Dilemma

[1BAD_SS]

i have a small dilema on my hands, i will be getting a camaro SS problaly in a year... right now i drive a Dodge neon SRT4 i was planning to use this car as a trade in but it looks like i will have to change my plans my little brother will be going away to collage in a year and he dosent have a car so i will be handing downt my srt-4 there goes my downpayment..:(
but hey i guess family comes first. and he dosent have a job its not like he could buy it from me.. hes not lazy hes a really smart kid parents told him to concentrate on his school work. what u guys think?

[KEEP RT]

Time to learn more than school academics. School of life. Was the srt-4 given to you? Did your parents give you a car when you went to collage? Let them do it again if so. I know you love your brother but it will never end and where does the obligation lye? I say no.

[mywifesnameishonda]

Originally Posted by KEEP RT

Time to learn more than school academics. School of life. Was the srt-4 given to you? Did your parents give you a car when you went to collage? Let them do it again if so. I know you love your brother but it will never end and where does the obligation lye? I say no.

did you go to "collage"?

[KEEP RT]

Originally Posted by mywifesnameishonda

did you go to "collage"?

No, but I've worked sense I was 16. Spent 6 years in the USAF. Worked my way up in every job I've had and currently own 2 companies. Not one thing was given to me except opportunities. They are there but you have to work for them and I can say that I will not hold back anyone that wants to get ahead, just don't take from others what isn't given and repay what is.

[bhall82]

Not one thing was given to me except opportunities. They are there but you have to work for them and I can say that I will not hold back anyone that wants to get ahead, just don't take from others what isn't given and repay what is.


Good for you Brian. Seems as if you are appreciative and know where you've been and where you're going. Congrats bro.

[KEEP RT]

Thank you bhall82. I'm willing to help others on their way too, but no "freebe" hand outs just help. The best things I have I earned and I believe here in the land of opportunity we all have a shot or two. Lord knows our government wants us to succeed that means more taxes for them. OP, I don't mean to be harsh but he can get a $500 beater for collage and he'll look back and have learned more about earning that "POS" than any other car he'll ever have.

[PIPE]

RESPECT and RESPONSIBILITY is never learned by having things given to a person

[steeleshark2]

How is he going to afford gas and insurance without a job?

[Transformed]

College - it's college.....

[1BAD_SS]

Originally Posted by KEEP RT

Time to learn more than school academics. School of life. Was the srt-4 given to you? Did your parents give you a car when you went to collage? Let them do it again if so. I know you love your brother but it will never end and where does the obligation lye? I say no.

no the car was not given to me, i paid for it.. and he has worked summers before but like i said he cant afford it from me unless i pretty much give away the car to him, he is a good kid smart really smart and my parents are just giving him a good opportunity to focus on his shcool i imagine that when he goes to college he will need a partime job to maintain the car. i never went to college i dont want him to make the same mistake its just that it puts me in a tougher situation when it comes to getting my camaro.

[insidethreat07]

I think if he would get a beater for college, that would want to make him work harder in school and hopefully once he graduates, he can have a car he is truely proud of, say a camaro.

[rachykells]

AHH! Finally someone caught the misspelling. haha.

OP: I think that's really nice of you to hand down the car. Do you have another car that you'd be driving? Maybe you can trade that in instead, or save up some cash until you have a nice little chunk of cash for d.p. on the SS?

I'm not very close to my brother, so there's no way in heck I'd hand down a car to him.

[Rogue Leader]

IMO you and him would best be served picking him up a nice $500 car if you wanna help him out and put that SRT-4 down on your Camaro. Its too fast and likely too nice to be a good first car for him. Also expensive to fix and requires premium fuel. If he doesn't have a job its going to be a burden to say the least.

[RangerMan]

Its just like you said, "family comes first" Your lil bro will definitely appreciate you if you give him your car for him to start off college with. You still have a whole year to come up with a down payment for the SS. In the future, this good deed that you do for your brother may come back to you many times over in very positive ways. He will graduate college, get an awesome paying job and he then may come up to one day and say, "hey big bro, remember when you gave me your car and sacrificed your down payment, well here's the money for the car....Thanks!!!"

[Ironheadspearo]

why would you HAVE to give him the car you payed for? this doesnt sound right to me..... im thinking you had help from mom and dad to get the neon. now they expect you to give it to junior.

[1BAD_SS]

Originally Posted by Ironheadspearo

why would you HAVE to give him the car you payed for? this doesnt sound right to me..... im thinking you had help from mom and dad to get the neon. now they expect you to give it to junior.

no its not that i HAVE to, like i said i just want to help him out maybe we could work something out at a discounted prize... and no my parents did not help me out im 24 i have had the car for a couple of years now, i paid cash for it(not a whole lot 10k) because i did not want a car payment at the time. i been saving up money but i dont really want to use that as a down payment i have a wife and a baby so i know i have other responsibilities.

[5thGenOwner]

Originally Posted by Rogue Leader

IMO you and him would best be served picking him up a nice $500 car if you wanna help him out and put that SRT-4 down on your Camaro. Its too fast and likely too nice to be a good first car for him. Also expensive to fix and requires premium fuel. If he doesn't have a job its going to be a burden to say the least.

I think these are some words of wisdom.

No one is saying not to help your brother out, they are just saying that giving him your SRT-4 probably isn't the wisest overall move. It is tough to think without your heart, we are human, but it is necessary to make the best overall decision.

From personal experience, second-hand experience, and plain old history I have learned... earning something myself is worth more than all the free gifts in the universe. Respect goes hand in hand with this lesson, as I work harder for my posessions/goals I gain more and more respect for the effort it took to achieve them.

I know you didn't ask for a therapy lesson, but I just wanted to elaborate on the benefits of not giving to those who are capable.

[1BAD_SS]

Originally Posted by 5thGenOwner

I think these are some words of wisdom.

No one is saying not to help your brother out, they are just saying that giving him your SRT-4 probably isn't the wisest overall move. It is tough to think without your heart, we are human, but it is necessary to make the best overall decision.

From personal experience, second-hand experience, and plain old history I have learned... earning something myself is worth more than all the free gifts in the universe. Respect goes hand in hand with this lesson, as I work harder for my posessions/goals I gain more and more respect for the effort it took to achieve them.

I know you didn't ask for a therapy lesson, but I just wanted to elaborate on the benefits of not giving to those who are capable.

Thanks to all of you for responding i really appreciate all the feedback what you guys are makes alot of sense all of you have given me alot to think about

[Baba]

Originally Posted by RangerMan

Its just like you said, "family comes first" Your lil bro will definitely appreciate you if you give him your car for him to start off college with. You still have a whole year to come up with a down payment for the SS. In the future, this good deed that you do for your brother may come back to you many times over in very positive ways. He will graduate college, get an awesome paying job and he then may come up to one day and say, "hey big bro, remember when you gave me your car and sacrificed your down payment, well here's the money for the car....Thanks!!!"

I couldn't agree more, on several levels. There's something to this "transaction" that goes beyond "materialism". It's family. It's thinking beyond one's self.

I do, however, have a few of questions for you (rhetorically speaking - ie; for you to think about). Is your brother going to a local college or will he be going away / living on campus? Unless he's going to a local college (where commuting is the norm), let him "walk" as most other kids do. That's not being cruel. That's a fact of life. I , too, would've liked to have had my own wheels and off-campus "pad" too. Instead, I had to catch a 300+ mile ride home with friends / train during school breaks and my folks came and picked me up after the Spring semester was over when you had to move out of your dorm and haul all that crap back home for the summer.

There are limits - some are self-imposed most are imposed by someone else.
Help your brother understand and learn what it means to "live within one's means". It's a valuable lesson best learned early in life.

As RangerMan mentioned, the SS is a most powerful machine. Runs on premium gas, will cost a small fortune to insure and exact a king's ransom in car payments over the time you own it - unless you're putting down BEAUCOUPS bucks.

Anyone can just about buy any car they want - but can the person really afford it? Can you? What about your brother's "commuting" situation?

Knowing what I've learned over the past 30 years since I've owned my 1st car - go inexpensive (that doesn't necessarily mean "cheap") - either used or new. Don't tie yourself down with financial obligations that may have you so plowed under that pursuing another path in life is pretty much a "no-go" because you've got too many financial obligations. Heck, if you have to have an SS, buy a used one.

Frankly, these are some of the "challenges" we're all faced with in life. Think about it. Speak with your folks and your brother - dont' ask a bunch of strangers because we may have different family / life situations (from what I gather on several forums I'm on, there are a host of "seasoned" (read; "older") people who've been in the workforce for 15, 20, 30 years and beyond (or retired) who've completed their education, purchased their own homes and can afford a car like this. Sure, a young(er) person is always going to look better behind the wheel of Camaro but who's really footing the bill and at what "cost"?

Think about it and make the decision that is best for you and your brother as well as perhaps eases the burden on your folks, as well.

[1BAD_SS]

Originally Posted by Baba

I couldn't agree more, on several levels. There's something to this "transaction" that goes beyond "materialism". It's family. It's thinking beyond one's self.

I do, however, have a few of questions for you (rhetorically speaking - ie; for you to think about). Is your brother going to a local college or will he be going away / living on campus? Unless he's going to a local college (where commuting is the norm), let him "walk" as most other kids do. That's not being cruel. That's a fact of life. I , too, would've liked to have had my own wheels and off-campus "pad" too. Instead, I had to catch a 300+ mile ride home with friends / train during school breaks and my folks came and picked me up after the Spring semester was over when you had to move out of your dorm and haul all that crap back home for the summer.

There are limits - some are self-imposed most are imposed by someone else.
Help your brother understand and learn what it means to "live within one's means". It's a valuable lesson best learned early in life.

As RangerMan mentioned, the SS is a most powerful machine. Runs on premium gas, will cost a small fortune to insure and exact a king's ransom in car payments over the time you own it - unless you're putting down BEAUCOUPS bucks.

Anyone can just about buy any car they want - but can the person really afford it? Can you? What about your brother's "commuting" situation?

Knowing what I've learned over the past 30 years since I've owned my 1st car - go inexpensive (that doesn't necessarily mean "cheap") - either used or new. Don't tie yourself down with financial obligations that may have you so plowed under that pursuing another path in life is pretty much a "no-go" because you've got too many financial obligations. Heck, if you have to have an SS, buy a used one.

Frankly, these are some of the "challenges" we're all faced with in life. Think about it. Speak with your folks and your brother - dont' ask a bunch of strangers because we may have different family / life situations (from what I gather on several forums I'm on, there are a host of "seasoned" (read; "older") people who've been in the workforce for 15, 20, 30 years and beyond (or retired) who've completed their education, purchased their own homes and can afford a car like this. Sure, a young(er) person is always going to look better behind the wheel of Camaro but who's really footing the bill and at what "cost"?

Think about it and make the decision that is best for you and your brother as well as perhaps eases the burden on your folks, as well.

Thanks for your comments and your right thats one of the biggest reasons that i still dont have a camaro, i refused to buy a new one when they firts came out 35k was just to much money for me.. i have a family now and have to take care of my wife and kid the reason im putting off now is because not to long ago i got my wife a used chrysler 300 so her and the baby are able to move in a realiable car. When i do purchase my SS it will me a 2010 i just hope i find one with low miles and hopefully the previous owner has not abused it to much...

[Neuf Cruz]

Didn't read through thoroughly so if already suggested please forgive!
Not sure what it's worth but what about selling the SRT, then buy your little bro a car and then you use the rest as you please. better than starting from scartch and you still take care of family!

neuf cruz

[KEEP RT]

1BAD_SS It seems to everyone here that feels that you are noble and caring of others. Sometimes ones that have struggled often don't want loved ones to go through what they did, and they don't have to with the right help and encouragement. I respect you and it's your decision, but you could work a deal with him to get his own Cheap Car. You can get him started with out sacrifice on your part. You don't have to sacrifice to help or show love. Best of luck. Best wishes.