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Old 08-10-2011, 11:43 AM   #1
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Upgraded 21" Rims Do I own the 20" Rims

My dad just recently bought his 2SS/RS Vert a month ago and got the 21" wheel upgrade and never got his RS OEM rims from the dealer. Reading around It looks like the dealer should of given him the RS rims and tires back.

Called the dealership that we bought the car from. Asked him where the tires were because he heard that he was suppose to take delivery of them too. The dealer told us that the 21" rims are a Factory "Dealer" Installed option. Which is different then a Dealer Installed option. He said that they had to ship back the RS rims to the factory upon putting the new rims on the car. Which to me doesn't make sense that a factory would send out the rims and have to ship them back to the factory. They wouldn't be considered new then.. and they are putting used RS rims on new cars... Correct me if I'm wrong.

Do you think that the dealer is lying to us? Does he own the RS tires?
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My dad just recently bought his 2SS/RS Vert a month ago and got the 21" wheel upgrade and never got his RS OEM rims from the dealer. Reading around It looks like the dealer should of given him the RS rims and tires back.

Called the dealership that we bought the car from. Asked him where the tires were because he heard that he was suppose to take delivery of them too. John (Dealer) told us that the 21" rims are a Factory "Dealer" Installed option. Which is different then a Dealer Installed option. He said that they had to ship back the RS rims to the factory upon putting the new rims on the car. Which to me doesn't make sense that a factory would send out the rims and have to ship them back to the factory. They wouldn't be considered new then.. and they are putting used RS rims on new cars... Correct me if I'm wrong.

Do you think that John is lying to us? Does he own the RS tires?

Report the dealership to GM, they absolutely stole from you and he is lying his ass off. Look at my sig.
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Old 08-10-2011, 12:00 PM   #3
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You should own two sets of wheels.
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Old 08-10-2011, 12:07 PM   #4
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I think this might be a bit different then the post from yesterday. Was this actually called an upgrade, or was it a purchased option? Also what did you pay?

If you opted for 21 inch wheel upgrade and paid a nominal difference, then I don't think you should have 2 sets.

Maybe I am looking at this wrong.
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Old 08-10-2011, 12:09 PM   #5
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You're supposed to have both, yes.
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Old 08-10-2011, 12:13 PM   #6
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NO way that GM would waste money shipping out 20" wheels and tires just to have the dealer ship them back. If GM wanted to keep the 20" wheels they'd have installed the 21" wheels at the factory like they do with the 20" polished wheel upgrade. The factory keeps the 20" non-upgraded wheels.
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Old 08-10-2011, 12:19 PM   #7
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The only way you can get 21"s on your Camaro is to order the 21" option (a dealer installed package for something like $4700) or buy them aftermarket. In either case, you will end up with 2 sets of tires and wheels, because you are doing the same thing...buying 4 more wheels and tires to replace the ones it rolled out of the factory on.

The Dealer is stealing from you.....I can't tell you what to do, but I would require a few 5 gallon cans of gasoline, a few road flares, a shower curtain, a monkey, and a 9 iron to have total satisfaction in your situation.
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Old 08-10-2011, 12:30 PM   #8
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Old 08-10-2011, 12:33 PM   #9
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This again???
I saw this from the other thread. But he bought his off of the lot with the rim's already on the car. This one was ordered.
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Old 08-10-2011, 12:34 PM   #10
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I think this might be a bit different then the post from yesterday. Was this actually called an upgrade, or was it a purchased option? Also what did you pay?

If you opted for 21 inch wheel upgrade and paid a nominal difference, then I don't think you should have 2 sets.

Maybe I am looking at this wrong.
I thought this too, But I calculated what he paid for the car. There was no differance taken off. Still payed full for the RS package on a 2SS ($1300) and full price for the upgraded 21" rims/tires ($4865)
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Old 08-10-2011, 12:45 PM   #11
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I thought this too, But I calculated what he paid for the car. There was no differance taken off. Still payed full for the RS package on a 2SS ($1300) and full price for the upgraded 21" rims/tires ($4865)
Then yes, you should have 2 set of rims!! Some dealers are such theives!!
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Old 08-10-2011, 12:55 PM   #12
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Dealer just said that the rim's were shipped back to Iowa... Idiot Camaro's are built in Oshawa, Ontario, Canada!

Catching a dealer lying in the act is priceless.. They are still saying they had to ship them back.. Calling GM now
Wow, just WOW!
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Old 08-10-2011, 12:57 PM   #13
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Dealer just said that the rim's were shipped back to Iowa... Idiot Camaro's are built in Oshawa, Ontario, Canada!

Catching a dealer lying in the act is priceless.. They are still saying they had to ship them back.. Calling GM now
I'd call and demand to speak with the manager. Tell him if he cannot produce your rims, you'll be putting a call into GM corporate by days end.
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Here we go again.......
Whether is was a lot car or ordered, the 21" wheels are installed at the dealer and were paid for by the consumer, (to the tune of $4,700ish, it's on the window sticker) when the car was purchased. The purchase of the 21" rims and tires does not negate the fact that the car came with 20" rims and tires which the consumer also paid for with the RS option.

The 2 sets of rims and tires go with the car upon delivery, period!

If they say they sent the 20" rims and tire back (which is BS) they need to order you a new set of 20" rims and tires.
Make sure they are new and not used or damaged in any way.
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I wanna see how this turns out.
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Old 08-10-2011, 01:08 PM   #16
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My dad just recently bought his 2SS/RS Vert a month ago and got the 21" wheel upgrade and never got his RS OEM rims from the dealer. Reading around It looks like the dealer should of given him the RS rims and tires back.

Called the dealership that we bought the car from. Asked him where the tires were because he heard that he was suppose to take delivery of them too. The dealer told us that the 21" rims are a Factory "Dealer" Installed option. Which is different then a Dealer Installed option. He said that they had to ship back the RS rims to the factory upon putting the new rims on the car. Which to me doesn't make sense that a factory would send out the rims and have to ship them back to the factory. They wouldn't be considered new then.. and they are putting used RS rims on new cars... Correct me if I'm wrong.

Do you think that the dealer is lying to us? Does he own the RS tires?
That dealer absolutely owes a set of wheels/ tires to you. When you order the RS/ SS with the 21" wheel upgrade you get the 20's with the car as well. REPORT that dealer ASAP. I would make them either produce the wheels or offer you the equivalent of cash or i would take further action. And i'd still report them.
There's probably an employee driving around with your wheels on his S-10
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Old 08-10-2011, 02:20 PM   #17
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Here we go again.......
Whether is was a lot car or ordered, the 21" wheels are installed at the dealer and were paid for by the consumer, (to the tune of $4,700ish, it's on the window sticker) when the car was purchased. The purchase of the 21" rims and tires does not negate the fact that the car came with 20" rims and tires which the consumer also paid for with the RS option.

The 2 sets of rims and tires go with the car upon delivery, period!

If they say they sent the 20" rims and tire back (which is BS) they need to order you a new set of 20" rims and tires.
Make sure they are new and not used or damaged in any way.
I agree 100%. I would almost be at the point of calling the police. Sounds like Grand Theft to me.
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Dealer just said that the rim's were shipped back to Iowa... Idiot Camaro's are built in Oshawa, Ontario, Canada!

Catching a dealer lying in the act is priceless.. They are still saying they had to ship them back.. Calling GM now

He probably told the truth. He shipped them to the guy he sold them to in Iowa.
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Old 08-10-2011, 02:48 PM   #19
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Still figuring everything out. But talked to a dealership in Texas that my dad sell parts to. He's sold lots of Camaro's down in Houston, TX. Knew right away what we were talking about and said that we do own 2 sets of rims.

Found out that Iowa is were GM gets the rims made. Since they are Aftermarket they are not made at the factory. We think the dealership probably has a deal with them to send the rims back and they get a little $ out of the deal.

I doubt they get a kickback from sending those rims back. WTF are they going to do with factory rims anyways? That makes no sense. It makes more sense that the dealer kept it and like someone else mentioned, one of the employees is running it on his S-10.
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Sounds like you're going to be $1000 or so richer in the near future.
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what did you pay for the upgraded wheels, alot less than 4700 and i would say no you shouldnt get them, but if 4700 then they ripped you off..
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Old 08-10-2011, 03:59 PM   #24
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what did you pay for the upgraded wheels, alot less than 4700 and i would say no you shouldnt get them, but if 4700 then they ripped you off..
More then $4700
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bastard dealership, totally stole from you.
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