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Old 07-15-2011, 08:37 AM   #1
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Exclamation Questions on TC/SC, there negative affects on the engine, and power train warranty!!!

I have a few questions concerning forced induction, its negative affects on an engine, and ways to get around the warranty. But first I just want to say I am new here and i don't have a whole lot of experience/knowledge in the world of performance upgrades. In other words, i'm just getting into the hobby. Sorry if thats a bit off-topic but i find that sometimes it helps to know what you are dealing with.

Anyways, with that being said, the vehicle in question is a 100% stock 2011 Camaro 2SS, manual tranny, and a hurst short throw. My questions:


What engine parts risk being damaged when adding a supercharger to a 100% stock LS3? Would a turbo be any different? What other performance upgrades should be made when adding a turbo or supercharger?

Are there any loopholes in getting around the power train warranty? Such as installing a bolt-on turbo or supercharger and removing it if you have to take the vehicle in to make a warranty claim?

As far as the computer goes, can you reset it back to factory settings without leaving any trace of it having ever been modified? If not, would it be possible to buy another computer, use that one with the SC or TC, and then if you have problems, reinstall the original?


Why I'm asking:I bought my camaro brand new 2 months ago. When i bought it, I made the stupidest, dumbest mistake and bought an extended warranty(I think it cost like 1,800). At the time I was so excited that I was actually going to own the car of my dreams that I hadn't put any thought into the fact that any performance upgrades might void the warranty. Anyway, any help would be much appreciated.

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Old 07-15-2011, 08:40 AM   #2
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Cancel the warranty and they will refund you a prorated amount.

Mod the car and kiss your factory warranty goodbye. No way around it, sorry.
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Old 07-15-2011, 09:53 AM   #3
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I will have to look into that. Also, I just remembered another detail. A few days after I brought the car home, I asked the dealer about the power train warranty and how it was affected if you modified the engine. He told me that if you made a claim, the warranty would be voided if it's proved the mod is related to the problem.
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Old 07-15-2011, 10:21 AM   #4
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Edelbrock sells a warranty for the powertrain if you install their S/C system...not sure about the others. Good luck.
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Old 07-15-2011, 10:32 AM   #5
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to answer some of your questions..

you cannot install and then take off a SC or turbo just for warrenty work...

no loopholes...

cannot tune and then remove tune for warrenty, they can tell...btw a SC or turbo also both require a tune (as does a cam), so even IF you removed your SC for something, the tune would still show up

ideally you would forge the bottom end for boost. stock bottom end can only take so much. i am in the same boat, and may- in a yr or so- throw a SC on there and not go crazy with the boost.
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Old 07-15-2011, 11:18 AM   #6
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Welcome to the board Tyler360... Like above - get a refund on extended warranty - Install a Magnuson TVS 2300 on the car and purchace the $750 - 100,000 mile warranty from Magnuson. But if you are like all of us other Gear Heads on here, you will want to exceed the limitations of Magnusons warranty as well. Good luck...
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Old 07-15-2011, 11:59 AM   #7
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Tyler360;3471628]I have a few questions concerning forced induction, its negative affects on an engine, and ways to get around the warranty. But first I just want to say I am new here and i don't have a whole lot of experience/knowledge in the world of performance upgrades. In other words, i'm just getting into the hobby. Sorry if thats a bit off-topic but i find that sometimes it helps to know what you are dealing with.
Welcome to the Community.

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Anyways, with that being said, the vehicle in question is a 100% stock 2011 Camaro 2SS, manual tranny, and a hurst short throw. My questions:


What engine parts risk being damaged when adding a supercharger to a 100% stock LS3? Would a turbo be any different? What other performance upgrades should be made when adding a turbo or supercharger?
Done Properly the car can be as reliable as any other brand new car on the road, we built hundreds of cars and trucks with superchargers over the last 20 years.

2 of my Personal vehicles are Supercharged one for 11 years and one for 7 years and I still beat the crap out of them.

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Are there any loopholes in getting around the power train warranty? Such as installing a bolt-on turbo or supercharger and removing it if you have to take the vehicle in to make a warranty claim?

As far as the computer goes, can you reset it back to factory settings without leaving any trace of it having ever been modified? If not, would it be possible to buy another computer, use that one with the SC or TC, and then if you have problems, reinstall the original?
No and that would be Fraud if you tried it.

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Why I'm asking:I bought my camaro brand new 2 months ago. When i bought it, I made the stupidest, dumbest mistake and bought an extended warranty(I think it cost like 1,800). At the time I was so excited that I was actually going to own the car of my dreams that I hadn't put any thought into the fact that any performance upgrades might void the warranty. Anyway, any help would be much appreciated.

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Definitely look in to a refund for this, An Extended warranty is better suited for a vehicle you will never touch and put more miles per year than allotted in the base warranty.

Not a good fit for a Pleasure vehicle.

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Old 07-15-2011, 02:50 PM   #8
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After the car is modded, bringing it back to the dealer is not usually the best idea anyway, it rarely seems to turn out well. Your best off to kiss the warranty away and take care of any problems yourself so you can beef up the car so it wont break again if it was too.
All in all they are very reliable even with making big power, so I wouldn't make it a huge concern unless your selling a kidney to buy the supercharger, that's not the best idea either.




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Old 07-15-2011, 04:06 PM   #9
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the big issue with boost

the biggest concern I have found is the drip, then stream, then torrential river of cash this addiction (hobby) engenders.

Seriously though, I worried for the 3000 miles I ran my stock engine on boost, though I had no problems whatsoever. I am now awaiting the car's return with numerous upgrades to make everything bulletproof. I suggest finding a reputable shop close to you and discuss your desires with the shop. Then, buy some wrinkle cream for the "crows feet" at the edges of your eyes that are caused by the permagrin
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Old 07-15-2011, 04:54 PM   #10
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I did the same thing with extended warranty and sold it back.Your payments will stay the same,the loan will just be paid off quicker.If I remember correctly,you have 3 months to do it before getting hit with surcharges for cancelling.
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