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Old 09-23-2007, 11:05 PM   #52
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Don't be surprised if the opposite of what you said occurs. They showed us a 400 hp Concept. They said, "this is what the top-of-the-line would be". Then Our friend Ed Peper said this during an interview for Autoblog:
They can't hand us a Camaro with less than 400hp (It'd be the worlds biggest WTF?!? moment)...

More power does not neccesarily cost more money. As engines advance you get more power for the same price. Check out the LS series:
LS-1 +/- 350hp.
LS-2 400hp
LS-3 430(6) hp

And all those engines cost about 7k by themselves in their time.
and they're not worried about stepping on the Vette (I'm not saying they will, though). So... I just spurt out what I read. Not trying to be an ass.:p

pluuuuuuuuuus, the camaro engines are derived from the corvette engines. the vette comes out with a new engine, then the next year the camaro gets a detuned version of the same engine. throw a tune at it and you've got vette hp!

but as a general rule

FAST
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pick 2.
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:30 PM   #53
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Nice addition to your sig, my friend...LMAO,
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:37 PM   #54
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Nice addition to your sig, my friend...LMAO,
I just thought it was funny

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I'm not an expert on these things, but it seems like historically the Camaro has often as not recieved a corvette engine that is a year or two old for use in the top Camaro. so its not as if it would be shocking to hear that the camaro gets the LS3 at 430 hp. Also, I have read in some mag a few months ago (ie don't take this too seriously) that the guys working on the Camaro are NOT worried about the 425 hp 6.1L hemi in the Challenger. Take that how you want
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I'm not an expert on these things, but it seems like historically the Camaro has often as not recieved a corvette engine that is a year or two old for use in the top Camaro. so its not as if it would be shocking to hear that the camaro gets the LS3 at 430 hp. Also, I have read in some mag a few months ago (ie don't take this too seriously) that the guys working on the Camaro are NOT worried about the 425 hp 6.1L hemi in the Challenger. Take that how you want
yup yup yup


they did say they werent/arent worried about the challenger

look at it this way

Challenger
425hp 4000lbs

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430hp ~3680lbs
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:42 AM   #57
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I also heard a person named 'Scott', whoever that is mention to some folks complaining that they needn't worry. "Class leading acceleration, and overall performance" are part of the equation they're putting together.

So. being the follower I am. I believe it.
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:43 AM   #58
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Back on the topic of only having one V8 (dragons??? engine swaps on a car that hasn't been built???), that will only be at initial launch and it will not have the 425-450 hp so many believe. I would estimate 375-400 hp. The Camaro won't have the same or more power than the Corvette that costs 50% more. Power costs money and if they want to price it below $30,000 to start, it won't have as much power as an SRT-8 Hemi. Besides, the Corvette always gets the best stuff first as performance flagship, so once the Stingray (Blue Devil, or whatever) comes out, the power and technology will trickle down.

The old 4th gens had roughly the same power, much closer than the ratings from the factory. GM understated it by a lot. A number of people noticed it after they dynoed their cars.
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:45 AM   #59
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I can only imagine the smug looks on people's faces...360, 370? WTF??!?! I mean, yeah...pretty sweet, huh?

I wonder if the Insurance companies ever cought on, or do they have to strictly go by what the manufacturer says, unless you report a modification?
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I can only imagine the smug looks on people's faces...360, 370? WTF??!?! I mean, yeah...pretty sweet, huh?

I wonder if the Insurance companies ever cought on, or do they have to strictly go by what the manufacturer says, unless you report a modification?
who does that?
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Old 09-24-2007, 07:54 AM   #61
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I don't know...but I put it out there anyways. Kinda like saying...obey the highway speed limit.... yeah right!
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Old 09-26-2007, 02:12 PM   #62
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I'll take a Camaro in any V-8 form they give us. After all we are what ever they want to call us. Auto enthusiasts, hot rodders, what ever. we will do what we currently do. Take a great car use after market parts and technology and make a better car. Look at what has been done with 3rd and 4th gen Camaros. If it wasn't for what we do, the SEMA industry and the show wouldn't be what it is. THEY know what we want and will certainly give it to us. We are their bread and butter. Good things come to those who wait!
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Good things come to those who wait!
Well, for the amount of time we're all having to wait, this better be one great vehicle!

Nah, I'm not worried though. As great as I'm expecting this car to be, I know that I'll be surprised at how much better it is than I could have ever imagined.
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Well, for the amount of time we're all having to wait, this better be one great vehicle!
no doubt, for the amount that we've been waiting, they should release a Bumblebee version that actually transforms.
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mark my words there will be a limited version of the camaro with the 7.0 liter
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Old 10-02-2007, 12:12 PM   #66
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mark my words there will be a limited version of the camaro with the 7.0 liter
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That would be a dream come true! That'd be the one I'd want...but sure it would be around $40k in price which I couldn't afford...:(
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ZL-1 would be sweet, but the original ZL1's were double the price. I don't think I'd pay 60-70k for one. I'd rather buy a Z28 and make it faster for less cash.
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No there wont. 7.0L is history after 08.
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