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Old 03-17-2009, 03:23 PM   #1
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How many are going with a slushbox?

Is there anyone going with the A6 for strip use? I have to admit, my A4 in my '02 wasn't my first choice, but I have to also say I haven't been more consistant at the strip as I have been with this car. Shoot - I'd won three Street Drag Nights in my lane with this car without even trying. The gear spreads are large, but adding the converter (Yank SS3800) made all the difference in the world. I know Yank (among many other companies I imagine) make stalls for the 6L80, so it seems this would be a great transmission to go to the strip with.

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I would have to say one thing. If your going for consistent times down the track. Same time every time. Then the automatic is the tranny for you. I think I would have an auto if I decided to do some bracket racing
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I hate the term slushbox, reminds me too much of the old 50s and 60's automatics that would take forever to shift and were not very responsive. Today's Automatics are very technologically advanced and perform almost as crisply as any manual could.and with the manual mode are very controlable in situations that before a manual was only good for.. so Slushbox is an outdateed term and in my opinion does not fit anymore...
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Old 03-17-2009, 05:54 PM   #4
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....BUT autos are no fun...at least for me!

I gave my son the '99 Z-28 because it was an auto, car is fun to drive - but - not that fun.

The '99 doesn't compare in the fun factor to my '67 4-speed. Now which one would I rather drive on a 1,000 mile adventure? I drove the '67 1,800 miles one weekend and my back hurt for 3 days!
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Old 03-17-2009, 07:28 PM   #5
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I am soooo bracket racing with a manual....our no electronics class comes down to the tree 90% of the time. As long as your dial is attainable the rest is on the reaction....and the shifting.
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....BUT autos are no fun...at least for me!

I gave my son the '99 Z-28 because it was an auto, car is fun to drive - but - not that fun.

The '99 doesn't compare in the fun factor to my '67 4-speed. Now which one would I rather drive on a 1,000 mile adventure? I drove the '67 1,800 miles one weekend and my back hurt for 3 days!
just try to keep an open mind and check out one of the new Camaros with the paddle shifters, it could just change your mind about "Fun"
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I hate the term slushbox, reminds me too much of the old 50s and 60's automatics that would take forever to shift and were not very responsive. Today's Automatics are very technologically advanced and perform almost as crisply as any manual could.and with the manual mode are very controlable in situations that before a manual was only good for.. so Slushbox is an outdateed term and in my opinion does not fit anymore...
Sorry Tim You're right; I was just trying to use an old-school term

I don't think a performance car with a slushbox should be without a stall converter. I'll say that my car, before the SS3800, would shift at 6000 RPMs from 1st gear and the RPMs would drop to about 3800 (or something like that) into second. Stomping the gas after 30 MPG would force a shift into 2nd gear only, and the car would nearly fall flat on it's face; so much so that I could not pull away from a 4.7L Grand Cherokee. Now, with a bigger stall, I can shift at 6000, and my RPMs don't drop below 5300-5400, right in the meat of the powerband, and there are NO dead-spots to be found. I couldn't go WOT before getting past the 60' on street tires. DRs are a different story, but I think a good stall at the track can almost be as fun as a manual. I'd go out on a limb and say that it's more likely that stalled auto' would leap ahead of a manual car with the same mods', under most circumstances.

I won't even argue how much fun it is to drive a stick car. There's nothing like running down the track powershifting each gear; GGRRR...
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No way in hell it's sacrilage for a Camaro and an auto to be united. It's like gay marriage, an abomination in my eyes!
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Auto for me. Todays auto transmissions can be tuned to shift harder than a shift kit install, and having vvt with the auto is a huge bonus.
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Auto for me.
And it will be a nice upgrade over the A4 auto I had in my Fbody and currently have in my GTO. The 4A gears are way to spread out for good roll on performance (from all speeds).

The A6 should perform well at the track and on the street (roll ons).

And I can smoke a Mustang GT while eating a hamburger (try that manual guys). I also don't have to worry about missing a gear and over revving the motor (which guys do all the time at the track racing manuals).
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Auto for me, I have sciatica really bad and as much as I'd like a standard just can't do it. The thought of me in traffic with a standard would be just to painful. That being said I do think that contemporary auto transmissions are very good and do well against manuals, .2 seconds difference on the quarter mile realistically is boiled down to drivers skill, any misstep on shift gives it to the auto.
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Old 03-27-2009, 04:39 PM   #15
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do I need to say it? maybe I should just post up the discussion we had a year ago about this...
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I would have to say one thing. If your going for consistent times down the track. Same time every time. Then the automatic is the tranny for you. I think I would have an auto if I decided to do some bracket racing
I agree here, if you are bracket racing... the auto is the way to go...

I took my auto-4 down the track in highschool 15 seconds every time, without worry.
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No way in hell it's sacrilage for a Camaro and an auto to be united. It's like gay marriage, an abomination in my eyes!
You don't spend much time at the drag strip, do you.

Next time you do, take a peek inside all the cars that are pulling the wheels. Actually, take a peek inside all the cars that run in the single digits. Hell, all the cars under 10.50 I bet you 90% of them will have autos.
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You don't spend much time at the drag strip, do you.

Next time you do, take a peek inside all the cars that are pulling the wheels. Actually, take a peek inside all the cars that run in the single digits. Hell, all the cars under 10.50 I bet you 90% of them will have autos.
Yea but in an auto you're pretty much just along for the ride. You floor it and chill while the car takes care of everything. In a manual you're actually driving the car and it takes more skill to get good times.

That's just my opinion though. And I don't agree that it's sacrilege to get an auto because a lot of people live in places with a lot of heavy traffic and shifting gets to be a pain, to me it kinda just seems like taking the easy way out when racing.
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I've always had the most success at the dragstrip with my slushboxes. Also, stop and go rush hour traffic drives me crazy with my LS1 stick. I'd love to see them offer an SMG type of tranny. I'd be all over that! Then you couldn't call the automatics slushboxes anymore.
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I hate the term slushbox, reminds me too much of the old 50s and 60's automatics that would take forever to shift and were not very responsive. Today's Automatics are very technologically advanced and perform almost as crisply as any manual could.and with the manual mode are very controlable in situations that before a manual was only good for.. so Slushbox is an outdateed term and in my opinion does not fit anymore...



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No way in hell it's sacrilage for a Camaro and an auto to be united. It's like gay marriage, an abomination in my eyes!
if you want to have fun, get the manual.

if you want to win, get the auto.


if all you are doing is maybe once a month to the track (if that), manual hands down. but if you are going to race seriously, you'll want an auto.



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Yea but in an auto you're pretty much just along for the ride. You floor it and chill while the car takes care of everything. In a manual you're actually driving the car and it takes more skill to get good times.

That's just my opinion though. And I don't agree that it's sacrilege to get an auto because a lot of people live in places with a lot of heavy traffic and shifting gets to be a pain, to me it kinda just seems like taking the easy way out when racing.
in a stock auto.... yes, you are along for the ride. throw a stall in there, a shift kit, and a manual valve body and its no longer "mash the gas and go"

my 94Z is running a reverse manual valve body with a cheetah shifter. and while its still a "slushbox" I still shift each and every gear, just without a clutch.

have you ever ridden/driven a stalled vehicle? jw.
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You guys must not realize how impressive this automatic transmission is with tuning, and just how much fun it is to drive!
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