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Old 06-14-2014, 04:18 PM   #1
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Cipher Harness bar install issues

Trying to install a Cipher harness bar. It didn't come with instructions so i'm kind of winging it. My issue is basicly it's loose and i can't use my factory seat belt. I have the bars adjusted to push the bar towards the back as much as possible but when everything is snugged down and i test my factory seat belt it binds coming out and no longer retracts. The adjustable bars are maxed out to have just a few threads in the bar themselves. In addition the harness bar crushed my side panels. Am i doing something wrong here or is this cipher bar a pile of poo ?
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Old 06-14-2014, 05:15 PM   #2
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just completely removed the bar and put back to stock. I set the 2 bars next to each other and one is longer than the other, by about an inch. Anyone know if this is an error or if i was supposed to put the longer bar on a certain side?
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Old 06-14-2014, 07:30 PM   #3
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I just bought this bar but haven't installed it yet. The kit not having instructions and Cipoher saying they don't have install instructions on it yet and reading about your experiences with it is already giving me negatives vibes about it...
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My Speedware bar uses a collared sleeve to separate the swivel bracket from the pillar mounting point.

Bolt > washer > Lap bracket > Harness bracket > sleeve > pillar

Could try to modify it at the pillar.
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Old 06-14-2014, 10:01 PM   #5
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I just bought this bar but haven't installed it yet. The kit not having instructions and Cipoher saying they don't have install instructions on it yet and reading about your experiences with it is already giving me negatives vibes about it...
send it back, spend more for a better one. Even the bars and heims feel cheap. Mines going back.

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My Speedware bar uses a collared sleeve to separate the swivel bracket from the pillar mounting point.

Bolt > washer > Lap bracket > Harness bracket > sleeve > pillar

Could try to modify it at the pillar.
that's exactly what is needed. Thanks for posting this up. i was looking at the speedware online earlier today and should have gone that route.
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Old 06-15-2014, 02:20 AM   #6
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I have one as well. Both my bars are the same length. That collar that comes with the SpeedWare bar would be ideal. My stock belt will sometimes get hung up and I have the harness bar pushed back all the way as well. If you decide to keep it I have attached a link to the write up I did for the install. Nothing fancy. I am not sure I will keep mine. I may remove and go back to the CG Lock for now. Would really like a four or six point bar instead but the price is too much for me right now.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=336257
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Old 06-15-2014, 04:45 PM   #7
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I have one as well. Both my bars are the same length. That collar that comes with the SpeedWare bar would be ideal. My stock belt will sometimes get hung up and I have the harness bar pushed back all the way as well. If you decide to keep it I have attached a link to the write up I did for the install. Nothing fancy. I am not sure I will keep mine. I may remove and go back to the CG Lock for now. Would really like a four or six point bar instead but the price is too much for me right now.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=336257

i did come across your write up and it was very useful, thank you.
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