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Old 03-24-2009, 10:25 PM   #1
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Check TPWs Again!

Ok guys, it seems that one other member has had their TPW pushed back a month!
So for those who have gotten a TPW, including myself, i really suggest that you check again with your dealer to see if your TPW has changed.
I was all happy, but now im in fear of what my dealer will tell me when i get him to check tommorow.
So hopefully, this doesnt happen to everyone because one month and a bit is a huge delay!
So guys, i just advise you guys all check ASAP to make sure and report back to this thread if it had changed or not. Thanks guys
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Old 03-25-2009, 01:59 AM   #2
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I still never got a TPW. My order was pulled for production over 3 weeks ago, but has had no change in status since. Dunno whats going on and neither does my dealer. Guess I'll just have to wait and see what happens.
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Old 03-25-2009, 10:48 AM   #3
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Hey, TJ. You talking about OUR72GTO? He commented that it seems production may be running behind as his TPW is moved from two weeks ago back to May 4th and another car at his dealership was pushed back 2 weeks to April 6th. Of course that is in Canada, but if they've now scheduled 17 Saturdays to be worked, I'm afraid we may see this become more widespread.
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Not worried. However if I get the call from my dealership confirming this, somebody is going through a wall.
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Old 03-25-2009, 12:13 PM   #5
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Old 03-25-2009, 02:58 PM   #6
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Just told my dealer to check, he called back and mine has been moved to May 4th, no reasons why. This is just getting retarded now. I wonder what the actual reason is!
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Old 03-25-2009, 03:05 PM   #7
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Ok guys, it seems that one other member has had their TPW pushed back a month!
So for those who have gotten a TPW, including myself, i really suggest that you check again with your dealer to see if your TPW has changed.
I was all happy, but now im in fear of what my dealer will tell me when i get him to check tommorow.
So hopefully, this doesnt happen to everyone because one month and a bit is a huge delay!
So guys, i just advise you guys all check ASAP to make sure and report back to this thread if it had changed or not. Thanks guys
Here's an excerpt from a message that was posted on GM's message board on Global Connect by Ed Peper.

"Ship to Commerce "

"Although production starts today, the actual shipments of produced units will not take place for at least a week to ten days as initial production quality reviews take place. Only after those reviews are completed will ship to commerce begin.

amaro Unveiling Activity May 6, 2009

Orders are already at the plant scheduled to be built and shipped to you for the Camaro unveiling activity. These units are not showing as in system or in bound units because they are ordered under a special account. As the units are produced and released for shipment, they will be reassigned to a dealership and then shipped. Only then will a dealer see an inbound unit on their reports.



As a reminder, these preordered units will be in one of four models and colors and all of them equipped with the award winning 3.6L V-6 that achieves 29 MPG HWY and 304 Horsepower. These units are over and above the initial estimated retail production guide numbers previously provided, and will be invoiced as they are assigned to dealers. The assignment of vehicles will be at random and the dealership cannot make any changes as the units will have already been built.



It is expected every dealership will have at least one unit in time for the reveal on May 6, and in some cases, well before that date. Although we would prefer you to hold this unit until May 6, it is a dealership retail unit, and there are no restrictions to delivering it before May 6.



More information regarding this activity and the availability of point of sales material will be provided in the near future."


Just some info for you guys who are wondering where your car is. I looked at the locator and there are still ZERO vehicles showing up as "delivered". I am almost positive GM has not shipped a single Camaro to a dealer yet.
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Old 03-25-2009, 04:03 PM   #8
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I think that post belongs in the "shipping thread" ...this one is about revised TPW.
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Old 03-25-2009, 04:09 PM   #9
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Here's an excerpt from a message that was posted on GM's message board on Global Connect by Ed Peper.
I think this announcement may be related to this thread I started:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16596

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Old 03-25-2009, 05:43 PM   #10
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Just told my dealer to check, he called back and mine has been moved to May 4th, no reasons why. This is just getting retarded now. I wonder what the actual reason is!
What was your TPW?
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Old 03-25-2009, 05:51 PM   #11
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Does this appear to be limited to Canadian orders? Has anybody in the US been told that their TPW has been pushed back?

I'm finding this really hard to stomach for you guys, even if it won't end up affecting me. IF this not just a few isolated orders, this is completely unacceptable.
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Old 03-25-2009, 06:30 PM   #12
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I called a few weeks ago and was given 3/31 I din't see that happening realistacly since I was 8th out of 13th back then. I knew production had started earlier than the 16th but still. I'm not sure how accurate these dates are going to be in the start. I would go more on what order (prioraty) your dealer has gotten to.
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Old 03-25-2009, 06:36 PM   #13
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I ordered my 2LT/RS/Blk on Blk 6MNT on 11/12/08.
Finally today my dealer advised that I was preferenced (code 2500) yesterday (3/24).Still along way to go, but at least this is something.

My dealer is a mid-size Chevy/Cadillac/Buick dealer and there have been 5 Camaros ordered through that dealer (I am # 1 on the list).

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Old 03-25-2009, 08:55 PM   #14
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I had a TPW of April 20th, nows its May 4th.
GTO was supposed to be checking for a vin this week, but his has been pushed back to May 4th as well.
The worst thing about this, is that your dealer does not get notified, its just changes itself on the workbench and you have to get your dealer to check. Im telling my dealer to check every week because now i have a fear of it being pushed further back. I dont see how GTOS order got pushed back to May 4th, and mine is the same date. Wouldnt that mean that all of those orders that were behind GTO up to me would also be on the 4th of May? Do you understand what i mean?
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Old 03-25-2009, 10:50 PM   #15
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I checked with my dealer today and TPW is still 3/23/09. And recently went from 3300 to 3400. I am now sh!tting my pants if there will be a long delay. A short delay will be ok for me but anything past 1st May willl be disasterous as I want for that day for my kids Birthday!
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Old 03-25-2009, 11:10 PM   #16
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I checked with my dealer today and TPW is still 3/23/09. And recently went from 3300 to 3400. I am now sh!tting my pants if there will be a long delay. A short delay will be ok for me but anything past 1st May willl be disasterous as I want for that day for my kids Birthday!
You may have a VIN by now. If not, you should by Friday evening.
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I dont see how GTOS order got pushed back to May 4th, and mine is the same date. Wouldnt that mean that all of those orders that were behind GTO up to me would also be on the 4th of May? Do you understand what i mean?
I think so... The Ed Peper message says three interesting things:

1) Only after those reviews are completed will ship to commerce begin.
2) Unveiling Activity May 6, 2009.
3) As the units are produced and released for shipment, they will be reassigned to a dealership and then shipped.

Combine that with the notion of:

1) My CSR said that cars are being produced but are not being shipped to dealers until a later date.
2) fbodfather spoke about the Camaros in the GM lot are awaiting manufacturer fixes before they can be considered complete.
3) There are no confirmed deliveries yet in Canada?

Sounds to me like GM (Canada anyways) is/has produced a bunch of pre-oders and dealer cars (again some may be on the GM lot awaiting manufacturer fixes) and they intend on a mass delivery effort to co-ordinate the unveiling activity for May 6th. Perhaps they want cars in the showroom at about the same time we take delivery... likely for sales reasons.

Maybe it's just me...
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Sounds to me like GM (Canada anyways) is/has produced a bunch of pre-oders and dealer cars (again some may be on the GM lot awaiting manufacturer fixes) and they intend on a mass delivery effort to co-ordinate the unveiling activity for May 6th. Perhaps they want cars in the showroom at about the same time we take delivery... likely for sales reasons.

Maybe it's just me...
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If that were true , the V8 that had the same TPW as mine (23/03/09) would be "pushed back" with me all the way to May. It was only pushed back to April 6th.

I think we are going to find.

1) Canada's V6 ( 50% of 1st built) have been ALL pushed back by the May 6th event in the USA. Dealer V6 NOT in allotments.

2) The push to build the USA event cars has only slowed the V8's for Canada rather than having pushed them back and only because the body's are not there.

Dealers have not been made aware of ANY "event" for Canada.

I doubt Mr Pepper has any responsibly on the Canadian side of the border so his comments are aimed only at the USA.

It is possible some SENIOR brain has decided no CAMARO will be on the road in CANADA before the May 6th EVENT but why do that in Canada if it was not the case in the USA?

Matrix had the same TPW as me and he says's it has not changed for his V8.
Zone office originally pulled his and my order the same week in Feb.
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Being pushed back on your TPW doesn't equate to a given delivery date. I believe they are being built, have been built or are to be built soon.... but delivery is another deal onto itself. I'll await confirmation of an actual Camaro delivery before I'll re-think the information.

I agree that Mr Peper doesn't speak for Canada and maybe May 6th is a US only date but if the US is doing an unveil .... then it's not a stretch for Canada to do the same (whatever the date).

Or course... I may be way off base too!

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If that were true , the V8 that had the same TPW as mine (23/03/09) would be "pushed back" with me all the way to May. It was only pushed back to April 6th.

I think we are going to find.

1) Canada's V6 ( 50% of 1st built) have been ALL pushed back by the May 6th event in the USA. Dealer V6 NOT in allotments.

2) The push to build the USA event cars has only slowed the V8's for Canada rather than having pushed them back and only because the body's are not there.

Dealers have not been made aware of ANY "event" for Canada.

I doubt Mr Pepper has any responsibly on the Canadian side of the border so his comments are aimed only at the USA.

It is possible some SENIOR brain has decided no CAMARO will be on the road in CANADA before the May 6th EVENT but why do that in Canada if it was not the case in the USA?

Matrix had the same TPW as me and he says's it has not changed for his V8.
Zone office originally pulled his and my order the same week in Feb.


I checked with my dealer again today. No constraints on V8... just hurst shifter. Luckily I dont have that shifter.

There was no push back of TPW/build date. Nothing has been constrained on my order.

At least for now!
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Went in to see my dealer tonight, I'm still @ TPW April 27....
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OH.. I don't have constraints on mine either.!!

No constraints on the dealers V8 ...just a "PUSHED BACK" TPW.

Just a REVISED production week FOR BOTH.
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Same with me and the V8 before me, i find this quite odd. Hope it doesnt get pushed back further
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I checked with my dealer again today. No constraints on V8... just hurst shifter. Luckily I dont have that shifter.

There was no push back of TPW/build date. Nothing has been constrained on my order.

At least for now!
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The build week ends tommorrow. When will they tell you if you have a VIN?
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