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Old 10-08-2012, 03:12 PM   #1
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Should I uprgade to FE4 suspension?

Currently I have a set of coilovers and have upgraded to a pair of LSR swaybars (got a good deal on them) set to the middle setting. I still have the stock Front/Rear endlinks.

I only do a couple Auto-X events a year and actually this year I didn't even get a chance to make it to one. I haven't done any road racing but hope to do it at least one time just to try it out. My wallet probably won't let me do those too often since I've heard that it will eat brakes and tires.

I do however go to the drag strip probaby 4 or 5 times a year just for fun. Nothing competitive and I'm still using the OEM wheels and street tires (altough I do have 20x9 all around).

With that being said, do you think it's worth upgrading to the FE4 suspension? I'm thinking of going with the newer style Lower Control Arms, OEM end links, and 1LE sway bars.

Do you see any advantage to that as apposed to just buying some Pedders or Pfadt end links for the LSR swaybars I already have?

Right now I considering the upgrade mostly because I like the idea of where the end links connect to the LCA with the FE4 suspension. I also don't care for the stock end links on the FE3 suspension.

Opinions???
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Old 10-08-2012, 03:33 PM   #2
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Currently I have a set of coilovers and have upgraded to a pair of LSR swaybars (got a good deal on them) set to the middle setting. I still have the stock Front/Rear endlinks.

I only do a couple Auto-X events a year and actually this year I didn't even get a chance to make it to one. I haven't done any road racing but hope to do it at least one time just to try it out. My wallet probably won't let me do those too often since I've heard that it will eat brakes and tires.

I do however go to the drag strip probaby 4 or 5 times a year just for fun. Nothing competitive and I'm still using the OEM wheels and street tires (altough I do have 20x9 all around).

With that being said, do you think it's worth upgrading to the FE4 suspension? I'm thinking of going with the newer style Lower Control Arms, OEM end links, and 1LE sway bars.

Do you see any advantage to that as apposed to just buying some Pedders or Pfadt end links for the LSR swaybars I already have?

Right now I considering the upgrade mostly because I like the idea of where the end links connect to the LCA with the FE4 suspension. I also don't care for the stock end links on the FE3 suspension.

Opinions???
In our experience the FE4 suspension really is better. Our ZLSpec sway bar package really will make a big difference over an FE3 equipped car. We simply could never get enough rear roll stiffness dialed into the FE2/FE3 Camaro's like we can with the FE4 cars. This should give you a good idea of the change in performance you would see with our bars vs. an FE3 style package:

CAMARO FRONT ROLL STIFFNESS. FE2/3/4/5 PACKAGES INCLUDING ALL PFADT BARS

CAMARO REAR ROLL STIFFNESS. FE2/3/4/5, INCLUDING ALL PFADT BARS

You can see how the new parts really give us an opportunity to significantly increase the roll resistance versus the previous bars. We have upgrade packages that include the OEM rear arms, rear endlinks, Pfadt front endlinks as well as the sway bars... everything you would need in one convenient package.
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Old 10-08-2012, 04:16 PM   #3
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I've been looking at your package. Definatley like it.....I just don't know if it's overkill for me or not.

I've also been looking at Pedders package as well as just upgrading to the 1LE parts. The OEM 1LE parts are the most cost effective way but may not be the best performance wise.
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Old 10-08-2012, 05:11 PM   #4
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If interested, I will have some FE4 parts coming off of my car, let me know if there is something you want.
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Caverman, what diameter is your front bar?
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Old 10-08-2012, 05:37 PM   #6
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If interested, I will have some FE4 parts coming off of my car, let me know if there is something you want.
PM me with what you have. I'm going to need Lower Control Arms for sure and Front/Rear end links (if I don't go aftermarket). Sway bars will either be 1LE or aftermarket.

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Caverman, what diameter is your front bar?
I don't know and LSR wouldn't give out specs. They are big though. I think I remember measuring them to be about 30mm. They are hallow which probably makes a difference.
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Old 10-08-2012, 05:48 PM   #7
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30mm hollow is close to a 27mm solid. Moving to a Z style 32mm solid will work great for you.
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:32 PM   #8
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Agreed, i was loking at FE4 stuff before i decided to go with the 1LE.
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:40 PM   #9
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30mm hollow is close to a 27mm solid. Moving to a Z style 32mm solid will work great for you.
What kind of an advantage would I get with the 32mm over the 28mm 1LE bar? I'm assuming that's for the rear.

Also, doesn't Pedders have some upgraded end links for the FE4 suspension? I'm tossing all sorts of ideas around because I'm trying to get something good without breaking the bank or going overkill for my needs. One idea was going with FE4 GM LCA, 1LE swaybars, and Pedders end links.

Isn't there a Pedders bushing for the LCA as well? If so, how much is that going to help me or hurt me if I don't use them?
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:43 PM   #10
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:55 PM   #11
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What kind of an advantage would I get with the 32mm over the 28mm 1LE bar? I'm assuming that's for the rear.

Also, doesn't Pedders have some upgraded end links for the FE4 suspension? I'm tossing all sorts of ideas around because I'm trying to get something good without breaking the bank or going overkill for my needs. One idea was going with FE4 GM LCA, 1LE swaybars, and Pedders end links.

Isn't there a Pedders bushing for the LCA as well? If so, how much is that going to help me or hurt me if I don't use them?
Keep your front bar and add the 32mm rear bar, LCAs and drop links. The 1LE or ZL1 28mm rear bar is going to be just a bit stronger than your 30mm hollow bar front and rear bar. Mounting it outboard makes it far more effective, but to bring better balance to the car you need a bigger rear bar. The only reason GM isn't running a bigger rear bar on the ZL1 or 1LE is they want the car to understeer for liability reasons.

Way back when we ran our PUSA Camaro with a square wheel and tire setup, 27mm adjustable front bar and a 32mm inboard mount adjustable rear bar. The 1LE comes out with a 27mm front bar, the same size front and rear tires on 10 wide up front and 11 wide in the rear... GM is getting so close to building a Pedders Camaro, but I digress We are limited to a 32mm rear bar because area the sway bar mounts to the sub-frame, in our opinion, won't take a much much stronger bar.

Your current front endlinks have worked well for the LSR front bar so leave them in place. Big Axx Pedders rear bar, Pedders droplinks and OE RLCAs will have you dialed in on a budget.
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:17 PM   #12
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Your current front endlinks have worked well for the LSR front bar so leave them in place. Big Axx Pedders rear bar, Pedders droplinks and OE RLCAs will have you dialed in on a budget.
Ok....sounds like a plan. PM me the cost of that when you get a chance.

Also, if you know of a place to get a good alignment in the DFW area that would help alot as well.

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Old 10-09-2012, 10:55 PM   #13
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27mm solid.

Am I in the wrong section???
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