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Old 09-13-2011, 11:48 AM   #26
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So, I took my car to the dealer today for the ticking sound under acceleration. I demonstrated it to the service advisor, and about 20 minutes later he came back and said that it might indeed be the lifters that need to be replaced. I spoke to the tech and he also said that it could be the lifters or a valve leak. Either way, they are keeping my car for an unforeseen amount of time :(
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Iwantone2, hopefully they are able to get your vehicle back to you in a timely manner and hopefully they keep you up to date on how your repair is going. Let us know how the repair goes for you.

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Old 09-13-2011, 05:11 PM   #28
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Thanks Jeff! I actually heard from my service advisor and he said something along the lines of replacing the lifters, camshaft, pushrods, seals, and gaskets. I'll keep everyone posted.
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Update: I called the service advisor to make sure that the service was going to be covered under warranty...he said "This time, yes." WTF? I asked what could have caused the damage and he said, "over-revving the engine". Now correct me if I'm wrong here, but aren't there members on here who have put superchargers and such in their cars and have revved the sh!t out of their cars without similar damage to mine?
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Old 09-13-2011, 07:54 PM   #30
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Update: I called the service advisor to make sure that the service was going to be covered under warranty...he said "This time, yes." WTF? I asked what could have caused the damage and he said, "over-revving the engine". Now correct me if I'm wrong here, but aren't there members on here who have put superchargers and such in their cars and have revved the sh!t out of their cars without similar damage to mine?


The car has a rev limiter which is gonna kill the party before it becomes an issue. It is a defect in the lifter/design pure and simple and is why they have a TSB for it and a redesigned lifter to put in it....

It had better be covered for the entire 5/100 powertrain or there would be hell to pay in my book...

That is if I still had my powertrain warranty!
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Old 09-16-2011, 04:33 PM   #31
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Update: I called the service advisor to make sure that the service was going to be covered under warranty...he said "This time, yes." WTF? I asked what could have caused the damage and he said, "over-revving the engine". Now correct me if I'm wrong here, but aren't there members on here who have put superchargers and such in their cars and have revved the sh!t out of their cars without similar damage to mine?
Now thats funny, at one time I was told by a dealer that driving over 60 mph was aggressive and abusive driving, I really wish the dealers would screen some of there employees for experience before hiring them.
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Old 09-16-2011, 05:02 PM   #32
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The car has a rev limiter which is gonna kill the party before it becomes an issue. It is a defect in the lifter/design pure and simple and is why they have a TSB for it and a redesigned lifter to put in it....

It had better be covered for the entire 5/100 powertrain or there would be hell to pay in my book...

That is if I still had my powertrain warranty!
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Now thats funny, at one time I was told by a dealer that driving over 60 mph was aggressive and abusive driving, I really wish the dealers would screen some of there employees for experience before hiring them.
Yeah, when I first read hypurone's response, I wondered why I didn't remember that so that I could throw it in the service advisor's face. But alas, I know that I'll have the last laugh when I get the survey...

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Old 09-16-2011, 05:13 PM   #33
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This video turned out to be an exhaust leak at the header gasket.

Just make sure you check carefully.

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Old 09-21-2011, 04:42 PM   #34
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I should be getting my car back tomorrow. Does anyone want me to post the service sheet when I get it?
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Old 09-21-2011, 04:49 PM   #35
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I should be getting my car back tomorrow. Does anyone want me to post the service sheet when I get it?
Post it up, yes.

Are they sticking with the 'Over-reving' the engine thing?

If so ask him what the rev limiter is for.
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Old 09-21-2011, 06:34 PM   #36
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Post it up, yes.

Are they sticking with the 'Over-reving' the engine thing?

If so ask him what the rev limiter is for.
I think I'm gonna ask him about it, maybe GM forgot to put the limiter in my car for some reason!
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Old 09-21-2011, 07:58 PM   #37
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I 2, would like to see the service sheet.

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Old 09-22-2011, 10:18 AM   #38
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No problem! I'm currently in a state of cat-like awareness, waiting for the call.
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No problem! I'm currently in a state of cat-like awareness, waiting for the call.
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Finally! Got my car back in one piece. Talked to my service advisor who said, "...I didn't even look into the computer for anything, we just wanted to help you out here." To which I replied that I did not have a tune anyways. I then asked him how bad the damage was in the end, and he explained to me the same stuff as before. He then said, "Just watch those high RPM's. You have a manual trans, right?" I said, no it was an AT. He replied, "Either way, but I'm not saying that it was the cause." I said, "It's strange that the rev limiter didn't help in this case." He gave me a look like 'ah, crap' and said, "Well, it could have also been a faulty part.

Either way, here is the service paperwork...

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Finally! Got my car back in one piece. Talked to my service advisor who said, "...I didn't even look into the computer for anything, we just wanted to help you out here." To which I replied that I did not have a tune anyways. I then asked him how bad the damage was in the end, and he explained to me the same stuff as before. He then said, "Just watch those high RPM's. You have a manual trans, right?" I said, no it was an AT. He replied, "Either way, but I'm not saying that it was the cause." I said, "It's strange that the rev limiter didn't help in this case." He gave me a look like 'ah, crap' and said, "Well, it could have also been a faulty part.
Sounds like he just wanted to try and impress you with his knowlege of mechanics. Sure, something like that can be caused by over-reving an engine but considering it's a KNOWN ISSUE it's most likely not a cause. Especially with built in fail-safes against it. LMAO

But even then there are plenty of things that can cause it.
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I was reading the work they did and all I could think about was "Perfect time to do this and that while it's opened up.

So all is good now?
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Old 09-22-2011, 05:26 PM   #43
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My L99 is "quieter" now that this work has been performed, but the passenger side now has a slight/moderate "tick" (one lifter) noise when warm that wasn't there before the AFM lifter repair. Does not seem to be loud enough to cause concern just yet.

I also have a "smell" (like hot oil) that creeps into the car after driving at 30+ MPH with a warm engine and then stop at a light/sign for about 15 to 20 seconds. The shop foreman continues to suggest that it is the anti seize compound used on the bolts for the exhaust manifolds. It's getting a little less persistent, but not to the level that I can ignore it (yet). I can smell it best up by the front passenger side of the engine, but I cannot find anything leaking to cause the smell.
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Old 09-22-2011, 08:00 PM   #44
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my dealer told me i need to get a oil filter with a check valve in it to hold pressure on the lifters. I told him to get bent... my still goes tik tik tik.... going to take it to a differant dealer... I some times get a oil smell in my car..
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Old 09-23-2011, 09:34 AM   #45
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I was reading the work they did and all I could think about was "Perfect time to do this and that while it's opened up.

So all is good now?
I agree completely, I could have had my car have a bunch of cool stuff installed!

So far, all is good! I'm gonna do some more driving today and see if I notice anything different...or better
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Old 09-23-2011, 12:48 PM   #46
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My L99 is "quieter" now that this work has been performed, but the passenger side now has a slight/moderate "tick" (one lifter) noise when warm that wasn't there before the AFM lifter repair. Does not seem to be loud enough to cause concern just yet.

I also have a "smell" (like hot oil) that creeps into the car after driving at 30+ MPH with a warm engine and then stop at a light/sign for about 15 to 20 seconds. The shop foreman continues to suggest that it is the anti seize compound used on the bolts for the exhaust manifolds. It's getting a little less persistent, but not to the level that I can ignore it (yet). I can smell it best up by the front passenger side of the engine, but I cannot find anything leaking to cause the smell.
The smells will go away. I had that when I put my blower on. I spilled gas, coolant, oil from the manifold and maybe a few other things on my engine during the install. lol

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I agree completely, I could have had my car have a bunch of cool stuff installed!

So far, all is good! I'm gonna do some more driving today and see if I notice anything different...or better
Well, being a warranty item they wouln't have doen any upgrades. Both the dealerships here wouldnt do it even if I paid them. They just refuse to do anything modified no matter what. Suspension, wheels, engine, nothing.........
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Old 10-20-2011, 01:33 AM   #47
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I heard the lifters as well on my car. I hated hearing a new car tap so I thought about it and came to conclusion even with a warranty service techs don't want to fix your car. Then I asked myself do I really want them to touch my car? Go in for one thing another problem returned to me possibly.
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Old 11-15-2011, 07:16 PM   #48
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I starting working for a GM dealer 23 years ago... It sucks to know that customers have to deal with poorly trained employees. Mostly the ones that think they know everything and would sooner make up some b/s then try to really help their customer. But, I have to say we have some great tech's and I'm still not excited about letting them under my hood to fix my lifter noise under warranty. Can't decide between warranty, doing it myself or living with it.
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Old 11-21-2011, 11:05 AM   #49
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Guess I just joined this camp. My car had been rattling lifters at start up, as did my avalanche and my other camaro...so what, right? Well, a lifter got stuck Friday and it does it all the time. It's a nasty tick. I'm going to talk to a dealer tomorrow. I parked the car within 5 miles of the tick being audible.
I'm hoping to pay the extra for some ls7 lifters and leave the afm tuned out so that this won't happen again.
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Lol...well gwatney Chevrolet in Jacksonville, AR rocks....James was all keyed up ready for the car....taking it in tomorrow. Guess what quit ticking today? Lol. Oh well, it needs an oil change and some gears!
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