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Old 03-20-2009, 11:03 AM   #1
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Camaro SS vs Challenger SRT8

BONE STOCK , should this be dead even ? OR will the Camaro have a slight advantage due to weight and the extra horse ? Not starting a flame war just wondering how this race would go down !!!!

I can take a loss trust me , just haven't had many !!! (Besides a lambo on I-95)
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Old 03-20-2009, 11:06 AM   #2
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This has been debated many times! The SS should win but it is all benchracing until we get our hands on it!
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Old 03-20-2009, 11:09 AM   #3
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Sorry for the repost. I hope my K/N drop in added another horse !!! I was "PISSED" to find out the Camaro has 426 HP! !!!!! (all good guys)
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Old 03-20-2009, 11:11 AM   #4
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Silver congradulations on the Cobalt SS . I really wanted one it's the most underrated car in history IMHO.
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Old 03-20-2009, 11:17 AM   #5
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No problem on the repost, nbd, and I am sure it will get alot of replies.
It oughta be interesting and fun when these 2 cars are out on the streets and track together. It is all good and fun! Thanks! I love the cobalt and it will be hard to give it up, but not that hard . It is a sleeper for sure, and very capable, but to be honest, it is cavalier lookin and that is something that never grew on me. I am looking so forward to the Camaro it is making me nuts. Not much longer and I will have the complete package. I am sure that you understand this because you have that Chally SRT8. Very nice!

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Old 03-20-2009, 11:23 AM   #6
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you know what, it'll be a fun race
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Old 03-20-2009, 11:32 AM   #7
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Rudy...out of curiousity how old are you?
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Old 03-20-2009, 11:34 AM   #8
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Old 03-20-2009, 11:44 AM   #9
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now everyone knows I'm a GM fanboy at times, but I have to defend the SRT8 and say that this race is going to be a close one... the Camaro has the better power to weight ratio but the Challenger has some incredibly short gears out back... at the track, that's going to be hard to overcome, as the jump off the line and the access to torque and horsepower will give it an edge.

my prediction is that the Camaro will come out on top at the track, but with one wrong shift, the SRT8 is the winner.
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now everyone knows I'm a GM fanboy at times, but I have to defend the SRT8 and say that this race is going to be a close one... the Camaro has the better power to weight ratio but the Challenger has some incredibly short gears out back... at the track, that's going to be hard to overcome, as the jump off the line and the access to torque and horsepower will give it an edge.

my prediction is that the Camaro will come out on top at the track, but with one wrong shift, the SRT8 is the winner.
I won't be a big gap, it any. Very close on power and weight isn't far off. We get six-speed trannys, but I think it'll come down to the driver every time.
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Old 03-20-2009, 12:08 PM   #11
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Sorry but I have to say this.

MY RT is an execptional RT. No one at my dealership/mechanics can understand WHY its not like the other RT's. It feels so much more powerful than any other RT's even at STOCK. Possibly a pilot car.

Anyway, I have raced (sorry) several STR8 and I have to say it I whipped the odd ones and lost by a narrow margin to others.

In my oppinion the SRT8 will NOT beat the SS EVER!!

I'm not that impressed by STOCK SRT8's.
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So very true guys. This will be a race between drivers and maybe rubber. Some Drag Radials should help a lot cause the hole is going to decide the race. Hmmmmm. where are all the mustang guys at when talking about stock vs stock and a race....
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Old 03-20-2009, 12:10 PM   #13
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I won't be a big gap, it any. Very close on power and weight isn't far off. We get six-speed trannys, but I think it'll come down to the driver every time.
Never going to get into 4th or 5th at the track...Just barely into 3rd at 111MPH.
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Old 03-20-2009, 12:11 PM   #14
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The mustang guys are stuck back at the starting line. LOL
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Old 03-20-2009, 12:32 PM   #15
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Sorry but I have to say this.

MY RT is an execptional RT. No one at my dealership/mechanics can understand WHY its not like the other RT's. It feels so much more powerful than any other RT's even at STOCK. Possibly a pilot car.

Anyway, I have raced (sorry) several STR8 and I have to say it I whipped the odd ones and lost by a narrow margin to others.

In my oppinion the SRT8 will NOT beat the SS EVER!!

I'm not that impressed by STOCK SRT8's.

What are you talking about my brother ? Your saying your 5.7 with 370hp beat an SRT8 ? Kind of impossible in my opinion for a lower trim to beat a higher trim. Who knows maybe someone will have a V6 that is "Execpetional" , but to be frank. I don't know why you are not impressed with Stock SRT's they are amazing top of the line American cars as well as the SS. I am sorry I am going to agree to disagree with you brother
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The mustang guys are stuck back at the starting line. LOL
I don't know what your talking about, I smoked an SRT8 at the track back when my mustang was stock.
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where are all the mustang guys at when talking about stock vs stock and a race....
I'm still waiting for the competition to catch up. Guess I'll have to keep waiting...
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Old 03-20-2009, 01:52 PM   #18
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There's no way an R/T would ever beat an SRT8 without modifications. If I ever lost a race to an R/T I'd cryy
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i think he has a magnum rt guys
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Old 03-20-2009, 02:33 PM   #20
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I read that the G8 is faster then the SRT8 Charger , don't know about Challenger but I would assume it's faster then the Challenger SRT8 also by a little so I AM HOPING it's a drivers race but from the research i've done ... the SS should get me by a nost but I am hoping we can all run 12.9's stock.
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Old 03-20-2009, 03:27 PM   #21
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We will know soon enough, but I'd say that the Camaro will have a slight edge. But a good driver in the Chally will more than make up for any advantage the Camaro has.

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Never going to get into 4th or 5th at the track...Just barely into 3rd at 111MPH.
I could've swore I read in a GMHTP review that the G8 went into 4th or 5th. I'd have to look again though...
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Challenger weighs several hundred pounds more and that is the difference. It's also why the SRT-8 gets stuck with the gas guzzler tax when the same HP Camaro does not.

It also costs a lot more, although Dodge has found it can't sell them for sticker any more and are having to give discounts.
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Challenger weighs several hundred pounds more and that is the difference. It's also why the SRT-8 gets stuck with the gas guzzler tax when the same HP Camaro does not.

It also costs a lot more, although Dodge has found it can't sell them for sticker any more and are having to give discounts.

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