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Old 10-11-2009, 07:22 PM   #101
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Well...I've loved the G8 since it came out, but waited for the Camaro, cause I'm a Camaro girl at heart. I got severely spanked by a G8 today at the track, and the owner claims that his only mod is a torque converter. My best time was a 9.22 @78.6mph (1/8mile) and his was an 8.41 @ 83mph.

I hate to say I'm a little disappointed that I will have to mod my car (adding thousands of additional dollars to an already expensive car), to make it competitive. That bites.
You just need some extra track time, No new Camaro should be 9 sec. in the 1/8 mile.

with a converter he at least had a tune (I am guessing). tunes are known to turn this car from 13.6 to 13.2 (in some cases)
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Old 10-11-2009, 07:23 PM   #102
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thow in an intake and cat-back- and several G8s have dipped into the 12s
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Old 10-17-2009, 04:00 PM   #103
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Today, at the track, a couple G8's parked real close to me. At first, I thought they were GXP's, and I got a little excited. But they were both G8 GT's. One was stock and the other one had a few basic mods (all I can remember hearing was a CAI and a tune). But I think he may have had something else. It had basically the same mods as my Camaro.

I asked the owner of the stock G8 GT what his car had been running and he said "in the 14s." I watched the lightly modded and tuned G8 GT, and it ran 13.5 @ 104 mph (on a clean run with pretty much no wheel spin). His corrected times would be in the 13.3s.

The DA was around +950 ft. (temps in the 70s with 60+% humidity).

My L99 Camaro (CAI, GMPP mufflers, and tune) was running in the
12.9x's @ 108-109 mph. My corrected runs would have been in the 12.7s.

It was pretty fun. The G8's GT's looked real nice.
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Old 10-21-2009, 03:03 PM   #104
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The G8's do not look good in many of the pictures I have seen. But since I owned both a GT and GXP version, I can tell you they look much better in person than in print.

I have also driven an SS manual. The GXP does feel faster than the SS. As many have said, it is just the gearing. I'd even venture to say that the GXP feels almost as fast as my CTS-V.

EDIT: my GXP had an aftermarket intake and a mail order tune - no delay in the throttle blade opening when I floored it.

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Old 10-21-2009, 03:30 PM   #105
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you they look much better in person than in print.


Our G8GT is a damn nice looking car.... Looks even better with aftermarket wheels!
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Old 10-23-2009, 02:56 PM   #106
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I saw a Pontiac G8 GT in front of an HEB grocery store earlier this year. It was the first time I had seen one and had only heard of them about 4 weeks prior to seeing this one. I was walking into the store when I spotted it and I absolutely had to stop and gawk for a few seconds. Damn good looking car. The 4 doors fit this car very nicely. It was designed to be a fast 4 door car, unlike a certain automobile that Dodge did a "retro" on a few years ago.
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Old 10-23-2009, 06:21 PM   #107
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The Pontiac G8's are pretty good looking. What is really good looking is the car Pontiac should have imported, the Commodore SSV.


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I am a newbie here, but not to the car forums.

I came to this site tonight to check out the latest on the new Z28 that is being talked about. It appears that there is nothing really concrete right now, but my ears and eyes are wide open.

I did a quick search on the G8 GXP, of which I am a very proud owner, and I really want to say how much I appreciate the amount of 'love' and respect the GXP has gotten on this site. Our cars are really brothers, one brother has 4 doors while the other has 2 doors. We all owe a debt of gratitude to the folks down under in Australia who had a big part in producing our fine automobiles.

The answer to the question that started this thread is really very simple. Between the M6 Camaro and either A6 or M6 GXP it is basically a drivers race. My best time to date in a completely and totally bone stock car (only thing done was drop the tire pressure to 25 lbs. on the rear tires) is a 12.933 @ 107.70, however this was done on a cold night with negative DA. I am sure you guys know that the DA can make 2.-.3 difference in your times. We have our own problems in our G8 forums dealing with the 'which is faster the A6 or M6', which can get real interesting.

Anyhow, I do apologize for bumping an old thread, but I just wanted to thank the Camaro owners for the class most have shown when posting about the Pontiac G8 and G8 GXP.

Here are a couple of pics. I do so love blue. I have gotten several comments about how nice the G8's look. Lately some real hot looking gal about 25 years old told me how nice the car looked. Well, either she meant it, or she was looking for a fat old bald headed man, who has that "I've been married 30 years" look in his eyes, to give a mercy compliment to.



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I would love to have a blue one too. welcome- You are on the G8 boards too. I recognize your name.
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You just need some extra track time, No new Camaro should be 9 sec. in the 1/8 mile.

with a converter he at least had a tune (I am guessing). tunes are known to turn this car from 13.6 to 13.2 (in some cases)
Actually, it wasn't track time I needed....it was the fuse pull. The very next weekend after I got beat by that G8, I went back to the track and ran an 8.45. Wish he would have been there that weekend!!!!
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Too bad you can't get an LS3 auto Camaro. Or too bad you couldn't get a GXP with a manual and lauch control.
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The G8 is a sharp car. Probably the best looking 4 door other than the CTS.IMHO
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Since the Camaro has gotten a 12.6 now, wouldn't that put it ahead of the GXP? They are still so ridiculously close it's well, ridiculous! There is one in my town that I would sure like to meet up with and run at the track.
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Since the Camaro has gotten a 12.6 now, wouldn't that put it ahead of the GXP? They are still so ridiculously close it's well, ridiculous! There is one in my town that I would sure like to meet up with and run at the track.

Yes that beats GXP by .2 (stock)
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Since the Camaro has gotten a 12.6 now, wouldn't that put it ahead of the GXP? They are still so ridiculously close it's well, ridiculous! There is one in my town that I would sure like to meet up with and run at the track.
A couple of things.

First of all, this 12.6, was it completely and totally bone stock? My 12.93 was totally bone stock, the only prep was lowering the rear tires to 25 lbs.

The other is that the 6 speed manual has the GXP by about 15-20 horsepower. There is also a numbers item. There were only about 1800 GXP's made, and I bet only 50 or less will ever be taken to the track, while the Camaro is being pumped out and sold on a continuous basis. Numbers alone blow away the GXP. I mean if over the next couple of years many guys are taking their Camaros to the track, it's like the army of Jamaica taking on the Chinese army. More cars to run equal more chances to get better times. The drivers who also started out running high 13's will figure out a way to better their times, given the learning curve, and that, along with some negative DA, will lower their times drastically.

With my A6 GXP I should beat any auto Camaro, while the M6 Camaro should beat me. But it doesn't always work out that way.
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A couple of things.

First of all, this 12.6, was it completely and totally bone stock? My 12.93 was totally bone stock, the only prep was lowering the rear tires to 25 lbs.

The other is that the 6 speed manual has the GXP by about 15-20 horsepower. There is also a numbers item. There were only about 1800 GXP's made, and I bet only 50 or less will ever be taken to the track, while the Camaro is being pumped out and sold on a continuous basis. Numbers alone blow away the GXP. I mean if over the next couple of years many guys are taking their Camaros to the track, it's like the army of Jamaica taking on the Chinese army. More cars to run equal more chances to get better times. The drivers who also started out running high 13's will figure out a way to better their times, given the learning curve, and that, along with some negative DA, will lower their times drastically.

With my A6 GXP I should beat any auto Camaro, while the M6 Camaro should beat me. But it doesn't always work out that way.
Yes it was completely bone stock. Down to the tire pressure, in which case if you go by a strict definition of being labeled "stock" then you were not. However, I do not go by that and you are stock in my opinion. Also the L99 Camaro has gotten slightly better than your A6 GXP (12.87). As it stands right now, like it or not by the information we have, the SS is slightly faster than the GXP.
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Yes it was completely bone stock. Down to the tire pressure, in which case if you go by a strict definition of being labeled "stock" then you were not. However, I do not go by that and you are stock in my opinion. Also the L99 Camaro has gotten slightly better than your A6 GXP (12.87). As it stands right now, like it or not by the information we have, the SS is slightly faster than the GXP.
It's all good. At least we aren't discussing ricers.

Also my GXP would be at number 5. on the stock list, out of 30 cars. I can live with that. But like I said, as time goes on and more Camaro's are put on the street and taken to the track, then the more chances that my 12.93 will be bettered, and I would move further down the list.

Before I purchased my GXP, I had a 09 A6 Vette and it turned a bone stock 12.15, on a great night of negative DA. At that time, it was number 4 on the vette bone stock list, but since I have traded it, my number 4 on the list is now number 7 (or so). Basically more vettes were on the road, and more drivers were getting used to their cars and breaking them in.

I love the LS engines, be it in a Chevy, Pontiac or whatever. So I am as much of a fan of Camaros, vettes, Trailblazer SS, or any other car with a LS engine as I am my own car.
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One of the coolest things about the G8 is how the front wheel flares stick out. Does not really show in pictures, but really grabs you in person.

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The answer to the question that started this thread is really very simple. Between the M6 Camaro and either A6 or M6 GXP it is basically a drivers race. My best time to date in a completely and totally bone stock car (only thing done was drop the tire pressure to 25 lbs. on the rear tires) is a 12.933 @ 107.70, however this was done on a cold night with negative DA. I am sure you guys know that the DA can make 2.-.3 difference in your times. We have our own problems in our G8 forums dealing with the 'which is faster the A6 or M6', which can get real interesting.
Very nice. Good looking car too.
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Also the L99 Camaro has gotten slightly better than your A6 GXP (12.87). As it stands right now, like it or not by the information we have, the SS is slightly faster than the GXP.
Well, according to this sites official time, the A6 is a tad behind my 12.93. Like it or not, here is the link and the top 10 stock cars from this site.

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1. 2quick - 12.61 @ 111.60 mph, (LS3, M6)
2. nhra stocker - 12.62 @ 110.30, (LS3, M6)
3. b20 - 12.81 @ 108.73 mph, (LS3, M6)
4. speedy6963 - 12.87 @ 109.08, (LS3, M6)
5. 8ty8ls1 - 12.97 @ 107.61 mph, (L99, A6)
6. 1stGM - 12.98 @ 107. 34 mph, (L99, A6)
7. blufin - 13.03 @ 109.20 mph, (LS3, M6)
8. SSmokey - 13.04 @ 110.80 mph, (LS3, M6)
9. NineBall - 13.07 @ 109.07 mph, (LS3, M6)
10. Kathy63 - 13.07 @ 105.84 mph, (LS3, m6)

As far as the GXP goes, our fastest bone stock times (in the 12's) are 12.81, 12.85, and 12.93. We don't have anything near your 12.6's. Again, the GXP is a couple of hundred pounds heavier and about 20 hp short, as compared to the M6 Camaros. So in this context, this is how it should be. Driven by a really good driver the M6 Camaro should beat the GXP, hands down.
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Well, according to this sites official time, the A6 is a tad behind my 12.93. Like it or not, here is the link and the top 10 stock cars from this site.

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1. 2quick - 12.61 @ 111.60 mph, (LS3, M6)
2. nhra stocker - 12.62 @ 110.30, (LS3, M6)
3. b20 - 12.81 @ 108.73 mph, (LS3, M6)
4. speedy6963 - 12.87 @ 109.08, (LS3, M6)
5. 8ty8ls1 - 12.97 @ 107.61 mph, (L99, A6)
6. 1stGM - 12.98 @ 107. 34 mph, (L99, A6)
7. blufin - 13.03 @ 109.20 mph, (LS3, M6)
8. SSmokey - 13.04 @ 110.80 mph, (LS3, M6)
9. NineBall - 13.07 @ 109.07 mph, (LS3, M6)
10. Kathy63 - 13.07 @ 105.84 mph, (LS3, m6)

As far as the GXP goes, our fastest bone stock times (in the 12's) are 12.81, 12.85, and 12.93. We don't have anything near your 12.6's. Again, the GXP is a couple of hundred pounds heavier and about 20 hp short, as compared to the M6 Camaros. So in this context, this is how it should be. Driven by a really good driver the M6 Camaro should beat the GXP, hands down.
That's my bad, I guess I read that wrong. Looks like the A6 GXP and A6 SS are incredibly close.
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That's my bad, I guess I read that wrong. Looks like the A6 GXP and A6 SS are incredibly close.

The sad thing is that I was originally thanking the general membership of this site for their class when mentioning the GXP. I never dreamed I would have to defend the GXP when things that were posted were not really accurate.

In your quote, you stated that the A6 GXP and the A6 are incredibly close. I find this to be relatively inaccurate, or accurate within a certain context.

First of all we are only going to take 3 cars. The very best bone stock M6 Camaro, the very best bone stock A6 GXP, and the very best bone stock A6 Camaro.

Per this site the number 1 M6 Camaro is:

1. 2quick - 12.61 @ 111.60 mph, (LS3, M6)

Per http://forum.grrrr8.net/showthread.php?t=1641 the fastest GXP is an automatic.

GXP4ME 12.815 @ 109.54 (GXP A6)

Per this site the number 1 A6 Camaro is

5. 8ty8ls1 - 12.97 @ 107.61 mph, (L99, A6)

Just a quick congratulations to these three drivers, who all did a great job.

The best M6 Camaro is .2 faster than the best A6 GXP, while the best A6 GXP is .16 faster than the best A6 Camaro. The M6 Camaro has 11 more horses while the GXP has 15 more horses than the A6. Bottom line is the A6 GXP is solidly between the M6 and A6 Camaros, which it should be. The A6 Camaro and A6 GXP are just as close as the M6 Camaro and A6 GXP.

This really isn't a great debate. We save those for which is faster between the A6 and M6 GXP on the G8 forums.
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From some of G8 GXP dynos out there .. I think that engine is underrated anyways .. I believe it is making as much power as the LS3 Camaro ..

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ummmm.....the GXP and LS3 camaros have the same engine and transmission....they should be making the same amount of power....unless I am missing something.
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ummmm.....the GXP and LS3 camaros have the same engine and transmission....they should be making the same amount of power....unless I am missing something.
no, the engines don't make the same power. check the SAE CERTIFICATION process if you don't believe it.

it is possible for the LS3 in the GXP to make the same or even more power AT THE WHEELS in comparison to the LS3 in the Camaro's because of other variables such as wheel and tire size/weight, tire height, rear end, ratio's, etc...
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