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Old 08-24-2011, 01:41 PM   #1
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Motortrend: Next Gen Camaro 2014-2015 To feature new 8 speed automatic!

According to this article the new generation Camaro expected to be out either model year 2014 or 2015 will feature GM's new Eight-Speed Automatic Transmission.

http://www.motortrend.com/features/a...utomatic_plan/

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The new small rear-drive Cadillac, the next CTS, the Chevrolet Camaro, future full-size pickups, and whatever other RWD models GM conjures up in the next few years will benefit from a $204-million investment in an eight-speed automatic transmission plant in Toledo, Ohio. Chairman and CEO Dan Akerson announced the investment and the eight-speed for longitudinal engine use recently, confirming that GM is catching up with the likes of Mercedes-Benz, BMW, and Lexus. Chrysler will have eight-speed transmissions soon, and Ford has announced a new FWD eight-speed automatic.

Figure on GM's eight-speed to make its way into the new Alpha platform rear-drive cars, which start with the ATS-codename 2013 Cadillac 3 Series-fighter, the 2014 Cadillac CTS and the 2015 Chevy Camaro. The transmission could work in all but high-torque versions of GM's pickups and sport/utilities, as well.

GM is the inventor of the mass-market fully automatic transmission, with varying gear counts through the years. A brief look at the history shows that what the new eight-speed needs more than anything is a cool, post-modern name. In the past there have been:

Hydramatic: four speeds, launched in 1940 Oldsmobiles. It was redesigned for the 1956 model year with a sprag clutch and a secondary fluid coupling, and discontinued after 1964.

Dynaflow: two speeds, 1948 to 1964 Buicks. GM's second fully automatic transmission.

Powerglide: two speeds, 1950 to 1973 Chevrolets, including the 1971-73 Vega.

Jetaway: two speeds, 1964-69 Pontiac, Oldsmobile and Buick midsizecars.

Roto-Hydramatic: three speeds, 1961 to 1964 Pontiacs and Oldsmobiles.

Turbo-Hydramatic: three speeds, launching in high-torque V-8 powered models from all divisions in 1965. By the '70s, it was GM's mainstream automatic, and it evolved into a four-speed automatic. It is used in some GM models to this day.



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Old 08-24-2011, 01:58 PM   #2
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Probably be a tad better for MPGs and for performance, but could you imagine tapshifting an 8 speed auto!?
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Old 08-24-2011, 02:15 PM   #3
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Old 08-24-2011, 02:17 PM   #4
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I can see it happening, but just a reminder: Take everything MotorTrend says with a grain of salt.
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Old 08-24-2011, 02:22 PM   #5
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Old 08-24-2011, 02:24 PM   #6
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This makes you wonder about the future of manuals. It's hard enough now for a M6 to keep up with an A6. Imagine trying to shift 8 gears.

But then I didn't think I'd like a M6 after having a DD 30 years ago with a 4speed stick. I absolutely love the gearing of my M6. You gotta believe the manual isn't going past 6 gears.
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Old 08-24-2011, 02:58 PM   #7
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You know what would be cool, if you could program your transmission like a TV and be able to skip gears like you skip channels. That'd be interesting !!!!!!!!! It certainly makes more sense once you get into these number of gears.
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Old 08-24-2011, 04:06 PM   #8
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My 87 corvette had the 4+3 manual, you had an overdrive gear for 2,3,4 gears. I would drive it 1,2,3,4 then overdrive on 4th. OR you could drive it 1,2, overdrive,3, overdrive,4, overdrive. Very confusing.
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Old 08-24-2011, 04:14 PM   #9
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Interesting! I'm just dying to see what this 2015 Camaro will look like!
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Old 08-24-2011, 04:39 PM   #10
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How about Octomatic?
You know, if that was actually chosen, I can already envision what all the manual transmission fanboys will start calling the automatic owners...

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Old 08-24-2011, 05:07 PM   #11
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starting to sound like a mac truck O.o 8 speed gear box sounds like a big rig
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Old 08-24-2011, 05:55 PM   #12
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f 8 gears, im waiting for the model with 10 gears. Heard it will get 1mpg more then my 2010
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Old 08-24-2011, 06:10 PM   #13
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I find it hard to believe that the new vette wouldn't be getting this transmission before the camaro would
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Old 08-24-2011, 06:54 PM   #14
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My 87 corvette had the 4+3 manual, you had an overdrive gear for 2,3,4 gears. I would drive it 1,2,3,4 then overdrive on 4th. OR you could drive it 1,2, overdrive,3, overdrive,4, overdrive. Very confusing.
I know a guy that had one of those. He had a hell of a time getting someone to rebuild it correctly. As soon as it was fixed, he sold the P.O.S.
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Old 08-24-2011, 06:57 PM   #15
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I'll stick with 4L80E's or T56's lol. There is no need for all those gears
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Old 08-24-2011, 06:58 PM   #16
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You know, if that was actually chosen, I can already envision what all the manual transmission fanboys will start calling the automatic owners...

Octo-pussies?
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Old 08-24-2011, 07:03 PM   #17
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I'm not an automatic hater but that right there is frickin' hilarious!
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Old 08-24-2011, 07:10 PM   #18
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This makes you wonder about the future of manuals. It's hard enough now for a M6 to keep up with an A6. Imagine trying to shift 8 gears.

But then I didn't think I'd like a M6 after having a DD 30 years ago with a 4speed stick. I absolutely love the gearing of my M6. You gotta believe the manual isn't going past 6 gears.
There will be no manual equipped cars in production within 10 years.

Except maybe econo-boxes in Asia.
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Old 08-24-2011, 07:12 PM   #19
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Old 08-24-2011, 07:13 PM   #20
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I've got a Motor Trend from fall of 1984, first review of IROC-Z. my dad bought it. They mention it only comes with an auto and say if someone 'sat down to design a modern transmission it probably wouldn't come out as a manual"
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Old 08-24-2011, 09:07 PM   #21
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U know porshe is comming out with a 7 speed manual tranny for the new 911. I dont see the point of it but i wonde what kind of pattern it will be.
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But then I didn't think I'd like a M6 after having a DD 30 years ago with a 4speed stick. I absolutely love the gearing of my M6. You gotta believe the manual isn't going past 6 gears.

My first car was a four speed Z28. I have to say that I liked it much better than the M6. I rarely go past 4th gear unless I'm on the highway.
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Old 08-24-2011, 09:57 PM   #23
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Drove an IS-F awhile back, which also has 8 gears, and let me tell you. That's just too damned much shifting. Not a fan.
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Old 08-24-2011, 10:02 PM   #24
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Drove an IS-F awhile back, which also has 8 gears, and let me tell you. That's just too damned much shifting. Not a fan.
Why not a 10 or 15 speed transmission.

Agreed, 8 gears seems like a lot of shifting/more ratios than you would need, particularly on an engine with a lot of torque. Hopefully this isn't a hint at future engine choices.
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This makes you wonder about the future of manuals. It's hard enough now for a M6 to keep up with an A6. Imagine trying to shift 8 gears.

But then I didn't think I'd like a M6 after having a DD 30 years ago with a 4speed stick. I absolutely love the gearing of my M6. You gotta believe the manual isn't going past 6 gears.
If your going for straight line performance yeah the auto is faster period. But nothing will replace the fun and passion of a manual. And just to let you know, the 2012 911 is going to have a 7 speed manual. Just imagine having a T56 with a gear between 5 and 6 NICE!! the 7th gear is just going to be an overdrive.
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