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Old 03-20-2009, 12:18 PM   #29
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Haha all this is is disinformation. They tell you this so everyone will go out and buy Camaros when they launch making the car succesfull. They tell you it isnt coming so they can launch it, get it? If GM said now; hey the Z/28 is coming next year! Everyone would hold off on it and current sales of Camaro wouldnt be where they need to thus killing off the Z/28 for sure and maybe even the Camaro itself.

The Camaro in this economy and green movement isnt exactly the most Politicaly Correct car out right now, if this thing so much as farts wrong it could be gone.
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Old 03-20-2009, 12:25 PM   #30
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Haha all this is is disinformation. They tell you this so everyone will go out and buy Camaros when they launch making the car succesfull. They tell you it isnt coming so they can launch it, get it? If GM said now; hey the Z/28 is coming next year! Everyone would hold off on it and current sales of Camaro wouldnt be where they need to thus killing off the Z/28 for sure and maybe even the Camaro itself.

The Camaro in this economy and green movement isnt exactly the most Politicaly Correct car out right now, if this thing so much as farts wrong it could be gone.
We have to change the perception that the Camaro is a throw-back from yesteryear. This car is as politically correct as my brothers 3 series Bimmer (sorry Scott, I tried). I don't see people giving those guys a hard time.

With respect to GM not selling the Z so everyone can buy the SS - Not very many people will be willing to pay for a car like the one planned. It will have it's own target market.
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Old 03-20-2009, 12:29 PM   #31
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I'm still on the "not now, but maybe later" bandwagon... The problem for me is "maybe later" might be too long for me to wait....
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Old 03-20-2009, 03:16 PM   #32
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+1 - that's why I'm buying now.
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Haha all this is is disinformation. They tell you this so everyone will go out and buy Camaros when they launch making the car succesfull. They tell you it isnt coming so they can launch it, get it? If GM said now; hey the Z/28 is coming next year! Everyone would hold off on it and current sales of Camaro wouldnt be where they need to thus killing off the Z/28 for sure and maybe even the Camaro itself.

The Camaro in this economy and green movement isnt exactly the most Politicaly Correct car out right now, if this thing so much as farts wrong it could be gone.
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We have to change the perception that the Camaro is a throw-back from yesteryear. This car is as politically correct as my brothers 3 series Bimmer (sorry Scott, I tried). I don't see people giving those guys a hard time.

With respect to GM not selling the Z so everyone can buy the SS - Not very many people will be willing to pay for a car like the one planned. It will have it's own target market.
Let's justify Camaro with selling the models available now and see how she does. It'd be a shame to throw away the ideas of either of the cars, not to mention the time and money, but I don't think anyone outside of GM really knows the truth. Let's just get you guys the cars you ordered

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I'm still on the "not now, but maybe later" bandwagon... The problem for me is "maybe later" might be too long for me to wait....
Too long that we'll have a hybrid Z28 that has a 2.5L 5-cylinder that runs on bug crap; OH WAIT... that's the Z28 available to California
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Too long that we'll have a hybrid Z28 that has a 2.5L 5-cylinder that runs on bug crap; OH WAIT... that's the Z28 available to California
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Old 03-20-2009, 03:58 PM   #34
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I'm a selfish prick. Please forgive me.

But I kinda hope it's years before they do either so I don't have to regret buying early.
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Old 03-20-2009, 04:09 PM   #35
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I'm a selfish prick. Please forgive me.

But I kinda hope it's years before they do either so I don't have to regret buying early.
The 'vert is coming - you can bank on that. And anyone buying an SS now might get good resale value if CAFE get's their way on future MPG averages.
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Old 03-20-2009, 05:45 PM   #36
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Thanks GM. Next time you ask for a bailout go **** yourself.

If they are not going to follow through on in demand halo cars, they are better off in the trash heap of failed businesses.
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Old 03-20-2009, 10:08 PM   #37
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Thanks GM. Next time you ask for a bailout go **** yourself.

If they are not going to follow through on in demand halo cars, they are better off in the trash heap of failed businesses.
are you serious?

for one... they weren't 'bailed out.' they were given a loan; one with a soon-coming repayment plan.

as for "following through on in-demand halo cars" - they built this car up from the ground & released it in 3 years. that's faster than any car on a whole new platform. one thing that made it seem longer is the fact that we knew more info than ever before during the pre-production phases. another note about following through is the fact that without knowing all the differences, you'd almost mistake the production car for the concept that everyone fell in love with. that's a rare occurrence in the automotive world.

with the convertible (and more than likely the Z28) they had planned on a later release anyway. wheh the financial crisis hit, it only delayed the plans a bit further than they already had been. considering the fact that they had a pre-production convertible in plain sight during the 3/16 celebration, that shows that they're making progress on it & still don't mind letting us know that it's alright.

maybe you should do a little more research before coming out with accusations like that... especially in a place where people keep up with the topic you're griping about.
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Old 03-20-2009, 10:21 PM   #38
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are you serious?

for one... they weren't 'bailed out.' they were given a loan; one with a soon-coming repayment plan.

as for "following through on in-demand halo cars" - they built this car up from the ground & released it in 3 years. that's faster than any car on a whole new platform. one thing that made it seem longer is the fact that we knew more info than ever before during the pre-production phases. another note about following through is the fact that without knowing all the differences, you'd almost mistake the production car for the concept that everyone fell in love with. that's a rare occurrence in the automotive world.

with the convertible (and more than likely the Z28) they had planned on a later release anyway. wheh the financial crisis hit, it only delayed the plans a bit further than they already had been. considering the fact that they had a pre-production convertible in plain sight during the 3/16 celebration, that shows that they're making progress on it & still don't mind letting us know that it's alright.

maybe you should do a little more research before coming out with accusations like that... especially in a place where people keep up with the topic you're griping about.



THANK YOU

how could you say you want whole company to go under becuz they can't afford to build a 'vert right now ?
THEY JUST CAME OUT WITH A WHOLE NEW #%@ CAR THAT THEY RESURRECTED AND BUILT TO OUTPERFORM THE COMPETITION, AND YOUR GONNA CURSE THEM??
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This photo popped up in motor trend's april issue while they were questioning the idea.
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It also looks like it will be used in this year's transformers.
http://www.chevrolet.com/allnewcamar...#camaro=videos
(the second video)
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http://image.motortrend.com/f/147900...front_view.jpg

This photo popped up in motor trend's april issue while they were questioning the idea.
that's just a crock of... speculation
it's been covered many times here
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13621

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It also looks like it will be used in this year's transformers.
http://www.chevrolet.com/allnewcamar...#camaro=videos
(the second video)
the transformers 2 cars are just the reused ones from the first movie with new hoods, wheels, & body panels. and they're just 04 GTOs with concept bodies
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Maybe Senator Dodd can write in loophole in the stimulus for z-28 funding, it does seem far more important than getting AIG bonuses and look what he got them.
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I'm still on the "not now, but maybe later" bandwagon... The problem for me is "maybe later" might be too long for me to wait....
I'm on the 'now' plan cause life is short... and there's soooo many things I want to do.

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are you serious?

for one... they weren't 'bailed out.' they were given a loan; one with a soon-coming repayment plan.

as for "following through on in-demand halo cars" - they built this car up from the ground & released it in 3 years. that's faster than any car on a whole new platform. one thing that made it seem longer is the fact that we knew more info than ever before during the pre-production phases. another note about following through is the fact that without knowing all the differences, you'd almost mistake the production car for the concept that everyone fell in love with. that's a rare occurrence in the automotive world.

with the convertible (and more than likely the Z28) they had planned on a later release anyway. wheh the financial crisis hit, it only delayed the plans a bit further than they already had been. considering the fact that they had a pre-production convertible in plain sight during the 3/16 celebration, that shows that they're making progress on it & still don't mind letting us know that it's alright.

maybe you should do a little more research before coming out with accusations like that... especially in a place where people keep up with the topic you're griping about.

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