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Old 08-24-2011, 05:39 PM   #1
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2012 intake manifold

It looks to be a composite piece which would be lighter. Any idea if these will swap onto the 2010-11's? Will it move the t/b(concern for any cai).
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Old 08-24-2011, 05:58 PM   #2
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From the pictures that I have seen it looks like the Radiator cap is in the middle like the V8's. This would screw Vararam's V6 maybe their V8 CAI, could be used if this is truly where it will be on the 2012 V6
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Old 08-24-2011, 06:28 PM   #3
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I'm more thinking along the lines of if the manifold can be used on the 2010-11's. If you've seen the inside of the aluminum manifold you'll notice the casting seams weren't very clean at all. Then there's the weight of the big chunk of aluminum compared to the composite plastic. Then there's the ease of gasket-matching the plastic compared to the aluminum.
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Was wondering the exact same thing
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Old 08-24-2011, 07:26 PM   #5
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I just installed my ported TB yesterday, so it was the first time I took a look inside the intake manifold. Yikes! I would be interested in finding out if the new manifold will swap over too. I'm guessing it would flow better out of the box, but I'd love to see a dyno test with someone running both of them back to back.
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Old 08-24-2011, 08:51 PM   #6
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i bet it would bolt right up. i mean doesn't the LFX have the same block as the LLT?
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Old 08-24-2011, 09:06 PM   #7
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2010 Intake Manifold

Intake Manifold Replacement
<A href="http://gsi.xw.gm.com/si/showDoc.do?laborOpCode=&docSyskey=2196313&cellId=1 47822&pubObjSyskey=2196313&from=sm&pubCellSyskey=1 47822#ss1-2196313">Removal Procedure

  1. Remove the fuel pipe shield. Refer to Fuel Pipe Shield Replacement.
  2. Remove the air outlet duct. Refer to Air Cleaner Outlet Duct Replacement.
  3. Disconnect the brake booster vacuum hose (1) from the intake manifold.

  4. Disconnect the positive crankcase ventilation (PCV) hose (1) from the intake manifold.

  5. Disconnect the purge line (1) from the intake manifold.

  6. Remove the purge solenoid bolt (1) from the intake manifold and set the purge solenoid aside.

  7. Disconnect the throttle body electrical connector (1).

  8. Remove the intake manifold bracket bolt (1).
  9. Unclip the engine wiring harness from the intake manifold.

  10. Remove the intake manifold bolts (1).
  11. Remove the intake manifold and gasket.
  12. If replacing the intake manifold, disassemble the intake manifold. Refer to Intake Manifold Disassemble.
<A href="http://gsi.xw.gm.com/si/showDoc.do?laborOpCode=&docSyskey=2196313&cellId=1 47822&pubObjSyskey=2196313&from=sm&pubCellSyskey=1 47822#ss2-2196313">Installation Procedure

  1. If installing a new intake manifold, assemble the intake manifold. Refer to Intake Manifold Assemble.
  2. Install the NEW intake manifold gasket.
  3. Tighten the intake manifold bolts in the sequence shown (1-6).Caution: Refer to Fastener Caution in the Preface section.
  4. Install the intake manifold bolts (1) and tighten to 25 Nm (18 lb ft).

  5. Clip the engine wiring harness from the intake manifold.
  6. Install the intake manifold bracket bolt (1) and tighten to 23 Nm (17 lb ft).

  7. Connect the throttle body electrical connector (1).

  8. Install the purge solenoid bolt (1) to the intake manifold.

  9. Connect the purge line (1) to the intake manifold.

  10. Connect the PCV hose (1) to the intake manifold.

  11. Connect the brake booster vacuum hose (1) from the intake manifold.
  12. Install the air outlet duct. Refer to Air Cleaner Outlet Duct Replacement.
This is the 2010 Intake - next is the 2012
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Old 08-24-2011, 09:08 PM   #8
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2012 Intake Manifold

Intake Manifold Replacement
<A href="http://gsi.xw.gm.com/si/showDoc.do?laborOpCode=&docSyskey=2668183&cellId=1 47822&pubObjSyskey=2668183&from=sm&pubCellSyskey=1 47822#ss1-2668183">Removal Procedure

  1. Remove the intake manifold cover (2). Refer to Intake Manifold Cover Replacement - Front.

  2. Remove the rear intake manifold cover retainers (1).
  3. Remove the rear intake manifold cover (2).

  4. Remove the PCV dirty air tube (1) from the right camshaft cover.
  5. Remove the PCV dirty air tube (1) from the intake manifold.
  6. Remove the fuel pipe shield. Refer to Fuel Pipe Shield Replacement.
  7. Remove the air outlet duct. Refer to Air Cleaner Outlet Duct Replacement.

  8. Disconnect the brake booster vacuum hose (2) from the intake manifold.
  9. Remove electrical connector and hose from the purge solenoid (4)
  10. Disconnect the throttle body electrical connector (3).
  11. Disconnect the map sensor connector (1).

  12. Remove the intake manifold bolts (1).
  13. Remove the intake manifold (2) and gasket (3).
  14. If replacing the intake manifold, disassemble the intake manifold. Refer to Intake Manifold Disassemble.
<A href="http://gsi.xw.gm.com/si/showDoc.do?laborOpCode=&docSyskey=2668183&cellId=1 47822&pubObjSyskey=2668183&from=sm&pubCellSyskey=1 47822#ss2-2668183">Installation Procedure

  1. If installing a new intake manifold, assemble the intake manifold. Refer to Intake Manifold Assemble.
  2. Install the NEW intake manifold gasket (3).
  3. Position the intake manifold (2) and hand start the manifold bolts (1).Caution: Refer to Fastener Caution in the Preface section.


  4. Tighten the intake manifold bolts in the sequence shown to 25 Nm (18 lb ft).
  5. Tighten the intake manifold bolts a second pass in sequence to 25 Nm (18 lb ft).

  6. Connect the brake booster vacuum hose (2) to the intake manifold.
  7. Connect electrical connector and hose from the purge solenoid (4)
  8. Connect the throttle body electrical connector (3).
  9. Connect the map sensor connector (1).

  10. Install the PCV dirty air tube (1) to the right camshaft cover.
  11. Install the PCV dirty air tube (1) to the intake manifold.
  12. Install the air outlet duct. Refer to Air Cleaner Outlet Duct Replacement.
  13. Install the fuel pipe shield. Refer to Fuel Pipe Shield Replacement.

  14. Install the rear intake manifold cover (2).
  15. Install the rear intake manifold cover retainers (1).

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Old 08-24-2011, 09:09 PM   #9
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Looks like the mounting pattern is the same
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Old 08-24-2011, 09:20 PM   #10
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Some of the electronics and vacuume routing is different,Purge solenoid is in a different location
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Old 08-24-2011, 10:22 PM   #11
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It won't fit,look at the gaskets on the 12 and then the 10
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Old 08-24-2011, 11:12 PM   #12
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Hrrrmmm...J.LTYCHE.....thanks for those photos! I'm still not fully convinced one way or the other...sure would be great if it did fit though but looks like it may not. (bummer).

If it did, sounds like an easy way for more ponies.
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Old 08-25-2011, 07:00 AM   #13
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Hrrrmmm...J.LTYCHE.....thanks for those photos! I'm still not fully convinced one way or the other...sure would be great if it did fit though but looks like it may not. (bummer).

If it did, sounds like an easy way for more ponies.
Ya but i think when Tracy is done with our intakes they will be even better.I dont think the weight difference is that big of a deal.
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Old 08-25-2011, 07:11 AM   #14
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Ya but i think when Tracy is done with our intakes they will be even better.I dont think the weight difference is that big of a deal.
Thats what I was hopeing!!
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Old 08-25-2011, 07:19 AM   #15
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Ya but i think when Tracy is done with our intakes they will be even better.I dont think the weight difference is that big of a deal.
It's more than a weight issue(although those of us 230lbs+ will lose whatever we can wherever we can). If you've ever used a bit on aluminum compared to plastic the plastic is going to be easier to take material. I'd be interested to see a flow-comparison.
From the pics I can't tell if the 2012 is a one-piece where our aluminum one is a two.
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Old 08-25-2011, 07:27 AM   #16
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Its a one-piece with a small bottom section (ill post a diagram)
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Old 08-25-2011, 07:28 AM   #17
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2012 Chevrolet Camaro | Camaro VIN F Service Manual | Engine | Engine Mechanical - 2.8L, 3.0L, 3.2L, or 3.6L | Repair Instructions - Off Vehicle | Document ID: 2220047
Intake Manifold Disassemble (LF1, LFW or LFX)

  1. Remove the throttle body bolts (1).
  2. Remove the throttle body (2).
  3. Remove and discard the throttle body seal (3).

  4. Loosen the evaporative (EVAP) solenoid bolt.
  5. Remove the EVAP solenoid (1).

  6. Remove the manifold absolute pressure (MAP) sensor bolt (1).
  7. Remove the MAP sensor (2).

  8. Remove the lower intake manifold bolts (1) and lower intake manifold (2).
  9. Remove and discard the lower intake manifold gaskets (3).

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Thanks for all the pics, JL
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So Tracy's gonna do the intakes next?
Just got the TB today. Time to start saving for the intake manifold now.

And I think you're right Mr.Tyche, looks like the intake runner is a different shape on the '12. Don't think it'll be adaptable for our use.
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I'm going to port the intake manifold on my 2011. I tried to order a spare so that I could take my time but they're on back order with no ETA.
I'll have to port the one on my daily driver. I think my two days off should be enough time to do a decent job. Should be next week (Monday-Tuesday).
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I'm going to port the intake manifold on my 2011. I tried to order a spare so that I could take my time but they're on back order with no ETA.
I'll have to port the one on my daily driver. I think my two days off should be enough time to do a decent job. Should be next week (Monday-Tuesday).
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I'm going to port the intake manifold on my 2011. I tried to order a spare so that I could take my time but they're on back order with no ETA.
I'll have to port the one on my daily driver. I think my two days off should be enough time to do a decent job. Should be next week (Monday-Tuesday).
What are the intakes running?
I've got my old one I may be willing to box up and ship. PM me if you want.
My car had 3k miles on it when it was swapped out.
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What are the intakes running?
I've got my old one I may be willing to box up and ship. PM me if you want.
My car had 3k miles on it when it was swapped out.
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How does one go about porting this intake? What tools and materials are invloved?
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The dremel has been my tool of choice for years.

There's different types of bits to port/polish. Aluminum tends to go slower as it gums up the bits. When I would work cast iron the bits wouldn't gum up as fast but they'd dull up quicker. The composite would have to be easier.
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