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Old 03-18-2009, 06:19 AM   #1
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Does Anyone know the added HP for Shortys, Catback & Air Intake upgrades???

I can't seem to find any information on what the added Horse Power will be for upgrading to the Shorty Headers, Catback Exhaust & the Air Intake. If anyone knows this, please share it. Thanks
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Old 03-18-2009, 06:41 AM   #2
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i would say 10-15 hp max. there not real agressive high performance parts.
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Old 03-18-2009, 06:42 AM   #3
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I would guess with all 3 add ons probably around 30HP or there abouts.
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Old 03-18-2009, 06:46 AM   #4
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yea, i could be a little low.
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Old 03-18-2009, 07:40 AM   #5
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I would say the shortys would be about 10 or so, the catback about 5 or so and the intake about 5 or so .. maybe 25 - 30 with all 3 installed.

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We have to wait until we get the car on the dyno. I will say that you'll want long tubes over short tubes even if they're not GMPP.
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30 untuned. 45 tuned
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When the car is tuned and say you are getting the 45 extra hp, will the mpg and torque numbers be affected?
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When the car is tuned and say you are getting the 45 extra hp, will the mpg and torque numbers be affected?
Torque will go up too. If you get 45 extra hp then torque should about 25-30 extra as well. But when you get more HP, will get burn more MPG. But not by much.

Also, you want more torque then HP. Torque is much more important then HP at this point. You WILL feel the torque then you would the HP.
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When the car is tuned and say you are getting the 45 extra hp, will the mpg and torque numbers be affected?
TQ will for sure .... as far as MPG .. it depends .. if it is Rich up top and they tune to lean it out some .. it is possible you could pick up a little MPG .. however .. if you drive it a bit harder because of your mods, you will probably loose some MPG .. lol

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A properly tuned car shouldn't loose MPG because a tuned car is efficient. It seems like (at least) GM tunes on the safe side, so the tunes seem to favor the rich side. Leaning them out a little should save a like gas, I'd think.

I think gains for these parts aren't going to be much more than 30 RWHP with a tune. I think the shorties are the greatest remaining restriction of these parts, but technically, I believe any car that moves the cats' from the OEM location is illegal anyways, and it's not possible to keep the cats' in their OEM locations with long tubes (LTs), so... Some people have to worry about this more than others, but if you don't have to content with strict smog laws, it would be pretty silly not to go with LTs. If I could I would...
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Old 03-18-2009, 04:44 PM   #12
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HP is go fast,
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Well I knew torque would go up but I was thinking a little more conservative with the numbers. Happy at the 25-30 guestamite. Also pretty positive mpg will stay pretty much the same
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Old 03-18-2009, 10:48 PM   #14
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Thanks for all the information guys. Do you think I'm too late to cancel my shorty headers? I ordered on 11-3-08 when i originaly ordered my car or should I just leave it as is? I thought that the shortys would be a better additon to go along with the catback and air intake. Any thoughts???
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Unless you are going to change them for the illegal long headers then no leave them on they will help with all 3 ad ons
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When the car is tuned and say you are getting the 45 extra hp, will the mpg and torque numbers be affected?
Don't forget you are improving this beasts ability to breath so throughput will increase but wiht that .....If the current ECM can make up the fuel air changes there will be a percentage of efficiency gained. You may have to get an aftermarket mapping to max efficiency. I made minor mods a couple of times to the old 350's and I noticed that a slight increase in mileage came wiht more grunt. Now, if you go for major mods to get high HP increases gas consumption outweighs efficiency.
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A properly tuned car shouldn't loose MPG because a tuned car is efficient. It seems like (at least) GM tunes on the safe side, so the tunes seem to favor the rich side. Leaning them out a little should save a like gas, I'd think.

I think gains for these parts aren't going to be much more than 30 RWHP with a tune. I think the shorties are the greatest remaining restriction of these parts, but technically, I believe any car that moves the cats' from the OEM location is illegal anyways, and it's not possible to keep the cats' in their OEM locations with long tubes (LTs), so... Some people have to worry about this more than others, but if you don't have to content with strict smog laws, it would be pretty silly not to go with LTs. If I could I would...
if you want to get technical california law states that you cannot modify your car at all. not even a simple CARB approved intake is allowed. thats if you want to be technical. i have no problem in moving the cats, its proven even w/ long tubes you can still pass the sniffer test, sure not visual but sniffer you can, and thats my biggest issue. If a car can blow clean then it should be legal on the street plain and simple. california is just to damn strict, and the laws contradict one another. they have carb approved parts and yet one cannot modify their car so their basically ripping off companies to get their parts CARB approved. thats good ol' california for you haha. still love the state. what other state can u drive an hour west get ocean and drive a hour east and get snow.
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what other state can u drive an hour west get ocean and drive a hour east and get snow.
Oregon and Washington

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lol true. water up here in norhtern ca is pretty cold, down in san diego is where the water gets nice. i love the central valley though, exept during the summer, 110 degree weather sux. i dont know how people handle hotter weather then that.
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if you want to get technical california law states that you cannot modify your car at all. not even a simple CARB approved intake is allowed. thats if you want to be technical. i have no problem in moving the cats, its proven even w/ long tubes you can still pass the sniffer test, sure not visual but sniffer you can, and thats my biggest issue. If a car can blow clean then it should be legal on the street plain and simple. california is just to damn strict, and the laws contradict one another. they have carb approved parts and yet one cannot modify their car so their basically ripping off companies to get their parts CARB approved. thats good ol' california for you haha. still love the state. what other state can u drive an hour west get ocean and drive a hour east and get snow.
Yeah - the California mod'... That is not one I'd recommend to anyone...
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When the car is tuned and say you are getting the 45 extra hp, will the mpg and torque numbers be affected?
There are only 2 ways to improve power, more torque or more revs. So if the tune isn't making the engine spin faster, its improving torque. So a tune will be to make more torque, the bonus is more power.
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Oregon and Washington...Sorry, I'm having a smart@$$ day lol
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Heard today that we can't pass the emission test in CA with the performance air option. Don't have to worry for 5 years but has anyone heard anything about this?
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Old 03-28-2009, 11:37 AM   #25
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well the car is choked bad with 2 cats 2 resonators and 2 mufflers lol. livernois dynod m6 it had like 364rwhp choked so id say a good set of 1 7/8long tubes (dont waste ur money with shorty's), a good 3inch catback (corsa, magnaflow, etc.), cia, pulley and a tune you should be 400+rwhp
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