few V6s out there that will WALK your car. But mine isn't one of them... yet.
Don't get too ahead of yourself there buddy. V6 camaro fast list are low 12s, and I heard a few were high 11s...My plan is to break 10s this fall. So good luck.
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No problem. However, 500 RWHP on the stock internals of the LLT is not crazy. They have a lot of the stuff you would like to see in a FI car. The issue is the compression ratio. You can probably get around 500 RWHP on a manual at around 8-9 psi with more fuel and the internals should be fine. Going beyond that will require you to lower the CR. We are swapping out the pistons on mine to lower the CR so we can run 16+ psi. Might as well go with better rods and bolts while you are at it, so we are doing that too.
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Don't get too ahead of yourself there buddy. V6 camaro fast list are low 12s, and I heard a few were high 11s...My plan is to break 10s this fall. So good luck.
Very odd to see an SS owner posting in a v6 forum. Are you lost? Or just retarded?
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