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Old 06-08-2009, 10:51 PM   #76
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yeah Rx8- 14 sec car, GXP very low 13 sec car, High 12s with just a very few mods..
They trap probably 10mph difference in the quartermile.

I think it is official, he is full of it.

Camaro FTW-- but if you need 4 doors.. the GXP isn't settling too much in the performance arena. with the gears it comes with, one might argue it has a slight advantage in certain aspects of performance.

RX8 = FAIL
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Old 06-08-2009, 11:41 PM   #77
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yeah Rx8- 14 sec car, GXP very low 13 sec car, High 12s with just a very few mods..
They trap probably 10mph difference in the quartermile.

I think it is official, he is full of it.

Camaro FTW-- but if you need 4 doors.. the GXP isn't settling too much in the performance arena. with the gears it comes with, one might argue it has a slight advantage in certain aspects of performance.

RX8 = FAIL
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I think one thing you can take away from this thread is that if you do buy the GXP, your not compromising on performance.
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One thing about an RX8 though- they feel like you are going faster than you are because of the engine pitch and chassis feel. I haven't been in a GXP but the G8 didn't feel as fast as it was.

Hope that made sense lol.
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One thing about an RX8 though- they feel like you are going faster than you are because of the engine pitch and chassis feel. I haven't been in a GXP but the G8 didn't feel as fast as it was.

Hope that made sense lol.
I hear you, it has to do with exhaust and how low the car sits to the ground. This was one of the reasons I felt like the R/T was slow, even though I know its as fast as my 350z.


Just stopped by the Chevy Dealership...


Guy had come in with his Black/Black GTR to buy a CTS-V, also black on black. While someone with their Black w/ White stripes SS was having service done on their car.


Needless to say I came in at the right time to see some sweet cars.


While i was drooling over the lines on the black SS, the dealer was telling me about how great the gears were in this car. Seriously going to town with it. I had to stop and explain to him that the good gears dont come till next year .


Anyways, great time to be a car guy at that dealership. But if I had spent the ONE HUNDRED AND SEVEN THOUSAND on the GTR (I asked..) I'd have taken the ZR1
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Though the ZR1 is a great great car, like some of you say about a mustang, a ZR1 is just another Vette. You do not see a whole lot of Skylines, which are a marvel themselves.
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Though the ZR1 is a great great car, like some of you say about a mustang, a ZR1 is just another Vette. You do not see a whole lot of Skylines, which are a marvel themselves.

ZR1 - just another vette.. LOL

That is like saying the 03/04 Cobra was just another mustang.
260 Hp vs 390 HP (Under rated)
Or the better yet the GT-500 is just another mustang.
300 HP vs 500 HP.. its just another Mustang too.



You don't see a whole lot of Skylines because they weren't sold in the US.
They do however sell a Nissan GTR here now, but they are fairly limited, because of the price tag and Need For Speed gamer type following, where as the Corvette has a rich herritage in the USA and will always be in a different class than the GTR.

Now if we go to Japan, you may have an argument, that the skyline/ GTRs are more rich with heritage.

But that statement was just plain silly.
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ZR1 - just another vette.. LOL

That is like saying the 03/04 Cobra was just another mustang.
260 Hp vs 390 HP (Under rated)
Or the better yet the GT-500 is just another mustang.
300 HP vs 500 HP.. its just another Mustang too.



You don't see a whole lot of Skylines because they weren't sold in the US.
They do however sell a Nissan GTR here now, but they are fairly limited, because of the price tag and Need For Speed gamer type following, where as the Corvette has a rich herritage in the USA and will always be in a different class than the GTR.

Now if we go to Japan, you may have an argument, that the skyline/ GTRs are more rich with heritage.

But that statement was just plain silly.


No way,that'd be like saying that a Mustang (which doesnt exist) is capable of putting down some of the best numbers EVER recorded for a stock performance car, blasting away competitors like Ferrari which are 2-3 times as much money.... Is just another mustang.
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Old 06-10-2009, 12:28 AM   #83
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so those snot nosed teenagers in the new cobalt SS will be able to go faster than me?




this is unfair

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One thing about an RX8 though- they feel like you are going faster than you are because of the engine pitch and chassis feel. I haven't been in a GXP but the G8 didn't feel as fast as it was.

Hope that made sense lol.
In my opinion it's the savvy and fortunate chassis tuning on the GXP. Reminds me of the taught, maneuverable feel of my Seville. More tractable than my 4th Generation F-bodies. Both the Seville and GXP track as dependably as a slot car. The GXP is about as quiet at highway speeds as the Seville or my Dad's DTS.
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Old 09-29-2009, 09:51 PM   #85
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I love my G8 GXP, got it for a great price. I have not drove a new camaro yet but I am very satisfied with everything on the G8, including the 4 doors and the big trunk. I had been looking at the Camaro for years(remember reading about it on the LS1GTO.com board) and couldn't wait, but when the G8 came out I was drawn to it more than the Camaro. When they anounced the GXP it was a done deal, I picked mine up in April for 36.5K TTL.
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Old 09-29-2009, 10:02 PM   #86
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The G8 GXP only gets 20mpg highway and is rewarded with a GG tax for it. Yeah, there's a rebate, but who is to say the Camaro won't get a rebate in a year. I'll take the Camaro with its 24 or 25mpg with almost exact performance. As you add power whether through bolt on or forced inductions, those 3.73 gears might give you trouble off the line in the form of tire smoke.


I should mention that I really like the GXP, just too much money and I wanted better gas mileage.
I dont understand the mileage at all, I get the same I got in my 2004 GTO. I just got back from a trip through the mountains, 1000 mile round trip, including 150-200 miles of 2 lane mountain roads and 20-30 miles of holding gears for spirited drivng I averaged 21 MPG on the whole trip. On the flat highway, with stops, I got 24.5 mpg. Most all of the reports on the G8 forum suggest similar mileage to the Camaro.
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I have a 2009 G9 GT as my commuter car. It is a fantastic car and runs very very strong and its not the gxp. The camaro spends most of its time in the garage. BTW i test drove a GXP before i got the GT, just couldnt see spending 10k more on a car that would have 60k miles put on it a year. The GXP felt stronger then my SS and also sounded like it had headers. It was bone stock brand new, but had that great crackly fast revving sound.
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Old 10-06-2009, 08:08 AM   #89
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i have a hard time believing that the g8 will be faster than the camaro or even close to it. it would be like if they made the camaro better than the vette , not going to happen
Don't doubt it. I own a G8 GXP M6 and I test drove a Camaro SS M6 last night and my car "feels" faster than the Camaro. I know it isn't a fair comparison since my car has headers, intake and a tune but I think the gearing is a big difference. I was actually surprised at how much I noticed the difference between the 3.70 gear and the 3.45 gear. I think the weight of the two cars is close so I don't think there is an advantage either way. I feel that the Camaro and the G8 GXP come down to a drivers race. Whoever drives the best wins.
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In my opinion it's the savvy and fortunate chassis tuning on the GXP. Reminds me of the taught, maneuverable feel of my Seville. More tractable than my 4th Generation F-bodies. Both the Seville and GXP track as dependably as a slot car. The GXP is about as quiet at highway speeds as the Seville or my Dad's DTS.
Not true. The G8 GT, maybe, but not the GXP. The stock GXP exhaust is MUCH louder than the stock G8 GT exhaust.
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I never saw a g8 before and I just googled it to see I think it looks horrible I cant imagine someone owning a Camaro liking that as well
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I never saw a g8 before and I just googled it to see I think it looks horrible I cant imagine someone owning a Camaro liking that as well
really?...well, to each his own. I think it's a great looking car...just keep in mind it's a 4dr/sedan, NOT a muscle car. I'm upset at the fact that they'll no longer be available. (unless GM changes their mind again).
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HA HA! That's ME! that's my car before I had it tuned and before I had the Vararam intake on it.
Some of you are very lucky to have country roads/ aka test tracks around every turn. She sounds good.
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I never saw a g8 before and I just googled it to see I think it looks horrible I cant imagine someone owning a Camaro liking that as well
I can see it not being someones favorite, but horrible.. You are definitely in the minority on that one.

I can't fill up my tank or roll through a parking lot, or drive thru window, or park in front of a business without at least one person EVERY day tell me love my car. (in some way)

When I bought the car, I parked it at one of my sites. I didn't say that I bought a new car. But when they saw it, they asked "who's Red car is that". (with a very enthusiastic admiration tone)

I said- mine. They gawked over it for awhile. And these are doctors, physicists, dosimetrists, and radiation therapists, nurses, etc. (mean they all make decent money, so it isn't a class thing)

This rings true for all my sites with parking that is visible from the building.

I think you really need to see one of these things in person, cleaned up and there is no denying it is a very nice looking, car.

But- I am not trying to convience you to like it, but I guess I just rarely meet people who don't like the car.

Hell I took my car to the Dodge dealership here in town. I was wasting some time, just looking at the SRT-8s they had on the lot. The sales guy, who's job is to convience me to trade in and buy their car, Even liked my car. One guy even asked to sit in it and check it out closer.
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Well...I've loved the G8 since it came out, but waited for the Camaro, cause I'm a Camaro girl at heart. I got severely spanked by a G8 today at the track, and the owner claims that his only mod is a torque converter. My best time was a 9.22 @78.6mph (1/8mile) and his was an 8.41 @ 83mph.

I hate to say I'm a little disappointed that I will have to mod my car (adding thousands of additional dollars to an already expensive car), to make it competitive. That bites.
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Well...I've loved the G8 since it came out, but waited for the Camaro, cause I'm a Camaro girl at heart. I got severely spanked by a G8 today at the track, and the owner claims that his only mod is a torque converter. My best time was a 9.22 @78.6mph (1/8mile) and his was an 8.41 @ 83mph.

I hate to say I'm a little disappointed that I will have to mod my car (adding thousands of additional dollars to an already expensive car), to make it competitive. That bites.

If he's got a converter, chances are he's also got a tune. A good converter makes a big difference off the line. You don't necessarily need to spend too much (around or less than $1000)...a Vararam intake and a tune (especially if you have an A6) will make a very noticeable difference. Add in headers/exhaust if you want more.
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Well...I've loved the G8 since it came out, but waited for the Camaro, cause I'm a Camaro girl at heart. I got severely spanked by a G8 today at the track, and the owner claims that his only mod is a torque converter. My best time was a 9.22 @78.6mph (1/8mile) and his was an 8.41 @ 83mph.

I hate to say I'm a little disappointed that I will have to mod my car (adding thousands of additional dollars to an already expensive car), to make it competitive. That bites.
Dude was probably fibbing a little, who just does a converter?? I would say tune, CAI, converter...maybe headers/exhaust...

Don't be upset though, its just the way it is, the 'maro is what it is, its "OK" stock, but nothing special. A tune and CAI would be an easy way to wake it up for cheap. If you don't mind spending a few extra$$ get the ARH headers, you will find it is a night and day experience then.

Here is a video of me with just a tune and headers, it made a WORLD of difference, even though I only gained 42rwhp, with the tranny tune, it was WAY faster.

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