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Old 03-27-2009, 01:06 AM   #1
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No remote start with Manual Transmission?

After reading my order sheet for the 1,000,000th time I realized that the L99 package includes a remote started, but that the LS6 (that I ordered) does not. I assume it is because of the manual transmission? Or is there another reason?
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Old 03-27-2009, 01:09 AM   #2
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You are correct on the manual, and incorrect on your engine code you ordered. I bet you meant LS3 though!

Way too many insurance problems to deal with having remote start on a stick.
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Old 03-27-2009, 01:10 AM   #3
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After reading my order sheet for the 1,000,000th time I realized that the L99 package includes a remote started, but that the LS6 (that I ordered) does not. I assume it is because of the manual transmission? Or is there another reason?
First, you got an LS6 in your car? I think you mean LS3.
Second, the manual doesn't have remote start because A) if you accidentally leave the car in gear if will move when started and B) the car doesn't depress the clutch for you so it can't even start i the first place.
Hopefully that made sense
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Old 03-27-2009, 08:16 AM   #4
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Yes I meant LS3, sorry about that -

And thanks for the info!
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Old 03-27-2009, 08:24 AM   #5
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yep...no remote start on the manuals.
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Old 03-27-2009, 08:36 AM   #6
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if you really want it you can get it through a aftermarket alarm system that has it to where it will only start if the car is in nuetral and the parking break is set, that comes with a clutch bypass so thats not a problem. i have done this for a buddy of mine before and it works perfectly
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Old 03-27-2009, 08:42 AM   #7
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if you really want it you can get it through a aftermarket alarm system that has it to where it will only start if the car is in nuetral and the parking break is set, that comes with a clutch bypass so thats not a problem. i have done this for a buddy of mine before and it works perfectly
So you have to leave the car in neutral right?? That's just not safe, brakes lose tension, your tranny will not.
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Old 03-27-2009, 08:43 AM   #8
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So you have to leave the car in neutral right?? That's just not safe, brakes lose tension, your tranny will not.
Of course they can pop out of gear!!

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Old 03-27-2009, 08:46 AM   #9
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I wouldnt recommend it, even if you can get it through the aftermarket. To use it you'll have to leave your car out of gear, relying on the e-brake alone. E-brakes can fail pretty easily if you're on even a slight slope, they arent that strong. I'd rather leave my car in gear without the e-brake than leave it in neutral with the e-brake on.

EDIT: arozar beat me to it.
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Old 03-27-2009, 08:51 AM   #10
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So you have to leave the car in neutral right?? That's just not safe, brakes lose tension, your tranny will not.
thats true, if you do this you would have to keep up with that.personally if i was going to do this to my car(which i'm considering) i would only use it somewhere like my garage/driveway where its nice and flat or some place like that. if i was to be parking on a hill somewhere i would use common sence and never leave my car parked without it being in gear or without the wheels turned the corresponding way so if anything fails my car wont go rolling down the street.
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Old 03-27-2009, 10:07 AM   #11
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Well if it's something you really want, they make manual aftermarket remote starts. I will probably be looking into this later on
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Old 03-27-2009, 10:25 AM   #12
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I have seen a few accident threads out on other forums for people that modded in a manual remote start.

My advice is just don't do it.
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Old 03-27-2009, 10:27 AM   #13
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Not to mention, adding an aftermarket remote start will VOID your warranty.

Bad bad bad....
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Old 03-27-2009, 10:31 AM   #14
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Well if it's automatic it might not void it. If you use an authorized installer. Like a DEI authorized installer. GM has been buying controller stuff from DEI for a while anyway. Because I do advise everyone to add 2 way Alarm pager to your Camaro. Nothing beats it... beeps in house.. they could rip the system out and you still got the ***********ers.
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Old 03-27-2009, 01:09 PM   #15
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No manufacturer will ever offer a manual remote start as standard.

Clifford (now owned by DEI) offered a manual remote start when its G4 alarm systems came out. At the time I worked in Car Audio at an unnamed electronics chain. Installers put the first one we ever sold from another store into a 91 Mustang GT Convertible. It had all these things to supposedly prevent you from starting in gear, but in the end it STILL bypasses the clutch switch. The owner (the very next day) remote started his car out of his garage, across teh street and into his neighbors garage. We ceased carrying said module immediately.

Aside from the fact that if the ebrake is as great as the one in my C5 Vette, I am likely to find my car crashed into my inside garage door if I dont leave it in reverse.

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Old 03-27-2009, 03:57 PM   #16
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Manual Autostart

I put one in my wife's 06 Kia Sportage. 49.99 at Canadian Tire sale price, it had the clutch bypass built in. Piece o' cake and I wired her power doors to work keyless ! For safety sake ensure you follow the autostart makers instructions, and as long as the ebrake is actuated it wont go anywhere. There is a risk that for some unknown reason it could fail. In my driveway I will always park it close to the house at the front of the driveway. Only being a foot away from the siding with lumber structure behind it I wont see much damage if the worst thing happens......Here's a thought. I have been driving my vehicles for 33 years and I have yet to have the ebrake fail by not holding. If anything I have had them stick a couple of times on my old 75 chevy caprice. Bottom line is that the system is a safe as you make it. A new Camaro parking brake properly maintained is not going to fail unless it is defective.

Installed correctly the autostart will not "reset" unless you follow a prescribed order of shutting the vehicle down which includes setting the park brake. Then tomorrow morning when you want to warm it up ...... the autostart "will not engage" unless the emergency brake lever is actuated let alone you think you had followed the shutdown procedure the night before!!!

I am getting another 49.99 jobby for my new SS !
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Old 03-27-2009, 04:26 PM   #17
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Not to mention, adding an aftermarket remote start will VOID your warranty.

Bad bad bad....
Not so !.....If installed correctly and wired so as not to interfere with the OEM wiring scheme and performance ..... It may viod specific repairs if say "it was found to be wired into the wrong port on the ECM" or something else dumb that caused other issues other then what it is designed for. Many people do not know how difficult it is for a manufacturer to void warranties as long as the modification did not put additional requirement over and above it performance capability and it is installed to reasonable standards.

Your clutch blows up on a burnout. The service rep says it failed becuase your exhaust, tuning, and air box mods bumped the power up to much (say 60 lb/ft) and the clutch couldnt handle it the extra torque.

I can bet that the LS3 clutch design and material make up is actually capable of say 550 lb/ft torque and if you are knowledgable about that kind of thing you can challenge the service rep on it!

You go to the chev service center cause your alternator is burnt out. The rep says that cause you added extra stereo equipment the warranty is void. Well if your Amp can only pump 120 amps and you added equipment that with all of your vehicle's amperage requiement was drawing more then 120 Amps ......then the warranty would be void.

The other issue is that if you do not have the proof in front of you it can be costly to challenge the maunfacturer in court and they know it. Call them up first and speak to the right technician about the mod you are considering , you may be suprised !!
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Old 03-29-2009, 11:53 PM   #18
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Of course they can pop out of gear!!

i have even seen autos pop out of gear or even the tranny parking break completly break where you could put it in park and still go rolling down the street.
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First, you got an LS6 in your car? I think you mean LS3.
Second, the manual doesn't have remote start because A) if you accidentally leave the car in gear if will move when started and B) the car doesn't depress the clutch for you so it can't even start i the first place.
Hopefully that made sense
Your always supposed to leave your car in gear in M trannie in case your e brake fails... that way it won't roll away to hell
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Not to mention, adding an aftermarket remote start will VOID your warranty.

Bad bad bad....
In California (and some other states) it won't unless they can prove the remote start caused something to break that you are trying to get replaced under warranty...
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Okay it's funny story time from me again...

We were working down on the property putting in a culvert... we had the dozer on the hill in park... The E-Brake was on and it was in gear. The brake pop off, it popped out of gear all at the same time, my father and I were at the bottom of the hill positioning the culvert real quick before we used the dozer to cover it up. We here the pop sound and the slight sound of the dozer picking up speed. The squeak of the steel tracks weekie weekie faster and faster, we look up see this D4 Dozer heading straight for us, so we each jump to one side and it plows literally into the culvert, bending it completely in half... Thanks fully no one was hurt, just the culvert, nothing a 2 ton bottle jack could not fix

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Dang, so don't leave your dozer running and it won't run into your manual w/remote start!
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First, you got an LS6 in your car? I think you mean LS3.
Second, the manual doesn't have remote start because A) if you accidentally leave the car in gear if will move when started and B) the car doesn't depress the clutch for you so it can't even start i the first place.
Hopefully that made sense
i dont have to press the clutch on my MT transmition car to start it
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I went to may fav car audio store here in jax and asked em about adding remote start to a manual. They said it was possible but there was no way to bypass the start if it is in gear.

He then told me a story of us buddy how put it on his manual BMW... And while in Home Depot he was carrying something heavy under his arm which was resting on his pocket. And yes, he forgot to put the car in neutral. And yep when he came out his car had repeatedly hammered the front of the DTS parked in front of him. I also learned that it will try and restart the car every 3 mins if it doesn't' start the first time....

I'm thinking I don't need remote start on a manual that bad.
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So how does the manual SRT8 do it with push button start
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