whats faster...

[gjarzabek009]

Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

When did anybody bring up modded v8 vs anything or turbo v8 vs anything? The only people here bringing up modded cars are v6 owners. Quote me on that, please. I drive an H4 and you'd probably count me as one of those, "ignorant v8 meatheads," but in actuality I am just being a realist. Some would say I am a mustang fanboy, but I joined this site because I am very interested in owning a fifth gen camaro because they're gorgeous and pretty great performers, however I don't dilute myself because I don't own one.

Read about a few more threads and maybe you'll see what I mean about v8 meatheads.

[8cd03gro]

Originally Posted by gjarzabek009

Read about a few more threads and maybe you'll see what I mean about v8 meatheads.

I don't have to. I frequent enough car forums (including this one, I've been here MUCH longer) to know that everyone favors their own car, myself included. Here's the problem: whether you want to admit it or not, you favor your own vehicle. Fact of the matter is, the 3v GT STOCK is at least equal to your bolt on v6 with perfect driving in each car.

[E.T.]

Originally Posted by Black GT

Had a local Chevy dealer tell me a 300 hp car is a girls car.

LOL,

1.

2. That means most of the cars on the road are girls' cars.

[SWAT 79]

Originally Posted by SIXJAK

Uh no it won't. Catch a GT nappin and it's going to has a sad.

....No no, it will. I've done this ad nauseum but the fanboys can understand facts. A mustang gt (05-09) will run the 1/4 mile roughly 8 tenths faster in then the comparable v-6 (auto/manual, convert/coupe). That Equates to 8 car lengths. Simple math, common sense, and real world evidence when seen on the track or at private runways.


It's the way it is, I know your salesmen told you that the v-6 camaro was just as fast as the v-8 mustang, but unfortunately for you, it's not. It will take a lot of mods for a v-6 camaro to beat out a gt mustang, but again, we've gone over this, I really don't see whats so hard for you people to understand.

V-6 Camaro = "fast" Mustang GT= "faster"

[GretchenGotGrowl]

Originally Posted by SWAT 79

....No no, it will. I've done this ad nauseum but the fanboys can understand facts. A mustang gt (05-09) will run the 1/4 mile roughly 8 tenths faster in then the comparable v-6 (auto/manual, convert/coupe). That Equates to 8 car lengths. Simple math, common sense, and real world evidence when seen on the track or at private runways.


It's the way it is, I know your salesmen told you that the v-6 camaro was just as fast as the v-8 mustang, but unfortunately for you, it's not. It will take a lot of mods for a v-6 camaro to beat out a gt mustang, but again, we've gone over this, I really don't see whats so hard for you people to understand.

V-6 Camaro = "fast" Mustang GT= "faster"

Because you can't face reality. Even a GT owner has posted most people don't run 13s. What more do you need than a Mustang owner saying what the rest of us have seen with our own eyes? Yes, everything being exactly equal GT > V6 5th Gen. 0.8 seconds is just something you came up from a few magazines; that's not real world. Drivers do matter! In this case it can be enough for the V6 to win sometime. Hence, driver's race sometimes. Mod the V6 with full set of bolt ons and it will be more than a sometimes.

[SWAT 79]

Holy shit, this is like talking to an ignorant brick wall.

If a mustang gt is running 14's (which some drivers do) then the camaro naturally is running 15's. That would be REAL WORLD.

In the real world, a mid 13 second car doesn't run 14's while a mid 14 second car runs low 14's as some suggested.


No matter which way you cut it, the gt is running almost a full second faster than the v-6 camaro, regardless of how you guys try to convince yourself it's a drivers race.


Also, the few of you owners who have been to the track, are full of shit. Yeah every once in awhile people run 14's in a mustang, just like every once in a while people in a v-6 run mid 15's. I've seen it happen, does that mean I discredit v-6 times saying that in the REAL WORLD (which mind you, is my limited track experience, the same as all of yours)? No it doesn't, because I'm a car enthusiast, not a biased fanboy.


The question was whats faster, and that is a mustang gt, no matter which way you cut it, which is almost a full second faster then a v6 camaro. Let's put it this way, which maybe you guys will understand. A 2010 Camaro SS is 1/2 a second faster then a mustang gt, or will put roughly 5-6 car lengths on a mustang gt.

Do you like that analogy better since it's a camaro that's faster then a mustang?

[WE485]

you guys do know this is a camaro site right?

[SWAT 79]

Originally Posted by WE485

you guys do know this is a camaro site right?

Right, but that doesn't mean that incorrect information can be used as fact. I doubt any forum would want to be operated that way.

[GretchenGotGrowl]

Originally Posted by SWAT 79

Holy shit, this is like talking to an ignorant brick wall.

If a mustang gt is running 14's (which some drivers do) then the camaro naturally is running 15's. That would be REAL WORLD.

In the real world, a mid 13 second car doesn't run 14's while a mid 14 second car runs low 14's as some suggested.


No matter which way you cut it, the gt is running almost a full second faster than the v-6 camaro, regardless of how you guys try to convince yourself it's a drivers race.



Also, the few of you owners who have been to the track, are full of shit. Yeah every once in awhile people run 14's in a mustang, just like every once in a while people in a v-6 run mid 15's. I've seen it happen, does that mean I discredit v-6 times saying that in the REAL WORLD (which mind you, is my limited track experience, the same as all of yours)? No it doesn't, because I'm a car enthusiast, not a biased fanboy.


The question was whats faster, and that is a mustang gt, no matter which way you cut it, which is almost a full second faster then a v6 camaro. Let's put it this way, which maybe you guys will understand. A 2010 Camaro SS is 1/2 a second faster then a mustang gt, or will put roughly 5-6 car lengths on a mustang gt.

Do you like that analogy better since it's a camaro that's faster then a mustang?

Again, same day same track I'm seeing 14.0-14.2 GTs and a 14.5 V6. Both supposedly stock. That's not 0.8 sec. Don't go by magazine times. I know you like GTs and can't stand that newer cars have better performance, but it is REAL! I imagine the new V6 Mustang is beating quite a few older GTs too, just haven't seen one at the track yet.

[ffrcobra_65]

u can put the Camaro V6 up vs a Veyron and someone here is going to argue that the V6 is gonna be faster sometimes and if and when and so and so.....

[E.T.]

Originally Posted by GretchenGotGrowl

Again, same day same track I'm seeing 14.0-14.2 GTs and a 14.5 V6. Both supposedly stock. That's not 0.8 sec. Don't go by magazine times. I know you like GTs and can't stand that newer cars have better performance, but it is REAL! I imagine the new V6 Mustang is beating quite a few older GTs too, just haven't seen one at the track yet.

I'm sure the new V6 'stang is capable of beating older GTs. Some people just can't get it through their head that the newer V6s can take on a V8. Most of these people don't even drive Camaros. Why are you guys even on this site. Envy much??

[big hammer]

no matter how you want to spin it, a v6 camaro is just no match for a 3v 4.6 PERIOD.

they have a narrower powerband and are just plain heavier.

i'll likely get flamed for this, but a good 3v is a better match for an l99 than a v6 camaro.

[SWAT 79]

Originally Posted by GretchenGotGrowl

Again, same day same track I'm seeing 14.0-14.2 GTs and a 14.5 V6. Both supposedly stock. That's not 0.8 sec. Don't go by magazine times. I know you like GTs and can't stand that newer cars have better performance, but it is REAL! I imagine the new V6 Mustang is beating quite a few older GTs too, just haven't seen one at the track yet.

Alright, you are just not capable of being in this discussion. Thanks for playing!


Big Hammer, You are absolutely right, and there is real world evidence to prove that theory (for the non believers).

[KMPrenger]

Originally Posted by hollywood21639

People "race" v6 Camaros? I thought they were for commuter drivers only.

..and I thought lawn mowers were for cutting grass, but they race those too!!

Originally Posted by E.T.

I'm sure the new V6 'stang is capable of beating older GTs. Some people just can't get it through their head that the newer V6s can take on a V8. Most of these people don't even drive Camaros. Why are you guys even on this site. Envy much??

According to the dozens of youtube videos with the new Stang V6 taking down 05 - 09 GTs, it doesn't take much at all in the way of mods to make it a contender.

[BigDan]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

..and I thought lawn mowers were for cutting grass, but they race those too!!

According to the dozens of youtube videos with the new Stang V6 taking down 05 - 09 GTs, it doesn't take much at all in the way of mods to make it a contender.

Not the videos I've seen.

Search "2010 Mustang GT vs. 2011 Mustang V6" and click on the first regular result.

I'm not sure if this is considered a street race even though it looks like a closed course so I will leave the searching up to you guys to avoid getting in trouble.

[wbt]

Originally Posted by SWAT 79

Right, but that doesn't mean that incorrect information can be used as fact. I doubt any forum would want to be operated that way.

It's no use with him....

He likes to talk going to the track but I haven't seen his times, etc...

Hell, I invited to meet him out at a local strip a few weeks back....no show, no response.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...=152884&page=6

Hot air.

[SWAT 79]

Originally Posted by wbt

It's no use with him....

He likes to talk going to the track but I haven't seen his times, etc...

Hell, I invited to meet him out at a local strip a few weeks back....no show, no response.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...=152884&page=6

Hot air.

Lol, if you're gonna talk the talk, you should walk the walk. Sounds like a typical forum member who calls out the "haters" (ie, non biased car enthusiasts) and doesn't show.

Kudos to you though, good times!

[REEFBLUE93]

Originally Posted by WE485

you guys do know this is a camaro site right?

You did read the OP's question, right? BTW, which trailer park in ATX were you at when you took that avatar pic? I grew up in Austin, not in a trailer park though, and was wondering where that was at....

[wbt]

Originally Posted by SWAT 79

Lol, if you're gonna talk the talk, you should walk the walk. Sounds like a typical forum member who calls out the "haters" (ie, non biased car enthusiasts) and doesn't show.

Kudos to you though, good times!

Thanks! Best so far at a real track has been 11.63@118 in 2,500' DA. Got some larger tires and new wheels on order so should be able to knock some more off that with better traction. This Fall/Winter should net some low 11's in the 120's. Moving to e85 this month too. Would be nice to squeeze a 10.99 in there.

All N/A with bolt on's and valve covers have never been off.

[MatchbookSS]

Originally Posted by wbt

Thanks! Best so far at a real track has been 11.63@118 in 2,500' DA. Got some larger tires and new wheels on order so should be able to knock some more off that with better traction. This Fall/Winter should net some low 11's in the 120's. Moving to e85 this month too. Would be nice to squeeze a 10.99 in there.

All N/A with bolt on's and valve covers have never been off.

Damn...what mods do you have again? Cause that's moving. Most of the stock/stockish 5.0's around here are running mid 13's at around 107ish...At least the ones on stock tires. The modded ones on good rubber really move though.

[WE485]

Originally Posted by REEFBLUE93

You did read the OP's question, right? BTW, which trailer park in ATX were you at when you took that avatar pic? I grew up in Austin, not in a trailer park though, and was wondering where that was at....

Not a trailer park at all ass clown. It's was taken at cars and coffee. yes I did read what the op said. my point was, this is a camaro forum and it's going to be bias. if you hold yourself to some higher standard of automotive knowledge than the rest of us peasants here. than maybe you should move on. most of you talk and endless amount of shit, and don't own the car. what are you doing here. is it to engage in thought provoking and educational conversation. I don't think so. I think you just want to be an ass.

[wbt]

Originally Posted by MatchbookSS

Damn...what mods do you have again? Cause that's moving. Most of the stock/stockish 5.0's around here are running mid 13's at around 107ish...At least the ones on stock tires. The modded ones on good rubber really move though.

Power mods:
BBK shorties
Boss intake
Airaid CAI
O/R x-pipe
Magnaflow cat-back (not really worth anything)
Tune

Supporting mods:
ET streets with skinnies up front
Alum. D/S
Dual disc clutch with alum. flywheel
Barton shifter
Rear end girdle with axle tube brace (factory 3.73 car)
CHE rear suspension control arms and relo. brackets

Vid of best pass to date spinning the tires terribly on launch and every shift:

[WE485]

Originally Posted by wbt

It's no use with him....

He likes to talk going to the track but I haven't seen his times, etc...

Hell, I invited to meet him out at a local strip a few weeks back....no show, no response.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...=152884&page=6

Hot air.

I guess your talking about me here. went back and looked at this post missed where you invited me out. I think I was out that night. Was I supposed to go find you? what exactly are you saying here. did you honestly expect that. I'm sorry if so. I guess I can send you a pm next time I go to sar. I have to go thru austin to get there. and yes I know tad is kinda shitty. but if your up against the rules and sounds like you are. they really tech shit. you know what mean

[MatchbookSS]

Originally Posted by wbt

Power mods:
BBK shorties
Boss intake
Airaid CAI
O/R x-pipe
Magnaflow cat-back (not really worth anything)
Tune

Supporting mods:
ET streets with skinnies up front
Alum. D/S
Dual disc clutch with alum. flywheel
Barton shifter
Rear end girdle with axle tube brace (factory 3.73 car)
CHE rear suspension control arms and relo. brackets

Vid of best pass to date spinning the tires terribly on launch and every shift:

You really were burning them up on the launch...it was like you were on street tires.

What number are you putting down?

[GretchenGotGrowl]

Originally Posted by wbt

Power mods:
BBK shorties
Boss intake
Airaid CAI
O/R x-pipe
Magnaflow cat-back (not really worth anything)
Tune

Supporting mods:
ET streets with skinnies up front
Alum. D/S
Dual disc clutch with alum. flywheel
Barton shifter
Rear end girdle with axle tube brace (factory 3.73 car)
CHE rear suspension control arms and relo. brackets

Vid of best pass to date spinning the tires terribly on launch and every shift:

Very nice!

Love the new 5.0s.