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Old 08-18-2011, 03:33 PM   #26
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I've seen 318hp on the window sticker of the '12 CTS and 308hp on the '12 SRX. On the Impala it will be 302hp for the '12 cop car.
We know the CTS has less room under the hood than the Camaro for the air intake, so it's pretty fair to say the Camaro will have 323hp(maybe more. LOL)
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Old 08-18-2011, 04:07 PM   #27
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and dont forget the LFX engine code is a flex fuel line which will be e85 capable.
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Old 08-18-2011, 04:27 PM   #28
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only thing he missed is the LFX but gives you a look at the LFX and the sound at idle

That is sharp car.....I will take mine in Summit White with the gray interior and black stripes......I love how he said "ventilated" disc brakes...and kept saying 312-hp.....obviously not a car guy.
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Old 08-18-2011, 04:36 PM   #29
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Very nice!

I like how they made the switch from buttons to actual flaps for the tapshift. One thing I did hear him mention was the old 312hp rating instead of the new 323hp rating, but just nitpicking I suppose. Beautiful car, can't wait till I can stop dreaming about getting one and actually get one. Nice find again.
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That's because the "323" isn't confirmed or SAE certified...
Yea but I dont think he even mentioned the LFX or the flex fuel capabilities so im guessing he forgot the change in engine
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Old 08-18-2011, 08:41 PM   #30
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That's because the "323" isn't confirmed or SAE certified...
Hm interesting, I had assumed it was confirmed for 2012. Thanks for that tid-bit. I'll be waiting then to see some dyno/certification numbers then when people start receiving them.

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Old 08-22-2011, 06:04 PM   #31
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Our LFX V6 powered convertible got dropped off just as I was leaving the shop this afternoon. I hung around just long enough to snap a couple of pictures.

The new cylinder head with integrated exhaust manifold...

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Old 08-22-2011, 06:08 PM   #32
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Our LFX V6 powered convertible got dropped off just as I was leaving the shop this afternoon. I hung around just long enough to snap a couple of pictures.

The new cylinder head with integrated exhaust manifold...

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The new E39 engine control module (not good news for us Bosch controled LLT guys hoping for tuning alternatives)

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A new 8 wire MAF/Air temp sensor

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And (sorry for the poor picture) of a new plastic intake plenum

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wow..that intake cover is fugly.
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Old 08-22-2011, 06:10 PM   #33
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Wow, thanks for the pictures!
any reviews, on driving differences?
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Old 08-22-2011, 06:12 PM   #34
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wow..that intake cover is fugly.
That's not the cover, thats the actual intake manifold (plenum)
It uses the same cover as the LLT V6, I removed the cover to take a picture of the intake. Sorry about the quality of that picture, I'll get a better one tomorrow.
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Old 08-22-2011, 06:13 PM   #35
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Wow, thanks for the pictures!
any reviews, on driving differences?
Sorry, I haven't driven it yet.
The sound on start-up was very similar to the LLT.
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Old 08-22-2011, 06:16 PM   #36
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Omg I want that plastic intake manifold! I bet thats where the extra HP bump comes from.

I expect they will run .1-.2 tenths faster or so.
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Old 08-22-2011, 06:20 PM   #37
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Omg I want that plastic intake manifold! I bet thats where the extra HP bump comes from.

I expect they will run .1-.2 tenths faster or so.
more like where most of the weight came from. With the '10 & '11 the plain jane engine cover was optional. Now it looks mandatory.
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Old 08-22-2011, 06:42 PM   #38
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Wow... that intake manifold look hideous. I really like having my cover off on the LLT as I think it looks better showing it's intake manifold. I really like how the exhaust manifold is just screaming for a turbo though...
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Wow... that intake manifold look hideous. I really like having my cover off on the LLT as I think it looks better showing it's intake manifold. I really like how the exhaust manifold is just screaming for a turbo though.. .







seriously tho... a steady hand with a grinder will smooth out that fugly intake manifold... or... you could just keep the cover on...
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Old 08-22-2011, 09:18 PM   #40
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Omg I want that plastic intake manifold! I bet thats where the extra HP bump comes from.

I expect they will run .1-.2 tenths faster or so.
So do I. I'd really like to see if it fits though first.
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Holy cow...I wasn't expecting a plastic intake manifold...no wonder they were able to lose weight! Should also cost less....shouldn't it??

Yeah, many of us V6 owners like to run without the engine cover, but with this...there is no way I'd run without it. Ughh....

But...if it was an easy way for more power I'd do it! Just pretty up my engine cover!
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Speakin of the exhaust manifold, anyone else notice that there are extra holes around the existing manifold, almost like you can put a bigger manifold on or is that just an optical illusion?
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ok i like the steering wheel in that video it looks good. Plus the FULL tap pedels is a plus better then the buttons would be easer to shift. BUT THAT BOW TIE KILLS IT. Should have at least left camaro on there IF so i would not complain . The rest of the car looks fine i like it and the new dash but this is a 2LT and all else i seen was a 2SS what about the 1LT

The new 2SS/LT has a leather dash now awsome improve the looks feel even more to a high end lux car awsome. But what about the 1LT or the LS does it have cloath all the way around more now to keep with the less plastic theme?
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dude wtf first they had to ruin the steering wheel now THIS? omfg . When i take my cover off i see that alloy intake manifold. and i drooooooooool . I love showing that off NOW THEY GOT A PLASIC COVER ON IT RUINS IT
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seriously tho... a steady hand with a grinder will smooth out that fugly intake manifold... or... you could just keep the cover on...
I wouldn't grind it off, I'm sure it is there to ad rigidity. It is ugly, but I'm sure somebody will come up with something to make it look good. Then again, you can just keep the cover on.
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Speakin of the exhaust manifold, anyone else notice that there are extra holes around the existing manifold, almost like you can put a bigger manifold on or is that just an optical illusion?
Turbo mount perhaps?
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Old 08-23-2011, 12:18 PM   #48
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gotta give some props to Ford. Their engine compartments make 5Th Gens look bad by comparison.
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Any LFX V6's out yet? Just wondering.
Yes - I took delivery of my 1LT a few days ago. The engine is GREAT. It pulls very strong, and other than the wimpy sound, you would be hard pressed to know there isn't a V8 under the hood.
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2 things, the locks are in the middle and on the doors... weird, and that is still another cover on the intake plenum, it's not the plenum itself, they are aluminum NOT plastic, so now it has 2 covers. Nice try saying it has a plastic plenum though. In the better pic you can see the lip, and where the intake goes UNDER the plastic and not into it... and if it is plastic and I'm just not seeing how that's the actual plenum, I can't wait for one to melt!
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