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Old 08-23-2011, 02:38 PM   #51
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2 things, the locks are in the middle and on the doors... weird, and that is still another cover on the intake plenum, it's not the plenum itself, they are aluminum NOT plastic, so now it has 2 covers. Nice try saying it has a plastic plenum though. In the better pic you can see the lip, and where the intake goes UNDER the plastic and not into it... and if it is plastic and I'm just not seeing how that's the actual plenum, I can't wait for one to melt!
My Charger has a plastic manifold, it looks a lot better than the camaro's, but it's plastic. Maybe it's getting to be a common thing these days.
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Old 08-23-2011, 03:04 PM   #52
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2 things, the locks are in the middle and on the doors... weird, and that is still another cover on the intake plenum, it's not the plenum itself, they are aluminum NOT plastic, so now it has 2 covers. Nice try saying it has a plastic plenum though. In the better pic you can see the lip, and where the intake goes UNDER the plastic and not into it... and if it is plastic and I'm just not seeing how that's the actual plenum, I can't wait for one to melt!
It IS a plastic plenum, they have been in use for some time now in other applications since the late 90's (GM 3800, LS V8's & Cadillac Northstar to name a few) without melting issues.

What you see under the lip in the 2nd picture is just a shadow effect that may look different in color, there is no aluminum there. It's plastic right down to where it meets the throttle body.
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Old 08-24-2011, 11:38 AM   #53
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It IS a plastic plenum, they have been in use for some time now in other applications since the late 90's (GM 3800, LS V8's & Cadillac Northstar to name a few) without melting issues.

What you see under the lip in the 2nd picture is just a shadow effect that may look different in color, there is no aluminum there. It's plastic right down to where it meets the throttle body.
Ahem... Composite, Composite... not plastic!!!
http://www.torquenews.com/766/new-ch...-cylinder-head.
The new composite intake manifold saves approximately 5.5 pounds
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Old 08-24-2011, 11:50 AM   #54
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That steering wheel is hideous.
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Old 08-24-2011, 11:56 AM   #55
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Ahem... Composite, Composite... not plastic!!!
http://www.torquenews.com/766/new-ch...-cylinder-head.
The new composite intake manifold saves approximately 5.5 pounds
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Old 08-24-2011, 12:07 PM   #56
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Anyone notice the radiator cap, There goes trying to use the New Vararam Intake. So will the V8 Vararam intake work on this?
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Old 08-24-2011, 12:34 PM   #57
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Anyone notice the radiator cap, There goes trying to use the New Vararam Intake. So will the V8 Vararam intake work on this?
Another interesting find...Yep...the Current V6 VR certainly work work on this! Heck, with that new MAF sensor, depending on how its mounting location is shaped, it may not work for any of the current aftermarket CAI's.
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Old 08-24-2011, 12:36 PM   #58
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engine cover sux, but that plastic manifold is hideous. I like my '10 aluminum, thank you very much.
..should've gotten rid of the trash cans to save weight & aesthetics
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Old 08-24-2011, 12:44 PM   #59
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My 2011 V6 didn't come with a front strut bar. Was I supposed to get one? Or is it a 2012 thing? I didn't see it listed in the new features of the 2012 V6.
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Old 08-24-2011, 12:55 PM   #60
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My 2011 V6 didn't come with a front strut bar. Was I supposed to get one? Or is it a 2012 thing? I didn't see it listed in the new features of the 2012 V6.
convertibles only come with these from the factory
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Old 08-24-2011, 01:14 PM   #61
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Anyone else notice the Mustang sitting on the lot in the background at 2:00? lol
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Old 08-24-2011, 01:17 PM   #62
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Not a fan of the plastic thing on top of the engine now. But god i love these cars.
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Old 08-24-2011, 01:31 PM   #63
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Wow, the LLT sure was short-lived. And IT was the motor everyone was raving about back in '09....
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Old 08-24-2011, 01:32 PM   #64
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Just makes our '10s and '11s that much more rare
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Old 08-24-2011, 01:57 PM   #65
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So does the 2012 Manual come with the AY6?
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Old 08-24-2011, 02:03 PM   #66
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Wow, the LLT sure was short-lived. And IT was the motor everyone was raving about back in '09....
Short lived in the Camaro. Was still in some of the Caddy's before the Camaro!

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Just makes our '10s and '11s that much more rare
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Old 08-24-2011, 02:06 PM   #67
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Short lived in the Camaro. Was still in some of the Caddy's before the Camaro!



Hell yeah!
This is true... The CTS has been rockin the LLT since The Matrix got Reloaded
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Old 08-24-2011, 02:09 PM   #68
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Its kinda funny now i think about it. Why would chevy put a dated motor in this car if they knew in two short years it would be replaced?.
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i want to drive one of these and see if i can really feel that 11hp difference and 20ibs less lol
and can someone explain why some of the current intakes may not work on this?
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Old 08-24-2011, 02:17 PM   #70
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Took delivery of my '12 Black, Black, Inferno 2LT RS LFX Vert Monday.

Loving it. Engine seems powerful. Still breaking it in. Had it up to 85 this afternoon.

Definitely, wimpy on the exhaust notes. But, that's what my sons can get me for Christmas. Was thinking of the Vram intake, now need to see how they make it work.

After driving a SS, the LFX still doesn't want to launch itself like the LS3, 99, BUT, it is far smoother than the LLT it replaced.

I will keep updating. Only at 150 miles right now.
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Old 08-24-2011, 02:35 PM   #71
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Just makes our '10s and '11s that much more rare
5 or 6 is rare. 10,000 times that - not so much.
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Old 08-24-2011, 03:36 PM   #72
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You know, the best part about all this is the e39 ecm.
Now well see some realy modded cars that take full advantage of power adders.
Sc or turbo, I think that was the main thing holding everyone back.
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Old 08-24-2011, 04:20 PM   #73
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Wow....nice car. I wouldn't give up my SS for one but for a V6 that's really nice. V6 in general have come a long way. I think peoples perception of having a V6 is really changing.

Wish he would've addressed the power passenger seat. I'm curious to see it work and hope it might be able to be retrofitted in to a '10. Actually I don't want it powered, just want to be able to manually raise and lower but I'll take whatever I can get.

Steering wheel isn't as bad as I thought but like someone else said....with the bowtie instead of Camaro I wouldn't even begin to trade. That's now a parts bin steering wheel which makes mine much more valuable IMO.

Love the backup camera. Might have to look into retrofitting that some day. HUD would be nice but not for the price difference to retrofit.

I'm actually not a fan of the leather on the dash. Like it the way I have it in the '10.

Still hard to believe I only paid about $1,300 more for my SS than what they are asking. I know....can't compare because I didn't get an RS or an Auto but still.
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Old 08-24-2011, 04:24 PM   #74
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You know, the best part about all this is the e39 ecm.
Now well see some realy modded cars that take full advantage of power adders.
Sc or turbo, I think that was the main thing holding everyone back.
Actually, it is the HPFP that's killing use. Trifecta has the tuning down on the LLT ECU pretty well.
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Old 08-24-2011, 04:26 PM   #75
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only thing he missed is the LFX but gives you a look at the LFX and the sound at idle
Hey all,I just purchased that very Camaro in the above video.
I have been lurking Camaro and Mustang sites to determine which car I wanted to buy since I like (and wanted both). I had no experience with either of these cars and wanted the one that suited me best. Based on the online reviews, I purchased the 2012 Mustang V6 with the "Pony Pkg".

Unfortunately the Mustang we purchased wasn't in stock and had to be picked up the next day so My wife and I mosied over to O'Connel Chevrolet to see the car we didn't choose. The salesman showed me the 2012 Camaro in the video that had just been delivered. I took it for a test drive and was thinking to myself, uh oh I made a mistake. I like this one better.
My wife and I went back to the Ford Dealership and cancelled the sale.

To me the power, interior and driveabilty between the two cars were negligible, but the body styling and "Cool Factor" went to the Camaro by an insurmountable margin. So, while the online reviews appear to favor the Mustang over the Camaro (I still haven't seen any definative comparisons between similar 2012 V6 models though), my own personal seat of the pants review favors the Camaro by a narrow margin.

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