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Old 03-23-2009, 02:33 PM   #1
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Question 08 Cobalt Turbo Compared To 2010 Camaro V6?

I currently own a 08 cobalt ss turbo with the 2.0l turbo (260Hp 260lbs Tq). This car is pretty amazing for the price. The quickest i ran it was 13.67 secs 1/4 mile (with Drag Radials). But on average it runs stock maybe low 14's. 0-60 times were amazing hitting 5.7 secs on record.

My question is how do you think these V6 will compare to the cobalt ss Turbos?
From my understanding these camaros are pretty well built with an amazing v6 engine producing more Hp than some v8's. 0-60 times were rated at 6.1 secs but of course it depends on alot of things like weather. I say it can run 5.9 easily.

Do you think that these cars will be pretty close in a race? Aside from the 600lbs + difference in the camaro.

Iv always loved camaros and the look and the style of these new models are amazing. And these engines are even better. But i also enjoyed my lil sports car. I won quite a few races in it.

How do u guys compare the two as far as performance?
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Old 03-23-2009, 02:51 PM   #2
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i think the cobalt will take it down.
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Old 03-23-2009, 02:55 PM   #3
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My guess....0-60 runs the Cobalt will win every time, but in the 1/4 the Camaro is going to catch it and pass it every time.
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Old 03-23-2009, 03:01 PM   #4
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My guess....0-60 runs the Cobalt will win every time, but in the 1/4 the Camaro is going to catch it and pass it every time.
i dont think so. the cobalt ss/tc can do a 1/4 mile in 13.6. the camaro v6 best time was 14.4. so the cobalt ss/tc will take out the v6 camaro
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Old 03-23-2009, 03:02 PM   #5
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It'll feel lighter and quicker...as it should. It will be quicker. But the differences should be minimal based on your numbers.

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And, its not RWD.

In the 1/4 the Cobalt should edge it out a bit. It'll be close around a road course.
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Old 03-23-2009, 04:57 PM   #7
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The Camaro V6's are quicker than the vast majority of cars, especially in the $20's but several econo-performance cars like the Cobalt SS will be quicker.
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And, its not RWD.

In the 1/4 the Cobalt should edge it out a bit. It'll be close around a road course.
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u realize the cobalt ss was only 2-3 seconds slower in the nurburgring then the camaro SS right? thats saying alot for a car that has about 160hp less then the camaro. sure theres nearly 900lb weight advantage but 160hp is alot. so outperforming the v6 shouldnt be much of a problem. i know the v6 is no slouch, i'm well aware its capable of mid low 14's in the 1/4, but the cobalt is capable of low 14's high 13's. maybe all out accelleration might be close but on a road course i see the cobalt with a big win.
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Old 03-24-2009, 01:32 AM   #9
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u realize the cobalt ss was only 2-3 seconds slower in the nurburgring then the camaro SS right? thats saying alot for a car that has about 160hp less then the camaro. sure theres nearly 900lb weight advantage but 160hp is alot. so outperforming the v6 shouldnt be much of a problem. i know the v6 is no slouch, i'm well aware its capable of mid low 14's in the 1/4, but the cobalt is capable of low 14's high 13's. maybe all out accelleration might be close but on a road course i see the cobalt with a big win.
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Old 03-24-2009, 03:15 AM   #10
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I say get the camaro, it's like trading in a evo 9 for a 10 you lose performance but you gain practicality! Thats just my 2 cents! butwhat do i know im young and DUMB!
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o yeah i forgot the camaro needs sales!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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u realize the cobalt ss was only 2-3 seconds slower in the nurburgring then the camaro SS right? thats saying alot for a car that has about 160hp less then the camaro. sure theres nearly 900lb weight advantage but 160hp is alot. so outperforming the v6 shouldnt be much of a problem. i know the v6 is no slouch, i'm well aware its capable of mid low 14's in the 1/4, but the cobalt is capable of low 14's high 13's. maybe all out accelleration might be close but on a road course i see the cobalt with a big win.
Meh. We'll agree to disagree. Personally, I think the review results show that the V6 camaro will handle better than anybody thought it would.
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Old 03-24-2009, 02:13 PM   #13
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i dont think so. the cobalt ss/tc can do a 1/4 mile in 13.6. the camaro v6 best time was 14.4. so the cobalt ss/tc will take out the v6 camaro

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=6702

Not sure where you got 13.6 from, but Road and Track got "0–1320 ft (1/4 mile)
14.0 sec @ 101.8 mph"

for the 2008 Cobalt SS.

I haven't seen any numbers for the v6 Camaro except for official numbers from GM which are very likely conservative. It looks to me like they run the same 1/4 mile.
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Old 03-24-2009, 03:57 PM   #14
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v6 manual is 14.4 @98mph I do believe

0-60 in 6.1 yet I've heard 5.9
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Old 03-24-2009, 04:48 PM   #15
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yea cobalt SS/TC bests it , quicker, lighter , faster. It's also the fastest car in its class around the Nuremberg ring.
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Old 03-24-2009, 05:47 PM   #16
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The Cobalt may be faster, but I'd rather ride in a Camaro
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Old 03-24-2009, 07:25 PM   #18
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http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=6702

Not sure where you got 13.6 from, but Road and Track got "0–1320 ft (1/4 mile)
14.0 sec @ 101.8 mph"

for the 2008 Cobalt SS.

I haven't seen any numbers for the v6 Camaro except for official numbers from GM which are very likely conservative. It looks to me like they run the same 1/4 mile.
He said he ran 13.6 in his cobalt ss/tc! (with DR's)
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Meh. We'll agree to disagree. Personally, I think the review results show that the V6 camaro will handle better than anybody thought it would.
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Except me, Xanthos.

I've driven the Cobalt SS and the little 2.0 L SIDI Turbo is pretty awesome. Unfortunately you give up a lot in the Cobalt. Camaro is just too cool. Doesn't even have to be faster to be better.
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The v6 camaro has a great engine, however what really kills the camaro is the weight issue. hopefully in the up-coming years the camaro will lose a couple hundred pounds, id like to see the v6 hit the 1/4 in the mid 13's.
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Meh. We'll agree to disagree. Personally, I think the review results show that the V6 camaro will handle better than anybody thought it would.
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yes and all the reviews are saying the V6 bests the V8 as well, when the V8 was nurburgring tuned, so it should out do the V6 very easily.

now if i had the money to buy either car i'd choose the camaro over the cobalt. but if i was on a budget and had a choice between the v6 and cobalt ss, cobalt would get it. quicker, better handling, brembos, better mpg's. 1000 bucks gets u over 320whp, from 230. so a 90whp improvment for 1000 bucks is pretty damn good.
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Um... the Cobalt SS is about 24k bucks. So is a bare-bones 1LT. So price is not a factor.

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The v6 camaro has a great engine, however what really kills the camaro is the weight issue. hopefully in the up-coming years the camaro will lose a couple hundred pounds, id like to see the v6 hit the 1/4 in the mid 13's.
If if was that easy for the Camaro to lose a couple hundred pounds in the next few years, it would have weighed a couple hundred pounds less now.

At this point it would be substituting premium materials. Look at the Z06. An all aluminum frame, Carbon Fiber panels. All of that $$$$ only saved 160 pounds and some of that was taken back by the added weight of the powertain, wheels and brakes.

If it could be, it would be.
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If if was that easy for the Camaro to lose a couple hundred pounds in the next few years, it would have weighed a couple hundred pounds less now.

At this point it would be substituting premium materials. Look at the Z06. An all aluminum frame, Carbon Fiber panels. All of that $$$$ only saved 160 pounds and some of that was taken back by the added weight of the powertain, wheels and brakes.

If it could be, it would be.
I'm sure a lot of weight could be saved if we started dismantling safety equipment but I'm loathe to do that. Somebody suggested removing some of the less-essential bumper reinforcements, but its that one time that bites you. I hope to drop about 50 pounds total by the time my build is finished. I think a lot will come off when those huge mufflers get replaced.
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Old 04-16-2009, 06:40 PM   #25
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I own the same car the OP has and the Cobalt is just too much of a "boy racer" even if it is quick around the ring. I miss dougnuts and burnouts :( 500 WHP FWD Cobalt with brembos and you can't even find any rims around that fit it and look halfway decent that are lightweight and cheap ... I am trading in my Cobalt for a V6 Camaro and I will be modding the piss out of it .. Not too many Cobalts are going to be more then 300 WHP so if being different and have a rare car is your thing keep the balt. Not too many 10 second cobalts around .. FWD is just such a crappy platform IMO trq steer Cobalts Clutch is a big POS and they COST A MILLION DOLLARS + take 8 hours to install..

Camaro ATW unless you are in the Snowbelt and FWD is a must like most midwesterners know how much a RWD car is in the snow and ice the cobalt has EXCELLENT traction control and is basically an Economy car on roids. I haven't lost to a majority of people who test me in the car so it's still FUN AS HELL - I can't believ the guy above states practicality as being a reason not to own a cobalt when it's FWD/32 MPG's 300 HP 340 Lbs trq tuned Cheaper on insurrance RPD .. TOO FUNNY


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^ this feature can be had for the cobalts for around 600 bucks All the performance data you can handle. Displays just as much info as the NISSAN GTR but costs a few bucks ...
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