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Old 03-25-2009, 05:55 PM   #35
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If you want a 4 Door Sedan be my guest..
Otherwise Enjoy Camaro.. have a coke and a smile...
Check the Camaro's curb weight and the Zeta platform it's rolling on.

The Camaro IS a 4 door sedan......
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Old 03-25-2009, 09:54 PM   #36
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i'm not dissapointed with the camaro's numbers at all, i'm just a little bothered that the GXP guys are faster. but it's still a drivers race and i'm sure a few bolt ons can fix this.



i'm happy that i'm waiting until 2011. we not only get more color options, ABL, and better pricing, but we might get a faster SS.
PLEASE SAY IT'S NOT SO GUYS!? that just wouldnt seem far to the enthusiasts...
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Old 03-25-2009, 10:10 PM   #37
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same, my friend could be driving like 80 one minute, then(on an empty road) floor it fourth, and seemingly a few seconds later you'd already be going well over 150 easily. Then you could slow back down momentarily like it was nothing and do it all again if you want. That is a fast ****in car. I can't believe the stock camaro will be even faster. I can't wait to get mine and put a hot cam on it!!!
eh, speed is all relative. I thought the GTO was a good base to start off with, but not FAST. Don't get me wrong, I don't think my car is fast either, it's not even a car/power range to aim for. I think fast STARTS in the 550-600 rwhp range +, and that's just the BEGINNING.

Then again, that's just my opinion.
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Old 03-25-2009, 10:10 PM   #38
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PLEASE SAY IT'S NOT SO GUYS!? that just wouldnt seem far to the enthusiasts...
in what way?
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Old 03-25-2009, 10:17 PM   #39
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wtf?




so those snot nosed teenagers in the new cobalt SS will be able to go faster than me?




this is unfair
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Old 03-25-2009, 10:30 PM   #40
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You do know that a an LT will go 155mph too right? You'll get there faster than either it or the cobalt, but they'll all go that fast.
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Old 03-26-2009, 07:51 AM   #41
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Old 03-26-2009, 07:54 AM   #42
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Guys don't worry about your top speed, that governor goes away with an ECM/TCM tune.

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Old 03-26-2009, 08:58 AM   #43
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wtf?




so those snot nosed teenagers in the new cobalt SS will be able to go faster than me?




this is unfair
Snot nosed teenagers huh! Unfair? The cobalt ss is one hell of a performer, and the base is 2k above the base Camaro, so how is it unfair. Some people buy the cobalt ss because of it is one of the biggest sleepers out there, and all around performance is outstanding! Some of those people are not snot nosed teenages, but rather someone who appreciates a well built car!
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Old 03-26-2009, 09:10 AM   #44
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eh, speed is all relative. I thought the GTO was a good base to start off with, but not FAST. Don't get me wrong, I don't think my car is fast either, it's not even a car/power range to aim for. I think fast STARTS in the 550-600 rwhp range +, and that's just the BEGINNING.

Then again, that's just my opinion.
550 - 600 rwhp is way above fast! If you really think that is what fast is, then there would be nothing stock out there other than your high end cars that are in that range. I think fast comes long before that! 550 - 600 rwhp is faster than alot of people can handle. Also would like to point out fast can be taking a hairpin @ 60mph, it all depends on what you are doing. Take it to a road course and fast is alot less mph than straight lining it. IMO. I know one thing for sure in my previous evo(when it was stock), my passengers thought fast was way before 100 mph with less than 300 hp to the crank. When it was modded to 600 awhp, it was just plain crazy crazy fast. A 10 sec car is above just fast! Again IMO
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Cobalts and G8's are not very cool looking IMO. Seriously....

I personally would not buy either, no matter how they performed.
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I personally would not buy either, no matter how they performed.
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You really can't compare two different magazine tests on two different days, on two different tracks, with two different drivers, and then when one car is one tenth of a second faster to 60, consider that conclusive proof that it is a faster car. Those with racing experience will know that even the same car same track same driver, the weather and track surface vary enough that you won't get the same time every try.

The GXP is a nice car and it could be faster, but you shouldn't consider this proof of it. Find someone who has one and go to the track
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Old 03-26-2009, 03:34 PM   #48
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Snot nosed teenagers huh! Unfair? The cobalt ss is one hell of a performer, and the base is 2k above the base Camaro, so how is it unfair. Some people buy the cobalt ss because of it is one of the biggest sleepers out there, and all around performance is outstanding! Some of those people are not snot nosed teenages, but rather someone who appreciates a well built car!
sorry, it's just that in my area all i see is immature teenagers in cobalt SS's. By immature i mean reving their engine for no reason, doing peel-outs, and thinking they are world class drivers when they just barely got their license.
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I think fast STARTS in the 550-600 rwhp range +, and that's just the BEGINNING.
Then again, that's just my opinion.
I agree.
And it's not your opinion, it's a fact.

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Old 03-26-2009, 08:11 PM   #50
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in what way?
people are saying the gear ratio is gonna be better on the 2011 and they are getting all the options that didnt make it in time for production like abl on dash and hud...and possibly navi
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people are saying the gear ratio is gonna be better on the 2011 and they are getting all the options that didnt make it in time for production like abl on dash and hud...and possibly navi
They should make it a no charge option because then their posted gas mileage will go down, and they don't need that with big brother government watching over their shoulders. Me, I'll take the standard ratio with lower revs at highway speed and just add some power if I need to go faster. Hey, wait a minute, that's my plan already!!
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