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Old 08-08-2011, 09:15 AM   #1
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V6 w/ 12k miles clutch is out?

I've had my V6 LS for about 9 or 10 months and was having someone else drive my car (first mistake) since I was drinking that night and I was riding with someone else, so this is all from people who were in my car.

Apparently the guy driving my car had been starting from 3rd gear the whole night (about 30 min to an hour in the car). He then let another friend drive, who is the one that realized it had been starting from 3rd all night. The first guy also said that while he was driving, the clutch kept sticking to the floor and had to pull it back up with his foot. (Why he kept driving it is beyond me...) He said when they got on the interstate (after the car had been parked for a few hours) they pushed the clutch in and nothing happened. The car will still go into gear when I push down the clutch but won't drive.

SO... I had it towed to the dealership and at first they thought it'd be the hydraulics in the master cylinder for the clutch... No dice... so now $350 for them to keep looking to find the problem (which will go towards fixing the problem if it's the clutch - i.e. not covered under warranty).

My question is could my clutch have burnt out by him starting in 3rd all night? Could there be more to the story (of course there can be, but is there already enough evidence of why it burnt out?)
I don't drive it aggressively.
I have had the 2nd gear grind since purchase.
Should I put another stock clutch in?
And lastly, how much is this all going to cost me?
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Old 08-08-2011, 09:19 AM   #2
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Why isn't it covered under warranty? That is my question! It should be!!
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Old 08-08-2011, 09:39 AM   #3
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I also want to know why! At only 9 months old and 12k miles, the clutch should NOT be going out... But they said because it was a "wearable part" it wasn't covered by warranty. The hydraulics would have been, but they say the clutch is not.

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Old 08-08-2011, 11:18 AM   #4
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I also want to know why! At only 9 months old and 12k miles, the clutch should NOT be going out... But they said because it was a "wearable part" it wasn't covered by warranty. They hydraulics would have been, but they say the clutch is not.
The clutches in these are total crap. They are a parts bin part from the Cadillac too. They are not made for abuse or to last, any HP over stock and they become useless.
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Why isn't it covered under warranty? That is my question! It should be!!
It should be but the clutch is only covered only to a 12K defect warranty. But it should be covered under the bumper to bumper warranty.
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Old 08-08-2011, 11:45 AM   #6
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Wait, so nak3dsnake, so are you saying I just missed it being covered by warranty? (I have 12,500 miles) or that it will still be covered. Because as of right now I'm being told I'm going to have to foot the bill... But yeah, from everything I've read these clutches are about useless... The only upgrade I have is an Injen CAI, which should put my car at around/ just under 330 HP.
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Wait, so nak3dsnake, so are you saying I just missed it being covered by warranty? (I have 12,500 miles) or that it will still be covered. Because as of right now I'm being told I'm going to have to foot the bill... But yeah, from everything I've read these clutches are about useless... The only upgrade I have is an Injen CAI, which should put my car at around/ just under 330 HP.
Yeah, you just missed your warranty for wearable parts by 500 miles. GM's is only 12,000 miles. It a joke if you ask me.
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Yeah, it is... And I just got off the phone with them, he said, "Well, we can't find anything wrong with anything but the clutch, so it's not going to be covered by warranty. It looks like it's been driven pretty hard. It's gonna cost you $1600 for a new clutch."
Perfect, since I just have cash laying around and all... But like I said, I don't drive that car hard... It is my only car after all and I kinda needed it to stay out of the shop so I could make it to work and stuff... Really disappointed with Chevy right now...
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Yeah, it is... And I just got off the phone with them, he said, "Well, we can't find anything wrong with anything but the clutch, so it's not going to be covered by warranty. It looks like it's been driven pretty hard. It's gonna cost you $1600 for a new clutch."
Perfect, since I just have cash laying around and all... But like I said, I don't drive that car hard... It is my only car after all and I kinda needed it to stay out of the shop so I could make it to work and stuff... Really disappointed with Chevy right now...
1600 is way too much, even with install. Let me get you a part number.
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Old 08-08-2011, 12:09 PM   #10
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Thanks man. At least this happened while I was on vacation from work, but staying at home for the week...
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I found the flywheel and the pressure plate for the V6 by searching the catalog on gmpartsdirect. Total for the two before shipping was $404. But, the dealership already has me for $350 for looking at the clutch. Said it would go towards repairing it, but I doubt they meant labor... Is that all I would need though?
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I found the flywheel and the pressure plate for the V6 by searching the catalog on gmpartsdirect. Total for the two before shipping was $404. But, the dealership already has me for $350 for looking at the clutch. Said it would go towards repairing it, but I doubt they meant labor... Is that all I would need though?
Well if there's nothing wrong with the flywheel don't replace it. The clutch is part number is 24232924. GMpartsdirect.com its $242.48 to you door. That should be all you need.
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Oh ok thanks... Don't really know too much about the clutch mechanisms! But I just got off the phone with GEICO and I have mechanical breakdown coverage up to 100k miles and that covers the clutch! Said they may have to go look at it and take pictures, so we'll see. If they're still saying it "looks like it's been driven hard" then I'm scared I might not get covered. But anyway, if I am covered, a $250 deductible is all I'd have to pay. I love GEICO!
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Thank you so much for your help snake. I'll update as soon as I find out what's going to happen. Hoping for the best is all I can do for now... But if GEICO decides not to cover me, I'll definitely be going the gmpartsdirect route with that part number. Thank you again.
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Thank you so much for your help snake. I'll update as soon as I find out what's going to happen. Hoping for the best is all I can do for now... But if GEICO decides not to cover me, I'll definitely be going the gmpartsdirect route with that part number. Thank you again.
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Old 08-08-2011, 05:48 PM   #16
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OP, keep us posted on what happens!

I just took my SIM in for clutch issues w/ 6k miles. I also have Geico too, so I'm basically in the same boat.
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Old 08-10-2011, 01:59 PM   #17
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Ok, quick update:

I sent an email to Chevrolet from their "Contact Us" email on the Chevrolet.com website complaining about the clutch going out at 12k miles and that if this is how they make cars and treat their customers, then they just lost one. They called the very next day and said they were accepting my case and would send a regional technician to the dealership and inspect the problem and go from there. So, we'll see if GM covers it and owns up to the faulty clutches.

And, in reference to GEICO, they called yesterday and said they will be covering the clutch, all I have to do is pay the $250 deductible on the Mechanical Breakdown Insurance. You have to have that for it to be covered, not just regular insurance.

But, I told GEICO to hold on covering me because if GM *does* cover the repair, then I can save the $250 deductible (which I shouldn't have to be paying anyway because my clutch SHOULDN'T be going out this early!).

Sorry for the long winded response!
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Old 08-12-2011, 11:30 AM   #18
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Of course, typical Chevrolet, "We will not be able to cover the repairs as it is a burnt clutch and is caused by normal wear and tear."

My response, "Yes but it only has 12k miles and shouldn't be burnt out. It's a common problem with these Camaro's and it's well documented."

"Well sir we handle each case on a case-by-case basis."

"Ok, thanks for your help." or non-help...

At least GEICO cares about their customers. I can say I'll be a longtime customer of GEICO; however, Chevrolet is not looking too good right now. Where did the company forget about making good vehicles and having good customer service?
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