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Old 03-26-2009, 11:13 AM   #26
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Do you guys find it funny, that when ever someone gets hold of a v6 RS, they suddenly just call it an RS? Like its kind of a v6 thing only? I wonder what they would say with an SS/RS
Ijust thought it was funny
Sadly, at least one of the salesmen at my nearest Chevy dealer is one of those folks. I asked him what kind of pricing they were going to offer on Camaros, and he asked me "V8 or RS?"

Fortunately I know there's at least one guy there who does know about the car, so I'll be going to him instead.
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Old 03-26-2009, 11:18 AM   #27
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Who joins a camaro site to bash a car? Actually, it wasn't like that at all. I've been following these threads for some time. I got an email directing me here and in the very first thread it says:
By Chevrolet's admission, the new Camaro must do more than compete with so-called pony cars--a.k.a Ford's Mustang and Dodge's Challenger. It must reach past aging muscle car enthusiasts to thrive. Chevrolet insists it will do that by chasing buyers who might otherwise choose a Honda Civic Si, a Scion tC or even a Hyundai Genesis Coupe. But most of that work must be done by the Camaro LS and LT.

I had my heart set on purchasing two camaros - one for my son and one for myself. He is in his 20s and wants a ricer - fine... I was just responding to the very first entry here. For someone in his 20s or 30s I'm sure they would purchase this on emotion. For someone in his 50s, I was purchasing for an entirely different reason. I was looking for a well-built retro looking car. I simply told you why I have decided not to buy one. Money is not an issue as I am financially retired. For me, it was a matter of what I would call 50ish male common sense. I looked at the thought process that went into the car and was not impressed. I have owned a lot of cars and I don't care who makes them or where they're made (camaro is assembled in canada and I think many of the engines are made in Mexico). But to see the weight problem, the tire issues (that had to be made by a committee as no one person could be that stupid), the battery location, modifying the cylinders in the V8 to add VCM capabilities, no spare tire... the list was just too long for me to overlook. For those who do purchase the vehicle, I wish them nothing but the best. I own a CTS with the 3.6 and I love it. I wish it had the additional horsepower of the camaro.
WELCOME to the site, and I hope you stay (and change your mind about the new Camaro )

I'm not sure I understand why you dislike some of the things you listed in your first post. There's nothing that could've been done with the weight, except use exotic materials (i.e. titanium, magnesium, carbon fiber, etc.) and that would've driven up cost past the demographic it is my understanding GM is trying to attract with this car. Why is the battery in the trunk a bad thing? It's better for weight distribution, and why is it a problem that there needs to be more room in the engine compartment? The modifications the the AFM are mostly limited to the valvetrain (mostly the cam, lifters, lifter valley) and PCM - what's wrong with that? It can be tuned out, but why would one want that unless it makes something else work less efficient? I can see the spare tire-thing though; that fix-a-flat's onyl going to get you so far, LOL. I love the idea on an aluminum hood, especially since the weight is the way it is.

All I know is they're you reasons, and hey, you'd be paying for the car, and if you're not happy with it, why have it? It's just not right for you.

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A troll....or a jerk...take your pick. I never have and never will visit another car forum to make demeaning comments. Waste of time.
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I don't post much on this forum, but I read it all the time. There are a large number of people on this forum who get their panties in a bunch when someone mentions something slightly negative about the new Camaro. I'm really getting tired of everyone bashing someone that has a disenting view. Some of you guys need to lay off the Kool Aide. You're drinking way too much. This is coming from a 54 year old guy who has owned more than a view F bods.
You know, although I can agree with some points to a degree, this IS a Camaro site, and I think the majority of people here really like it and I don't think it's unexpected to get some of these reactions. I can see the point about only posting for the first time to show gripes or dislikes about the car and what that looks like, but this community needs to get back to finding mutual respect for everyone.

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I dont think there is anything wrong with making a informed purchase. Using what you know instead of emotion is a good thing. This is part of why i am getting a V6 instead of V8 the 6 is better for me, but my emotion wants an 8. That being said remember something about the weight of the car, has to do with the new safety standards coming into play in a few years and cars will have to be safer= more metal=more weight. There are alot of things that manipulate the auto industry CAFE etc. Just remember GM didnt have to make the Camaro again, they chose to and there will be problems with any car and especially one we all love. So good luck on your import, and the man has every right to complain etc, thats why we are on this forum, to talk about how we feel good or bad. For me I cant wait to have my Camaro.
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Old 03-26-2009, 11:28 AM   #28
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I don't see it as disrespectful at all. Maybe old-fashioned and maybe just have a different set of values when it comes to buying a car or spending my money. If it were not for the issues I mentioned (issues that are important to me, but perhaps not to others) I would buy a camaro for myself. I owned an 07 GT mustang and it was a great car. I almost bought a shelby last year, but bought a cts instead - at the request of the misses. My son wants a hyundai genesis coupe - although I am particular about how I spend my money and it hurts to the bone to buy a hyundai, I will honor his wants. But that is why there are so many brands - we all have different tastes. I wish the camaro enthusiasts lots of luck. I owned a 327/250 hp camaro a long time ago and would give my cts for it in a heartbeat.

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Old 03-26-2009, 11:55 AM   #29
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You may need to add me to the list of "defectors". I went to a dealer and had a lengthy discussion. They didn't seem well informed on getting one. I gave it a lot of thought..... GM is several years late on the muscle car entry. The car got so heavy they had to make the hood out of aluminum. The engine compartment got so crowded they had to put the battery in the trunk. And the "packages" and tire sizes! What were they thinking? Why so many different sizes and why the ones they selected? Did they look at how much those tires cost to replace? To get an SS you get two different sized tire sizes and can't even rotate them. Want the spoiler on the V6? If so, it's $1450 because you have to take a bunch of other stuff that you may or may not want. Don't want the spoiler on the V8? Too bad - you're taking it anyway. I have driven the chevy trucks with the VCM and don't want anything to do with that - thus no V8 if I want my wife to drive the car (she can't drive a manual tranny). So for this 51 year old man who was REALLY looking forward to the camaro - a camaro that I believe looks better than those of the 60s - I think I'm going to pass. As much as I don't want to do it, it's probably going to be another import. Sorry. I really did want one, but not like this.
I don't know where to start ...

In fact ... I won't ... It makes me too tired.

Why different tire sizes? Why an aluminum hood? Wife can't drive a manual?

PLEASE by a civic ....
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Old 03-26-2009, 12:11 PM   #30
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some people are so odd .. or should i say different than me?

I have a customer who's a self-described car guy ... who talked about the RX8 for years ... had it on order forever. We talked about it every time we got together (I have a 3rd gen rx7) and then I saw him a while back and he had taken delivery, driven it for a year and traded it in on an acura because he wasn't getting the advertised mpg that mazda had promised and it pissed him off?

I think they had claimed it would get 27 and he was only getting low 20s!

Who buys a performance car and then trades it in because of 5 MPG?

Who buys a $35,000 car like the new Camaro and gets upset because they won't be able to rotate the tires ...

It boggles my mind.
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Old 03-26-2009, 12:33 PM   #31
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WELCOME to the site, and I hope you stay (and change your mind about the new Camaro )

You know, although I can agree with some points to a degree, this IS a Camaro site, and I think the majority of people here really like it and I don't think it's unexpected to get some of these reactions. I can see the point about only posting for the first time to show gripes or dislikes about the car and what that looks like, but this community needs to get back to finding mutual respect for everyone.
I am fine with his posting with a couple negative comments, that was NOT bashing. Many of us that have been on this forum for a while, and remember this is a FORUM, have made negative comments about the car and even each other.

The man simply stated a few dislikes and why he may not get a Camaro. Remember all the complaints about no HUD, people said they would cancel and buy something else? The same with the Onstar antanae. The same with ABL. Same thing with CGM, the list goes on. Give the guy a break, He simply stated his thoughts.

I'm with you Radz, welcome to the site, there are alternative ways to get just the options you want on the aftermarket. If you like the Camaro but not some of the options, buy one and build it to your tastes.
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Old 03-26-2009, 12:40 PM   #32
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This might be slightly off topic, but with regards to the battery being in the trunk (I had no idea about that lol) and the space in engine compartment, I was very impressed to see that there is room in there to work around (i could actually see the ground beneath the car). A lot of cars these days have particularity small engine compartments. Look at the late model Honda civic, I saw one in a mall once with the hood popped and stood their scratching my head trying to figure out how they even fit everything in there.

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Old 03-26-2009, 12:50 PM   #33
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I have a customer who's a self-described car guy ... who talked about the RX8 for years ... had it on order forever. We talked about it every time we got together (I have a 3rd gen rx7) and then I saw him a while back and he had taken delivery, driven it for a year and traded it in on an acura because he wasn't getting the advertised mpg that mazda had promised and it pissed him off?

I think they had claimed it would get 27 and he was only getting low 20s!

Who buys a performance car and then trades it in because of 5 MPG?
Well, a lot of folks are getting 14MPG with that car, so I can see his point. I hope that 27MPG number was from the old EPA standards. There's no way an RX8 gets that.
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Old 03-26-2009, 12:53 PM   #34
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A lot of cars these days have particularity small engine compartments. Look at the late model Honda civic, I saw one in a mall once with the hood popped and stood their scratching my head trying to figure out how they even fit everything in there.
Ha! You aint kiddin mates. You should have seen me installing a cold air intake on mine. It was hysterical. I would have killed for the battery to be in the trunk.
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