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Old 10-03-2007, 03:55 PM   #76
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I never knew. 600 hp 454 small block. Wow. and the LSX is capable of over 500 cu? I extremely doubt that this would ever make its way into production cars, even in a special limmited edition. But still, the thought . . .
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Old 10-14-2007, 12:55 PM   #77
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lol! FFWD to right around 31 sec's. Did she just say, "you'll have a choice between a v6 and 2 small block v8's?" see it here...
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Old 10-14-2007, 01:01 PM   #78
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...interesting...
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Old 10-14-2007, 01:35 PM   #79
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Bob Lutz say's that GM would have to offer a v6 for just over $20k and an affordable v8 under $30k. Now I doubt very seriously that this "affordable v8" will be able to handle Dodge's SRT-8 or Ford's GT500 engines, there's has to be one more v8 that will address this very real issue...

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Old 10-14-2007, 01:46 PM   #80
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Yes, there does have to be.

Currently, this is my thinking:
To hell with the V6's for this conversation, right now they don't matter.

Come 2009, I think we'll see 1 V8, I'm betting on the LS3(or Gen V equivilant). Don't underestimate this engine, though...It's an LS-series; I'm sure that with very minor modifications, it could eclipse a GT500.

But not very long afterwards, we get the monster: that is, the beast that everybody wants to compete with the GT500. It'll be out of the 20-30k price range, probably up towards 38-40k, and it won't be the LS7. More than likely, rather, a hi-po GenV, or the "LS9"(s/c LS3). I wouldn't be surprised to see Carbon-fiber body panels on the monster-model either.
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Old 10-14-2007, 11:36 PM   #81
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People have already modified the LS3 to pump out 700hp....no force fed nuthin'.
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Old 10-15-2007, 09:38 AM   #82
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That's right... and if it's that versatile then I can see a toned down vr. for the Z28 (436+ hp) and a nicely modded LS3 for the SS (500+ hp). That chick did say, "there will be 2 small block engines," perhaps she was eluding to the LS3, which is a small block... ahh I gotcha, honey

I know this is the LS7, but it's the same kind of hp the LS3 can make. cool vid anyway..

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...GT500 had to try, try, try, try again. He just kept fallin back and had to keep trying like his GT500 was going to miraculously gain an additional 20hp to overtake the vette.

On the the other hand....That GT was quite nice. Too bad it takes that Fords TT's to put down a Vette!!!:p
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Old 10-15-2007, 04:39 PM   #84
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Please... that gt already has a 48 hp advantage as it is!!! If he can't win even when things are in his favor-- I don't know what to tell ya. Maybe that gt ought to lose some weight.

Either way, the LS3 in this new Camaro should really make the Ford guys break out with a cold sweat. Here's some facts on The All New LS3 Engine
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Old 10-15-2007, 06:06 PM   #85
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I think the difference in the V-6's will be one will be a normal engine and the other will be a direct injection like on the CTS. I am hoping that the V-8 will be at least 420-450 hp and is called the Z28. If they bring annother V-8 out during later production I think it will just be some simple tuning like heads or pulleys maybe a chip, all stuff I think most of us can do in our garages.
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Old 10-15-2007, 06:45 PM   #86
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Please... that gt already has a 48 hp advantage as it is!!! If he can't win even when things are in his favor-- I don't know what to tell ya. Maybe that gt ought to lose some weight.
you mean the Mustang? Cause they both had 'GT' in their names...if so - how do you figure?
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Old 10-15-2007, 06:54 PM   #87
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Basing the info off of a stock ZO6- 505 hp.

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Old 10-15-2007, 07:16 PM   #88
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Okay...never mind

yeah...again...I don't read........:slice:
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Old 10-15-2007, 07:48 PM   #89
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shows how bloated the GT500 is. and a 900 hp Ford GT? Run a stock GT against a stock Z06 and then you have a good match.
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Old 11-04-2007, 01:57 AM   #90
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I can't wait! And the release isn't until January 09. The first ones will be produced in October 08. I'm the first one on the list at the main dealer near me. They've guaranteed me a V8 by the end of January 09.
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Old 12-05-2007, 07:38 AM   #91
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I'm no Fbodfather, but I would put good money on the following engine lineup:

Base V6 - 3.6 VVT (252 hp)

Alternate V6 - 3.6 VVT DI (300 hp)

V8 - Same V8 that will be in the Pontiac G8 GT (360 hp)

For my money, I'd get the DI'd 3.6 with the same hp that was in the last 4th gen 5.7 V8! Get it with a 6 speed, save some on insurance and gas, and still have one sweet Camaro.
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Old 12-05-2007, 07:59 AM   #92
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I would add the LS3, but that looks pretty good
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Old 12-05-2007, 09:12 AM   #93
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yep. though I'd change one thing...check this out:
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In terms of MSRP, GM sources told the magazine a V6 model will retail from $21,000. It will feature a 3.9-liter powerplant with a six speed automatic or manual
btw, the only 3.9's GM has right now are VVT... and the one in the Impala pushes out 233hp.
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233hp for a base V6 isn't all that much. With VVT, it isn't a bad option. But, I'd much rather have a V6 with 250-300 and VVt as a base. Let's make the buying public who can't afford the insurance or the big V8 at least happy w/ the V6. That's how you are going to sell 100K of these a year.
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233hp for a base V6 isn't all that much. With VVT, it isn't a bad option. But, I'd much rather have a V6 with 250-300 and VVt as a base. Let's make the buying public who can't afford the insurance or the big V8 at least happy w/ the V6. That's how you are going to sell 100K of these a year.
That would be true if they weren't going to have 2 V6s. The 3.9 would be the base economy v6 while the higher horse one would be the performance v6.
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Old 12-05-2007, 01:24 PM   #96
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That would be true if they weren't going to have 2 V6s. The 3.9 would be the base economy v6 while the higher horse one would be the performance v6.
That's what I was thinking...assuming, of course, that there will be 2 V6's.
(Everything is subject to change)
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I'm no Fbodfather, but I would put good money on the following engine lineup:

Base V6 - 3.6 VVT (252 hp)

Alternate V6 - 3.6 VVT DI (300 hp)

V8 - Same V8 that will be in the Pontiac G8 GT (360 hp)

For my money, I'd get the DI'd 3.6 with the same hp that was in the last 4th gen 5.7 V8! Get it with a 6 speed, save some on insurance and gas, and still have one sweet Camaro.
I'm with you on that one. 300 hp is definitely a great start.
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For my money, I'd get the DI'd 3.6 with the same hp that was in the last 4th gen 5.7 V8! Get it with a 6 speed, save some on insurance and gas, and still have one sweet Camaro.
I'm sure the DI 3.6 will be a good performer but I wouldn't bet on seeing it putting down 290-300 rwhp stock like the (significantly underrated) fourth gen V8 did, even though it has a similar peak hp rating. The difference in torque will be even more pronounced.
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