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Old 03-23-2009, 07:42 PM   #1
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Another shootout. This time: Popular Mechanics

Enjoy yet another comparison with the Big Three:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/blog...s/4309423.html
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Old 03-23-2009, 07:45 PM   #2
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damnit I really want to see one of the foreign guys thrown in there. These articles are just reenforcing opinions that the big3 are off in their own separate sub-par world.
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Old 03-23-2009, 08:31 PM   #3
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Hmm, a little disappointing to hear the wheel digs into your hand wrong. Well, if it is really a problem hopefully they'll craft a new one for the next MY. The Cobalt got a new wheel between model years.
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Old 03-23-2009, 08:36 PM   #4
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There aren't many foreign cars left other than the Eclipse. I guess you can throw in the 370Z, but it's full on sports car with only two seats.
The writer of the article says they think the Challenger might be the best looking. They must be crazy.
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Old 03-23-2009, 08:39 PM   #5
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Hmm, a little disappointing to hear the wheel digs into your hand wrong. Well, if it is really a problem hopefully they'll craft a new one for the next MY. The Cobalt got a new wheel between model years.
He was specifically complaining about when you're driving the car hard. I don't think it's much of a worry for the daily commute.
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Old 03-23-2009, 08:40 PM   #6
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There aren't many foreign cars left other than the Eclipse. I guess you can throw in the 370Z, but it's full on sports car with only two seats.
The writer of the article says they think the Challenger might be the best looking. They must be crazy.
They aren't. To me, the Challenger IS the best looking. No matter the color, that car is beautiful.
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Old 03-23-2009, 08:40 PM   #7
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They think the challenger looks the best. See the last couple lines.
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Old 03-23-2009, 08:41 PM   #8
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The writer of the article says they think the Challenger might be the best looking. They must be crazy.
Nah, both the Camaro and the Chally look great but in different ways. I (of course) like the Camaro a little better, but someone else could see it the other way. Now I would think they were on something if they said the Stang looked better than the other 2.
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Old 03-23-2009, 08:44 PM   #9
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He was specifically complaining about when you're driving the car hard. I don't think it's much of a worry for the daily commute.
Well I intend to live within a bike ride of work when I get this car. I'm not buying it for the daily commute. I'm buying it for the hard drives on our lovely mountain roads. So that is pretty much directed at me.
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Old 03-23-2009, 09:15 PM   #10
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The Challenger looked like a generic version of the 1st gen Camaro 39 years ago.
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Old 03-23-2009, 09:21 PM   #11
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I think all 3 look pretty cool. I do think the Challenger is the best looking by a slight margin, but it's way too much of a parts bin car. The Camaro is the modern retro marvel here.
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Old 03-23-2009, 09:28 PM   #12
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Nice article
"But there is something missing. As quick and as capable as the drivetrain and chassis is, the Chevy lacks a bit of that raw visceral emotion we were expecting. Is the Camaro too quiet, too polished–too un-Camarolike? Perhaps. But that's nothing a trip to the Summit Racing Equipment website won't fix. "
I can't wait to take care of that"too quiet" part
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Old 03-23-2009, 09:39 PM   #13
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But the BOTTOM LINE says..........And the Camaro's mix of power, poise and refinement just edges out the others–this time.

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Poor Mustang... YAWN... it looks like a 1998 Ford Taurus.
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Old 03-23-2009, 09:45 PM   #15
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"The Dodge's 5.7-liter Hemi produces 376 hp and 410 lb.-ft of torque. And our car came paired to a six-speed manual and a deep 3.92:1 rear end. But the Dodge weighs just over two tons so 60 mph comes up in 6.4 seconds and the 1/4-mile is dispatched in 14.4 seconds at 97 mph. It slowed from 60 mph in 126.9 feet."

wtf? Are those numbers right? Those are V6 Camaro numbers
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Old 03-23-2009, 09:46 PM   #16
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Old 03-23-2009, 09:49 PM   #17
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"The Dodge's 5.7-liter Hemi produces 376 hp and 410 lb.-ft of torque. And our car came paired to a six-speed manual and a deep 3.92:1 rear end. But the Dodge weighs just over two tons so 60 mph comes up in 6.4 seconds and the 1/4-mile is dispatched in 14.4 seconds at 97 mph. It slowed from 60 mph in 126.9 feet."

wtf? Are those numbers right? Those are V6 Camaro numbers
It's heavy. They built it more old school style. I admire the design myself I miss old style cars.
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Old 03-23-2009, 09:55 PM   #18
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I just love the fact that the Camaro seems to crush the competition in every comparison I have read. I have friends that own both the Mustang and the Chally, and they keep telling me that the Camaro won't keep up... I keep telling them they are idiots, guess I'll be able to prove them wrong in about a month or so since my car is supposed to be getting built this week.
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Old 03-23-2009, 10:26 PM   #19
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As we thought: the Camaro is the best all around pony car on the market.
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Old 03-23-2009, 10:29 PM   #20
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So how does this chassis work compared to the Mustang GT and Challenger R/T? Brilliantly. On both the tight corners and long sweeping bends of the country roads in South San Diego County, we were not able to find the limits of the suspension or tires. The Camaro engineers have masterfully masked the fact that it weights almost two tons. Back in the city, that capable suspension does not punish the driver when the big Camaro SS hits broken pavement and potholes. The ride is smooth, supple and refined–nearly on par with the softer-tuned Dodge Challenger R/T
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Old 03-23-2009, 10:41 PM   #21
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Wow, they have crappy drivers at Popular Mechanics.
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Wow, they have crappy drivers at Popular Mechanics.
Translation: I about to cry because the Mustang is so dang slow.
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Old 03-23-2009, 10:48 PM   #23
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I'm getting a little annoyed w/ these "Shootouts" so far, it looks to me like they are all regurgitating the 13.0/111 numbers they all seem to have run at GM's press event (in Michigan in the cold) and throwing up some numbers from the other two. They were way off the average times for the GT and R/T in this test, yet still post a 13.0/111 for the Camaro? I don't think so. I think the Camaro can do better in warmer weather where it can get some traction...

And PM did not run the times for those cars on that track posted in the pictures, that is a 1/8th mile track from what I found on that Net (Barona 1/8 mile track, elevation 1600 ft).


Edmunds specifically posted in their written report that they took the SS numbers from GM's proving grounds and DIDN'T actually directly test the cars against each other (they ran the GT and R/T in SoCal, no doubt warmer), despite the pictures of the silver SS with the R/T and GT... Looks like Motortrend did the same thing too.

Thats a bunch of crap.


I want a 100% true same-day same-track same-driver test of these three....
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Old 03-23-2009, 10:49 PM   #24
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Im sure i can get better than a 5.6 in the mustang or 6.4 in the challenger thats way too weak
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Old 03-24-2009, 12:36 AM   #25
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Challenger just does not look quite right to me w/o the SRT-style hood stripes. That 70's leisure-suit style retro R/T side stripe package is hideous. And what the hell is taking so long to get one in Plum Crazy?
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