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Old 03-22-2009, 10:39 PM   #26
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I've only driven a manual once in my life (in a parking lot for about 30 minutes) but the 1000 price difference is motivation enough for me to get the manual. I also used to drive a manual forklift at work (only had to shift between forward and reverse though) with an extremely finicky clutch, so I'm hoping I'll be a fast learner...

I'm also buggin my brother to teach me on his GTO but thats going to cost me a day of detailing his car (and its black!!!!)
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Old 03-22-2009, 10:59 PM   #27
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ouch i feel for you man, i go to school on a small coastal island, and live right on the coast, 4 mile drive to the school. the island is extremely small with no long stretches of straight rode, i have no doubt that i would only be able to get into 3 gear between stop lights and turns where i would down shift, the only bright thing is the long bridge that connects the island and the coast is a straight shot, where i could really get going. my alternative is the automatic tap shift transmission. now i am a firm believer in he stick shift sports car thing, but i don,t even know how to drive a stick, and i know i can learn but i think my situation is better suited for the tap shift, which kinda give the same feel of control over the car.I KNOW that its not the same feel as the sticks, but in my situation i will go out and work my ass off for the tap shift auto. i don't know if this helps but hey i got it off my chest.
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Old 03-22-2009, 11:08 PM   #28
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I can drive a manual. I live in a tourist trap town. The holidays and summers suck traffic wise.
I feel an auto will be best for me in bumper to bumper traffIc with a every third day driver.

Get an auto and be happy with it.
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Old 03-22-2009, 11:28 PM   #29
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Okay the main question seems to be.. is it easy to drive a stick. Yeah it's not much difference between the manual and automatic besides $1k. The point is, he wants to know if its hard to drive a stick?

Its hard to learn. It sucks.. it really really sucks. My dad taught me when I was 10 on an old pick up with a stick shift almost as tall as I was then. But it is really worth it to learn. Not only can you drive the extra HP you want, and save $1k, but you can drive any other vehicle thats a stick. My suggestion.. get a friend or family member who has a stick to take you into the country and teach you how to drive it, cause it's gonna suck even worse to learn on your new Camaro.. god forbid you grind the gears. Learn before you get it!
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Old 03-22-2009, 11:50 PM   #30
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Also, to keep bein chatty, I recall my dad saying that you can hear when you need to change gears.. mind you 1st is the hardest, which you don't need to "hear".. but I couldn't "hear" when to change gears for years.. if you can get out of 1st you're golden.. after that watch the RPMs til you can "hear"
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Old 03-23-2009, 01:46 AM   #31
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I was thinking Manual for a while because of all the guys saying an auto ain't a muscle. Then I saw 0-60 in 4.6 seconds and was a little more motivated to get an auto. I figure, the remote start and paddle shifters makeup for the extra 1,000$
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I was thinking Manual for a while because of all the guys saying an auto ain't a muscle. Then I saw 0-60 in 4.6 seconds and was a little more motivated to get an auto. I figure, the remote start and paddle shifters makeup for the extra 1,000$
my thoughts exactly,plus the fact of the congested small area i live in
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Old 03-23-2009, 05:35 AM   #33
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lol. when you look at it as paying to lose performance, you've already started on the wrong foot.

you said you had never driven stick before. yes....?
you said the specs are so much better for the m6 to the A6. yes....?

I asked you what specs you considered so much better. and you come back with personal attacks.

if millions (if not billions) of people around the world can drive a stick, im sure you could manage. you will kill it, you will burn the clutch from time to time, thats part of the learning process. its not difficult to drive stick. just takes some people longer than others to learn.

the fact that you have never driven a manual in your life before is pretty much going to negate your chances of seeing the 1/4 times or 0-60 times that have been shown that this car can do.
and thats not an attack at you, its the truth. if you want the manual, get it, if you dont think you will be able to drive it (comfortably in your own right), get the auto.

and if you feel like it, you can settle down and answer a few questions of mine.

how many cars have you driven with over 400 hp? how many times have you gone sub 12 sec 1/4 mile? how often will you be taking your car to the track? will this car be your dd?
off topic, but there's only 6 billion people in the world so i don't think its as many as you think that can drive a manual
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Old 03-23-2009, 05:48 AM   #34
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I look at it this way. Getting the auto you have no chance of missing a gear off the line againts someone. Also unless you are going to the track the quarter mile time is not an issue with the auto. I surely hope you don't plan on going 100+ mph on roads unless passing on a 2 lane highway.

I am looking forward to auto start. Black leather interior, south Alabama in the summer. Get into a nice cool downed car.

I will happily take the auto.
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Old 03-24-2009, 02:42 AM   #35
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ive never driven a manual in my life so an automatic would be my obvious choice. yet because the specs on the manual are so much better, i want to ask if its really that hard to drive one? (a manual)
To answer your question... I had the same issue as you when I bought my current car, (2004 Mazda RX8). I barely knew how to drive a stick... I figured if I was going to spend the amount of $$ that I did on that car I wanted a stick... for the same reasons as you, (Hp, torque, bragging rights, etc). So I took one on a test drive, grinded the gears all over hell and back. The dealer was a young kid and luckily, didn't give a shit. So, he sold me an auto right after. Embarrassed as hell I decided to learn to drive a stick before my next car.

So I learned on my brother's Jeep. I'm so glad that I did. After a while, I graduated to my dad's vette, (THAT took some begging though), and did pretty well.

My point is, that all it takes is practice. If you are like most of us and just HAVE to get a Camaro now, go for the auto and learn to drive a stick with a different car. Then a couple years down the road trade in the 2010 for the 2012. If the extra Hp is that important to you and you can wait to get the Camaro until you learn the stick, then do that. But I do NOT recommend getting a new manual and throwing yourself on it like that.

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Also, to keep bein chatty, I recall my dad saying that you can hear when you need to change gears.. mind you 1st is the hardest, which you don't need to "hear".. but I couldn't "hear" when to change gears for years.. if you can get out of 1st you're golden.. after that watch the RPMs til you can "hear"
most vehicles have idiot lights for upshifts nowadays, so if you still have trouble hearing when to shift, a nice little reminder pops up on the dash
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Old 03-26-2009, 09:56 PM   #37
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in all the reviews that they tested the ss manual no one complained about the shifter... can't wait to see&read when they'll test one with the hurst shifter..
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Old 03-26-2009, 10:10 PM   #38
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It's just like driving an automatic... except for starting, stopping and shifting.
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Old 03-27-2009, 12:14 AM   #39
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Just because GM gets those 1/4 mile times does not mean they are the best drivers also. I have owned a camaro for awhile and always read countless people getting better times in a manual than car and driver and motor trend....autos are more consistent...get a good driver and they will get better than a 12.9 guaranteed! So saying the manual isnt that big of a difference is saying alot...get a good driver and those diff. in time widen...yes him being a newbee with a manual he prob wont get those times...but with practice he will have mid 12s! just my .02
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Old 03-27-2009, 01:19 AM   #40
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most vehicles have idiot lights for upshifts nowadays, so if you still have trouble hearing when to shift, a nice little reminder pops up on the dash
Ooh really? I'm way behind technology!
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Old 03-27-2009, 02:54 AM   #41
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Get the auto...GM needs the extra money.
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yeah... even my 99 has it
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Old 03-27-2009, 03:45 PM   #43
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I would have to say driving a auto is easy, but there is nothing like driving a manual and being part of the action. I learned on a 86' nissan pickup. Stalled it, bounced it, but it didn't take long. I drive had a manual for years and now drive and auto. Bored to death. I will be getting the manual for sure. Practice makes perfect. Taught my wife, and if she can learn anyone can.... No offense to her...
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Also, to keep bein chatty, I recall my dad saying that you can hear when you need to change gears.. mind you 1st is the hardest, which you don't need to "hear".. but I couldn't "hear" when to change gears for years.. if you can get out of 1st you're golden.. after that watch the RPMs til you can "hear"
you can hear/feel when to shift. that takes time and practice to know and will be different amongst vehicle setups. ie: a jeep with a 4.56 rear might require you to rev higher in 1st/2nd/ etc than a camaro with a 3.45 rear.



the real trick however, is shifting without using the clutch pedal.





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off topic, but there's only 6 billion people in the world so i don't think its as many as you think that can drive a manual
over the years that manual automobiles have been around, im sure theres over a billion stick drivers. lol


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you can hear/feel when to shift. that takes time and practice to know and will be different amongst vehicle setups. ie: a jeep with a 4.56 rear might require you to rev higher in 1st/2nd/ etc than a camaro with a 3.45 rear.



the real trick however, is shifting without using the clutch pedal.



psht! I can... you'll see

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Old 03-27-2009, 10:42 PM   #46
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The way I see it , the Camaro for most of us is a melding with the ride and you are the most controlling aspect of the power this baby dishes out and there is "nothing" more fun and more satisfying then getting that lurch during the manual shift and the satisfaction that follows a number of lurches after running thru the gears.........wooohooo ! Thats not to say the sport mode on the paddy shift auto doesnt give you a little bumb but I believe the GM version of the manual mode is soft and a slight hesitant ......blah , I guess thats ok for grandpa who may wany a comfy ride

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