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Old 07-17-2011, 09:57 PM   #1
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Can't change Camaro tires youself.... Not "spare tire friendly"?

So I am in the process of ordering a 2012 2SS Camaro and was told that they do not come with a spare tire because apparently you can not put the spare tire on yourself anyway because the breaks are too big. This is concerning to me because Ive gotten many flat tires in my life and have grown accustomed to changing them myself without a problem... I'd actually be embarrassed if i had to call AAA/road side assistance just for a flat tire! They do offer the option to have a spare tire/wheel put in the trunk for an extra $150 or so, but if I will no be able to put the tire on myself I do not see the point in having it at all. So instead I guess they provide a patching kid. The problem is that if you end up damaging your tire severely enough then that "patch kit" won't help at all. I'd love to hear what other Camaro drivers have to say about this and if there is a way to change a flat tire yourself and to bypass the problem? And if there is not a way to bypass the problem then what other solutions are there?
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Old 07-17-2011, 10:06 PM   #2
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screw it ONSTAR i mean the frist 6 mouths are free but paying 300 a year YOU BET YOU A$$ IM CALLING THEM IF I GET A FLAT
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Old 07-17-2011, 10:10 PM   #3
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You can always do what I do, I carry a full size front wheel/tire in the trunk. I only carry a spare when I am traveling away from home. The spare that they offer on the V6 won't work because you need a spacer to clear the brakes on the SS.
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Old 07-17-2011, 10:10 PM   #4
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More and more cars are being built without a spare......

The good news? You have Chevrolet roadside assistance -we'll send someone out to take care of you!
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Old 07-17-2011, 10:21 PM   #6
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More and more cars are being built without a spare......

The good news? You have Chevrolet roadside assistance -we'll send someone out to take care of you!
love it i never used it for my camaro yet but have used it for my mom cavlior there awsome so is ONSTAR
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Old 07-17-2011, 10:23 PM   #7
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So your saying as long as I have a full size tire(mounted on a wheel) in my trunk then I CAN swap it myself? Thats exactly what I'm looking for.And that also seems preferable to only having a spare anyway. I much prefer to change my own tires in under 10 minutes instead of waiting around for for road side assistance to show up....


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You can always do what I do, I carry a full size front wheel/tire in the trunk. I only carry a spare when I am traveling away from home. The spare that they offer on the V6 won't work because you need a spacer to clear the brakes on the SS.
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Old 07-17-2011, 10:29 PM   #8
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If you're going to throw a full-size rim and tire in the trunk for peace of mind, don't forget a tire iron
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Old 07-17-2011, 10:30 PM   #9
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If you're going to throw a full-size rim and tire in the trunk for peace of mind, don't forget a tire iron
and a jack a nice heafty jack them POS ones they gave you SUCK i know from presonal expreince dont ask
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Old 07-17-2011, 11:28 PM   #10
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I put a spare on my self with no problems!
I took all 4 Tires off and had the car on stands to paint the caliper and put them back on with no problem and nothing happened to the brakes!
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Old 07-17-2011, 11:38 PM   #11
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The spare with a wheel large enough to clear the Brembo brakes will not fit in the well.
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Old 07-17-2011, 11:45 PM   #12
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Oh I didnt relize Brembo Brakes were bigger, lol sorry!
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Old 07-17-2011, 11:46 PM   #13
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The spare with a wheel large enough to clear the Brembo brakes will not fit in the well.
Do you want the best of both world you have to compromise , just loose some trunk space , YOU CAN'T ALWAYS GET ALL YOU WANT, or can you ?
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Old 07-18-2011, 12:27 AM   #14
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The spare with a wheel large enough to clear the Brembo brakes will not fit in the well.
A little research on this site and you can Find and Buy a spare tire to fit the SS with 20"....I'll give you all a hint because some are to lazy to look..E-bay or contact joe at dumars14892@yahho.com and tell him you need a spare tire kit for the SS Camaro. I called him on the 9th and had a spare in the trunk of my Camaro on the 15th.. I have peace of mind cause in parts of this state there is no cell service and no ONSTAR. Our local LEO's call in before they go to such areas, no cell,no computer and no radio they have to back track 3-7 miles to get service....Can't do that on a FLAT. When I did get ahold of Chevrolet/onstar it was 2 hours before they showed and the temps where pushing 100+.........Been there Done That, Oh and the spare does fit in the wheel well on the battery so I still can use my tunk space for rifles,ammo,food with 2 10" subs installed
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Old 07-18-2011, 12:45 AM   #15
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One more reason I love my 2LT.... I was mad enough when I found out I had to pay extra for an actual spare, but at least it was an option. Going on a road trip without a spare is a horrible idea, I wonder how many people don't even realize they don't have one.
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Old 07-19-2011, 12:31 AM   #17
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Wait what? We don't have a spare tire!!!!


































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Old 07-19-2011, 01:15 AM   #18
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So I am in the process of ordering a 2012 2SS Camaro and was told that they do not come with a spare tire because apparently you can not put the spare tire on yourself anyway because the breaks are too big. This is concerning to me because Ive gotten many flat tires in my life and have grown accustomed to changing them myself without a problem... I'd actually be embarrassed if i had to call AAA/road side assistance just for a flat tire! They do offer the option to have a spare tire/wheel put in the trunk for an extra $150 or so, but if I will no be able to put the tire on myself I do not see the point in having it at all. So instead I guess they provide a patching kid. The problem is that if you end up damaging your tire severely enough then that "patch kit" won't help at all. I'd love to hear what other Camaro drivers have to say about this and if there is a way to change a flat tire yourself and to bypass the problem? And if there is not a way to bypass the problem then what other solutions are there?




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Old 09-22-2011, 11:22 PM   #19
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The main thing (that most people don't realize) with the idea of a spare tire for the SS is lug nut torque. Let's say you get a flat and need to change the tire, our 20" wheels are torqued to 140 lbs/ft (basically a lot a lot). Now, to explain the importance of lug nut torque: imagine you're building a tree house for you kid, it's getting late and you cut corners by not putting braces underneath the floor. You figure "he's a little kid, it'll be fine". You're gambling your kids life because you "think" it'll be OK. If you don't torque your lug nuts to spec you risk having the wheel come off while driving (I imagine most people are getting a pretty gruesome mental image right now).

So that being said, to put on a spare tire on the SS you would need to have a torque wrench in the car with you. Specifically a torque wrench that goes up to 140 lbs/ft. I have one that goes to 200 (WAY more than I'll ever need but it was my only option), and that thing is about 3 feet long and weighs at least 5 pounds. Not very travel friendly.
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Old 09-22-2011, 11:45 PM   #21
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Regarding the need to have a huge torque wrench... I actually would not even bother because i am only planning to swap the tire and drive on it long enough to get the other tire repaired at the service station and then i'll just have them put the original tire back on and tighten the hell out of it with their giant torque wrench.

So now I need to find the best place to buy the full size tire and rim as well as the jack and reasonable wrench/Iron. Any suggestions??

I was told by the service department that I may be able to get away with getting a 19inch rim and tire even though i have all 20inch tires on my 2SS now.... since its just temporary anyway. What do you think about that? I figured it would be a bit smaller and easier to fit in the trunk as well(slightly anyway).
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Old 09-23-2011, 12:08 AM   #22
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been thinking of buying one LS wheel for my V6 1lt/rs is there any differnece between a ls wheel and 1lt/rs wheel.
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Regarding the need to have a huge torque wrench... I actually would not even bother because i am only planning to swap the tire and drive on it long enough to get the other tire repaired at the service station and then i'll just have them put the original tire back on and tighten the hell out of it with their giant torque wrench.

So now I need to find the best place to buy the full size tire and rim as well as the jack and reasonable wrench/Iron. Any suggestions??

I was told by the service department that I may be able to get away with getting a 19inch rim and tire even though i have all 20inch tires on my 2SS now.... since its just temporary anyway. What do you think about that? I figured it would be a bit smaller and easier to fit in the trunk as well(slightly anyway).
Again it's your car its your life. I personally wouldn't risk the "short" drive to a service station with only hand tightened lug nuts. You *can* get away with a 19" wheel, but I wouldn't recommend it. If you send a PM to SUX2BU he can tell you his set up. I believe he got a complete spare tire kit for his SS for around $180 ish.
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been thinking of buying one LS wheel for my V6 1lt/rs is there any differnece between a ls wheel and 1lt/rs wheel.
Well that depends. Does the LT come with the 18" heritage wheels or the 19" wheels? Because I wouldn't recommend running different size tires. If your LT has the RS package then you have 20" midnight silver wheels. I'd HIGHLY suggest NOT putting a 18" wheel on when the other tires are 20"
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Full sized front tire & wheel fits in the trunk. This plus AAA on a trip and your all set.
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