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Old 03-30-2012, 11:06 PM   #301
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......ooohhhhhhh, now I get it, you mean that Z/28...........LOL...
Did you mention in another thread you were waiting til MY2013 to order a Z.............L1?
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I have one...if not now, when?
FACTS...as we currently know them (in no particular order):

1) "We are NOT done..." fbodfather...and I take him/them at their word.

2) Gen-5 Camaro soldiers on, with a refresh, for MY '13-'14-'15...so there IS "time".

3) "ZEE needs more n/a bhp"...general (or is that "General"?) concensus.

4) Gen-4 SBCs (current LS-family) are time-limited...new Vette, and new family of Trucks, are neigh, which account for 75%+ of LS-based usage.

5) Wixom's OEM future: If the dry LS3/LS7/LS9 ALL "disappear", post-C6, then what?

6) Camaro has enjoyed early/unique engines in the past: 350 (1st use), 302 (unique)

7) Z28 (or Z/28) is a truly hallowed name/brand...NO QUESTION!

Questions to be considered (again, in no specific order) and answered:

A) What initial SALES volume will the 6-speed-only 1LE enjoy? Or will its limitation to 3-pedal-only status dwindle demand?

B) Based on the 1LE's actual sales, how much volume is there for something even MORE "serious"?

C) Priced from $40-45K (1SS/2SS/Options), is there "room" below the $54-60K ZL1 for "something else"?

D) For the SAME inve$tment, is/are there version(s) of Gen-5 Camaros more fully capable of expanding Market Share/Profits? "Dusk" (as BOTH an LT and SS) and a "V6 1LE" come to mind...

OK, folks, now that I've played "The Team", YOU play "Mark Reuss"...
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Old 03-31-2012, 01:05 PM   #303
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Well historically, Z/28s have never really been lighter than any other Camaro. Take first gens, the only reason a Z/28 might be lighter is the fact you could not order AC on it yet you could on most SS models, so a SS 350 with AC would have been heavier than a Z/28 despite them both being SBCs from '67-'69.
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Old 03-31-2012, 01:07 PM   #304
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The 1LE is a storied brand - and it is a well-thought-out nameplate for a Camaro SS that's about to shock a lot of people when they get it on a road course............
So if this is true (and I have faith in his word) is there room in the line up for a 2nd road course car? We usually talk in terms of competition so who would the Z/28's competition be if the 1LE can take care of the Boss LS?

Just some thought's to discuss.....

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Old 03-31-2012, 02:36 PM   #305
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I think the 1LE will handily (no pun) outrun the GT/Track Package AND Base BOSS. And even though a sub-3:00 VIR time appears to be quicker than the BOSS LS Lightening Lap time of 3:02.4, DON'T assume Dearborn is "done" playing with their trackstar...

What a "massaged 1LE" aka ZEE would do is ASSURE a BOSS LS-bashing normally aspirated light-as-likely Gen-5 Camaro, at a BOSS LS-matching price point, several 1000 "dead Presidents" below the all-conquering ZL1.
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So if this is true (and I have faith in his word) is there room in the line up for a 2nd road course car? We usually talk in terms of competition so who would the Z/28's competition be if the 1LE can take care of the Boss LS?

Just some thought's to discuss.....
... may I respectfully suggest if we upgrade the LS3's performance then we wouldn't have a need for the Z/28 second level entry to out perform the boss for MY13. As mentioned, if the 1LE SS can hold it's own, what would the Z/28 be for. That's why they will not build it now <MY13> With the suspension tweeks given to the 1LE it will be a solid track performer, my main contention is leaving the LS3 at it's current HP level of output when we know it has a much higher level of potential. If GM recertified the LS3 with with some internal upgrades on an assembly line version to reduce costs then the additional HP gains would far surpass the boss with the suspension tweaks already in place. I want the Z28 as badly as you, and others...but it's like a staircase I have come to realize, we must take one step at a time. It's a process...a work in progress....
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Old 04-01-2012, 02:29 PM   #307
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Old 04-09-2012, 04:15 PM   #308
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I am still putting my money on the new engine for the Z/28 in MY 13 1/2 or 14..like someone stated before, the camaro has debuted new engines before and not just the corvette I don't see why it can't be any different now
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IF (bold/caps/italic'd) the LT1 Gen-5 SBC can make 450+ hp/450+ tq, a launch in a very special "end of the run, start of the run" ZEE could be an interesting finale for Gen-5 Camaro...
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That would be my vote lowdown, they gotta keep pumping the sales till the very end of he Gen v run..look at what happened to the mustang when the whole world knew that the next year was getting a refresh and the coyote engine, they just sat on the lots untill Ford basically had to give them away via incentives
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Old 04-10-2012, 01:17 AM   #311
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Interesting development yesterday about calling the next Chevrolet Nascar a SS. If this is the case, maybe the Camaro SS is replaced with the Camaro Z/28.

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...-new-nameplate
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Old 04-20-2012, 03:13 PM   #314
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I havent been here in two years and were still talking about this.
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I havent been here in two years and were still talking about this.
No disrespect...but yes, we are, and your point is?
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Old 04-21-2012, 09:56 AM   #316
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April 2012 join date, 6 posts, and haven't been here in two years.....
Yes we're still talking...the Z/28 is like Rock n Roll....... it will never die.
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I havent been here in two years and were still talking about this.
Well, soldier, if it's because of deployments in our defence, please accept our appreciation. And we hope your apparently intended supercharger upgrade livens up your SS.

As to our continuing dialogue regarding a non-supercharged canyon-carving Camaro, we seem to have made partial progress...something called 1LE is on the horizon. Sorry you missed the concerted "input" and various polls shared from this Site to seek a proper version of "that" Camaro. We think they listened, though...

However, for the diehards who feel a "proper" ZEE requires something more unique and more substantial for propulsion, without the extra heft of a blower, we await our much-sought-after version.

We're a patient lot, we ZEE-lievers, and we know if we don't persist with our expressed desires and dialogue, not much is likely to happen.

Enjoy your super'd SS...just as we look forward to enjoying our vision/version...
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...here here to LOWDOWN and Gramps69Z!!!. By my very nature I am in your camp, although I got a ZL1 the Z-28 is the prize I am truely seeking. I couldn't wait any longer, and am enjoying the heck out of myself right now. But, when the Z-28 returns as I anticipate, if it's what I truely want it to be, then I will be probably one of a few people ever getting a check back from GM on a trade-in. Make no mistake. The ZL1 is the baddest ride I have ever had, in my life, and any amount of toil and money cannot replicate it on another platform and do what it does across so many fronts. But the name Z-28 is dyed in my wool. And I am too still watching, and waiting...
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Old 04-22-2012, 05:35 PM   #319
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OldScoolCamaro you keeping all four wheels of that new Z car on the road?


I truly believe it's not a matter of if but when we will get our 5th generation Z/28.
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OldScoolCamaro you keeping all four wheels of that new Z car on the road?


I truly believe it's not a matter of if but when we will get our 5th generation Z/28.
...you know it Gramps69Z........phenominal technology and engineering, it stays glued to the road!!! Besides the break in says one shouldn't go over 80 mph or 4,000 rpm for 1,500 miles..... The car just taunts you to do otherwise. I am behaving though....for now... The car has many tricks up it's sleeve that one should slowly get accustomed to. It's been a while for me, but, it's like riding a bike....you never forget how to.
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If we really have 3 or 4 model years left like everyone is speculating, what else can they build to kill time? There have been way too many improvements and new models in these 3 model years to say they will do nothing. What better way to complete the lineup than with a Z28? 2013 we are getting a pretty substantial refresh so what else is left? At the very least we should see engine upgrades or changes before the fifth gen is all said and done.
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...you know it Gramps69Z........phenominal technology and engineering, it stays glued to the road!!! Besides the break in says one shouldn't go over 80 mph or 4,000 rpm for 1,500 miles..... The car just taunts you to do otherwise. I am behaving though....for now... The car has many tricks up it's sleeve that one should slowly get accustomed to. It's been a while for me, but, it's like riding a bike....you never forget how to.
I am envious! I would love to have a worthy vehicle these days to go out and enjoy the twisties, it just isn't the same in my Blazers or van.
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If we really have 3 or 4 model years left like everyone is speculating, what else can they build to kill time? There have been way too many improvements and new models in these 3 model years to say they will do nothing. What better way to complete the lineup than with a Z28? 2013 we are getting a pretty substantial refresh so what else is left? At the very least we should see engine upgrades or changes before the fifth gen is all said and done.


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Old 04-22-2012, 08:23 PM   #324
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Next release in Jan. 2013 should be the Z28/LS7, then to trump the 50th Mustang anniversary a ZL1 with an LS9.
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I am envious! I would love to have a worthy vehicle these days to go out and enjoy the twisties, it just isn't the same in my Blazers or van.
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