Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
Emblempros
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > Technical Camaro Topics > Camaro DIY & HOW-TO instructions & discussions


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 02-06-2012, 11:52 AM   #205
fritcherc
 
fritcherc's Avatar
 
Drives: Black 2012 Camaro SS/RS
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Jacksonville, Florida
Posts: 138
What size LED is in the traction control switch? I'm looking to change mine to red along with the steering wheel controls, the window switches and doing the four pack in white with red needles (for now, more to follow). So I just wanted to make sure I order the right ones.

10 PLCC-2 (red) - steering wheel controls
3 0805 Surface mount (red) - window switches
8 PLCC-2 (white) - four pack cluster
? - traction control

This is what I think I need to order, I want the needles in the four pack red so I shouldn't have to have those changed.
__________________

RX Catchcan, VMAX CNC ported TB, MGW Retro Shift Knob Assembly, Debadged, Sparks SS emblems front and rear, Oracle Ghosted side markers and Plasma DRL's, LED dome and trunk light, ACS T3 Splitter, Ambient footwell and cupholder, MTX subwoofer, Blade spoiler, APEX Motorsports Skip Shift Eliminator, Windows tinted, CAI Intake, Borla S-Type cat back exhaust, ZL1 side skirts, BMR Subframe connectors and tunnel brace, Hex Vents.
fritcherc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2012, 12:15 PM   #206
LIV4MUDDIN
 
LIV4MUDDIN's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Olive Branch MS
Posts: 335
The traction control is a 5mm LED and is just a soldered hard wire. You will have to modify the bulb holder to get it out . Just cut the small tab on the bottom of the holder that splits the wires.
LIV4MUDDIN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2012, 08:55 AM   #207
572HP
ACE5 (Atlanta Group)
 
572HP's Avatar
 
Drives: "Black Ice"
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Suwanee, GA
Posts: 1,704
Quote:
Originally Posted by fritcherc View Post
What size LED is in the traction control switch? I'm looking to change mine to red along with the steering wheel controls, the window switches and doing the four pack in white with red needles (for now, more to follow). So I just wanted to make sure I order the right ones.

10 PLCC-2 (red) - steering wheel controls
3 0805 Surface mount (red) - window switches
8 PLCC-2 (white) - four pack cluster
? - traction control

This is what I think I need to order, I want the needles in the four pack red so I shouldn't have to have those changed.
Quote:
Originally Posted by LIV4MUDDIN View Post
The traction control is a 5mm LED and is just a soldered hard wire. You will have to modify the bulb holder to get it out . Just cut the small tab on the bottom of the holder that splits the wires.
I don't remember the Traction Control switch being 5mm. I think that the only 5mm is the automatic shifter. I'm pretty certain it is a single 0603 or 0805. Be sure to order a few extra of each kind in case you mess up a couple. You'll have an extra for the traction control either way.
__________________
572HP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2012, 01:36 PM   #208
creektrack
 
Drives: N/A
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Houston, Tx
Posts: 41
I wanna say the traction control was a plcc2 and the sunroof was a 5mm, or vise versa...can anyone pull the button and verify this?

Maybe someone can get a thread with a master list of the leds in the radio and gauges and all that and get it stickied...

Sent from my PG86100 using Tapatalk
creektrack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2012, 09:11 PM   #209
Caddyroger

 
Caddyroger's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 RJT Camaro LT2 RS auto shift
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Washington state
Posts: 1,856
I had my dash gauges changed over to the red circles and white letters. I also got the gauge pack done in white lettering also. I had Creektrack to change out the leds for me. He is fast and very good at his soldering. He got the dash on Weds day and had it sent back out to me Thursday mourning. I would have thought that came from the factory.
__________________
Caddy
Caddyroger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2012, 10:26 PM   #210
ALLTRBO
 
ALLTRBO's Avatar
 
Drives: V8 up front and 7-spd out back FTW
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: MD
Posts: 746
I finished changing the LED's in my '12 SS. There are a couple minor differences in the board compared to the earlier models from what I can see of the earlier pics, but very little difference in the LED's and LED locations themselves (mainly one of the indicator lights IIRC, I'll check again in a bit).

They're all blue now (real blue)... the DIC, font, and surround. It looks even better than I expected! I also changed a few indicator LED's and swapped a few colors, and that turned out great as well.

However... I'm not finished with the overall package, though I've plugged it in and played with it to make sure all is well.
The needles will soon be fully white (with a twist... you'll have to wait and see. ). I already changed the LED's for those to white, but need to repaint the needles themselves.
I'm in the process of cutting out perfect rings from 3M blue automotive vinyl wrap, which is also accenting other bits on my car, to cover up the molded-in red rings on the faces just inside of the numbers. Some people would like that contrast of colors, but I don't. We'll see how it turns out.

I also just finished the aux gauge pack with the same colors. Those were easy-peasy compared to the main cluster. I'll do the rest of the interior switches in blue, but that'll be a one-by-one sort of thing.

I've taken a ton of pics along the way but I don't want to post any until I've completely finished the cluster.

More to come...
__________________
ALLTRBO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2012, 10:41 PM   #211
anglwngss
Lone Star Camaro
 
anglwngss's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 Synergy Green 2SS/RS
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Venus, Tx
Posts: 1,677
Sounds like it's going to look great!

Have you ever painted the needles before? I'm interested in doing that, but have never tried and kind of afraid to mess those up!
__________________
anglwngss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2012, 08:28 AM   #212
ALLTRBO
 
ALLTRBO's Avatar
 
Drives: V8 up front and 7-spd out back FTW
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: MD
Posts: 746
Not yet, but I'm confident that I can do it. It won't be hard to start over a couple times if I do mess up, 2000 grit is pretty gentle. Only the bottom of the small needles are painted and the bottom and top of the large needles. (<edit: corrected)
My "special" paint was supposed to be delivered yesterday but it wasn't, so hopefully it'll be here tomorrow and I can finish that up after work.

'sides, you have it easy. Your needles only have the tip painted but mine are lit all the way through the center cap. :P

Last edited by ALLTRBO; 03-20-2012 at 12:45 PM.
ALLTRBO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2012, 07:52 PM   #213
creektrack
 
Drives: N/A
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Houston, Tx
Posts: 41
Quote:
Originally Posted by ALLTRBO View Post
Not yet, but I'm confident that I can do it. It won't be hard to start over a couple times if I do mess up, 2000 grit is pretty gentle. Only the bottom of the large needles are painted and the bottom and top of the smaller needles.
My "special" paint was supposed to be delivered yesterday but it wasn't, so hopefully it'll be here tomorrow and I can finish that up after work.

'sides, you have it easy. Your needles only have the tip painted but mine are lit all the way through the center cap. :P
For your center ring that is red no matter what, maybe try scraping it off from the back side of the gauge face....that's how you convert older vehicles to leds, you just scrape off the nasty green film and then it becomes whatever color you put behind it, and there should be 2 leds for the smaller inner rings...

Also, painting the needles are easy, use a fine brush or q-tip, and you don't need sandpaper, you can scrape the paint of with a razor blade, then use an led flashlight to make sure its all off, and also once you put the new paint on, which may take a couple coats, use the led flashlight to make sure there are no voids in the paint...

Sent from my PG86100 using Tapatalk
creektrack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2012, 08:01 PM   #214
anglwngss
Lone Star Camaro
 
anglwngss's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 Synergy Green 2SS/RS
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Venus, Tx
Posts: 1,677
Those will be cool looking when you get done! I can't wait to see
__________________
anglwngss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2012, 12:42 PM   #215
ALLTRBO
 
ALLTRBO's Avatar
 
Drives: V8 up front and 7-spd out back FTW
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: MD
Posts: 746
Quote:
Originally Posted by creektrack View Post
For your center ring that is red no matter what, maybe try scraping it off from the back side of the gauge face....that's how you convert older vehicles to leds, you just scrape off the nasty green film and then it becomes whatever color you put behind it, and there should be 2 leds for the smaller inner rings...

Also, painting the needles are easy, use a fine brush or q-tip, and you don't need sandpaper, you can scrape the paint of with a razor blade, then use an led flashlight to make sure its all off, and also once you put the new paint on, which may take a couple coats, use the led flashlight to make sure there are no voids in the paint...
Thanks for the advice. I didn't want to un-glue the faces from the plastic so finding out if I could scrape off the red didn't go past one look at the backside. Not sure if that's possible, though. I do like my blue 'rings' a lot, it looks good during the day and no light shows through at night, exactly what I prefer.
I did change the LED's for those rings from red to blue (yes, there are two for each), I wanted to see if it would change the red rings to purple (at night). It didn't make any discernible difference, oddly enough. I just left them that way, it doesn't matter now.

As for the needles... sigh...

I got my paint in yesterday but it won't work for this purpose so I reverted back to the store-bought 'special' I bought previously.
I'm not done but I am climbing my way up the needle-painting learning curve, heh.

1) I was backwards in my last post... The ('12) large needles are painted on top and bottom and the small needles are only painted on the bottom (which is the way it's usually done, bottom only). It looks like they did that because the large needles protrude right through the centers and they had to paint it on the topside to diffuse the light properly in that area.
2) The large needles don't need to be sanded or scraped, the red-orange paint will come off with isopropyl alcohol.
3) The original white paint on the base of the needles which helps diffuse the light will also come off with isopropyl alcohol.
4) When the needles have been sanded before figuring out that they don't need to be sanded, the color will not show through properly unless the surfaces are polished glass-like smooth again.
5) The small needles on the main cluster have to be taken apart fully, meaning destroying the 'mushroomed plastic' bits that hold the needle to the cap, to remove all of the re-orange paint (I haven't touched those yet)
6) The paint on the 4-gauge pack needles will not come off with isopropyl alcohol.
7) Pent-up frustration subsides a bit with a glass of tasty wine.

So... still a work in progress.
__________________
ALLTRBO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2012, 10:17 PM   #216
camaro5grey
 
camaro5grey's Avatar
 
Drives: 2014 2SS/RS 6M
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: fort worth
Posts: 418
anglwngss thanks for the help on the info on where you sent your but I took it on a limb an did it myself...mission accomplished and now gonna take on the cluster...
camaro5grey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2012, 10:21 PM   #217
anglwngss
Lone Star Camaro
 
anglwngss's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 Synergy Green 2SS/RS
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Venus, Tx
Posts: 1,677
Good job!! I can just barely solder together two wires, so I haven't even tried a little bitty LED!! Lol. Maybe someday, I'll get up enough gumption and try, lol, and hope I don't fry the LED
__________________
anglwngss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2012, 11:02 PM   #218
ALLTRBO
 
ALLTRBO's Avatar
 
Drives: V8 up front and 7-spd out back FTW
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: MD
Posts: 746
Here are few pics. The blue is actually blue and all perfectly uniform in color, the camera screwed that up. More to explain later, falling asleep.
Attached Images
    
ALLTRBO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2012, 11:08 PM   #219
anglwngss
Lone Star Camaro
 
anglwngss's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 Synergy Green 2SS/RS
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Venus, Tx
Posts: 1,677
That looks really really nice! Did you notice any differences in taking apart the dash between what's in the DIY and your 2012?
__________________
anglwngss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2012, 12:53 PM   #220
ALLTRBO
 
ALLTRBO's Avatar
 
Drives: V8 up front and 7-spd out back FTW
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: MD
Posts: 746
Thanks! I wouldn't have thought it possible if I hadn't seen this thread.
It's all the same as what's in your DIY. There were a few differences on the board itself from what is in your pics, though, but nothing that changes the way it's done.

The colors of the numbers in these pics is totally whacked out, the numbers are actually as blue as the halos. The DIC display is actually perfectly uniform in color, too. I'll try to get pics with my better camera.
I had to give up my 'special' (glow-in-the-dark) needle paint idea, that paint wouldn't light up well enough when the gauges were lit, though it did glow when everything was off. I tried three different kinds and colors of glow-in-the-dark paint, none worked well. So I just went with normal white. A white Sharpie paint-pen worked great.

The second pic shows the indicator lights that I changed. The green for headlights and white for cruise control never made any sense to me, so I swapped those colors (with new LED's). Much better. The TC-off and stability-off were orange which means "warning!'. Problem is, those are GOOD things to have turned off, so they should be blue instead. Much better.
The fourth pic just shows the glow from the drop-in blue LED dome light. Me likes.

As you can see in the third pic, I Plasti-Dipped the bezel, and it looks much better to me than silver.

The blue covering rings I made for the inner face of the gauges aren't on there because I semi-ruined the face. My sleeping pill had kicked in before I finished up so while I was out of it, I used the rubbing alcohol (which I previously used on the needles) to clean the face instead of water like I would have otherwise done. It made prominent swirl marks in the nice matte finish and they wouldn't come out with anything. At that point it was ruined anyway so I figured it wouldn't hurt to try a matte clearcoat to smooth it out nicely. I tested a small corner of the non-visible part of the faces and it worked great, so I masked it off and sprayed all of both faces. It melted part of the numbers. Otherwise it looks fine, and did cover up the bad swirl marks. So, until I get a replacement cluster to swap my electronics into I figured I'd leave it the way it is so I can drive my car properly again.

Apparently the 2012 gauges are only available on a repairable exchange basis for now, which means I can't do anything about it yet. :bangdesk:
It doesn't look too bad though, I don't notice unless I look closely, and you can't see it at all in these mediocre quality pics. I still want to replace it anyway, and hopefully it won't be too long before the 2012 clusters are available for purchase.
Moral of the story? Certain medications have warnings for a reason.
Quote:
Lunesta can cause side effects that may impair your thinking or reactions. Until you know how this medication will affect you during waking hours, be careful if you drive, operate machinery, pilot an airplane, modify automotive gauge clusters, or do anything that requires you to be awake and alert.
ALLTRBO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2012, 01:00 PM   #221
anglwngss
Lone Star Camaro
 
anglwngss's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 Synergy Green 2SS/RS
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Venus, Tx
Posts: 1,677
Even though I KNOW that's not funny.. I'm apologizing in advace, because I'm giggling anyway! Lol..

I do hope the 2012 clusters come out soon, I actually like the look of them better than the 2010/2011s.

Even though the pics do show the numbers as a lighter blue, I can imagine them being a darker color. They still look very nice and sharp in the photos!
__________________
anglwngss is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Change the Gauge Cluster Color??? rharon Camaro DIY & HOW-TO instructions & discussions 25 02-14-2012 05:28 PM
NON RS RED HALOS LEDS AND MORE DIY PROJECT !!! 1969to2010 Camaro DIY & HOW-TO instructions & discussions 14 02-21-2011 02:56 PM
DIY: ABL Color Change Tecca Camaro DIY & HOW-TO instructions & discussions 20 05-18-2010 07:50 PM
Dealer-Oil change or DIY? wlvrine Mechanical Maintenance: Break-in / Oil & Fluids / Servicing 32 06-23-2009 10:45 PM
Obama Climate Change Advisers Holdren and Lubchenco Are Told Global Warming Is Over bigralph Off-topic Discussions 15 02-06-2009 08:07 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:16 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.