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Old 09-09-2011, 01:04 PM   #201
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by the way - I think you're going to be in for a surprise.




There's lots we've still not disclosed - so stay tuned.........
I like the sound of this!!
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Old 09-09-2011, 01:05 PM   #202
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4200lbs?

The car gained 340 lbs over a standard SS? And they even took weight reduction steps? I understand the supercharger etc will add another 150lbs or so...and other heavier duty components...but they also lightened the car in ways also. I dont see the car gaining more than 150-200 lbs.

4200 lbs is ridiculous...as if the regular camaro wasnt heavy enough.
Check the GM press release (http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=170305). Did they announce the weight? No? Well then ... its just speculation from a website.

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How does anyone figure this will beat (let alone spank) a New gt500 at 3750-3800 lbs and 550 hp?....and with the ZL1 at 580 hp and 4200lbs.

If these figures are correct the camaro will actually be a bit slower.

I think the source is probably wrong and the car is about 4k and just a bit quicker than the GT500
The CTS-V is almost as quick as the GT500. It has less power & less grip than the ZL1. So the ZL1 will clearly be faster than the CTS-V, which also gives it the edge over the GT500. Make sense?

And, because I can't stress this enough, 4200 lbs isn't official - its speculation, just like price, performance, and fuel economy.
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Old 09-09-2011, 01:10 PM   #203
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No problem -- we'll take your name off the list.


by the way - I think you're going to be in for a surprise.




There's lots we've still not disclosed - so stay tuned.........

Bodyshot, Uppercut...

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Not so long ago, 500 at the flywheel was some kind of dream.
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Old 09-09-2011, 01:22 PM   #204
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Old 09-09-2011, 01:24 PM   #205
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Old 09-09-2011, 01:25 PM   #206
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Isn't that roughly how much the Perellis are for the Camaro?

The main issue is IMO the ultra soft compound of the Cup tires combined with the heavy weight of the ZL1. With spirited driving, let alone track driving, I doubt these tires last past 3000-4000 miles. I've heard they only last about 5000 miles on the much lighter ZR1.

You gotta pay to play I know, but damn.
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Old 09-09-2011, 01:30 PM   #207
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Lol, no, I meant that I was already in med school and finished with it. i still have to finish undergrad. I could of skipped some grades but my dad was in the military and they wouldn't allow me to skip grades due to the constant moving.

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Old 09-09-2011, 01:32 PM   #208
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Isn't that roughly how much the Perellis are for the Camaro?

The main issue is IMO the ultra soft compound of the Cup tires combined with the heavy weight of the ZL1. With spirited driving, let alone track driving, I doubt these tires last past 3000-4000 miles. I've heard they only last about 5000 miles on the much lighter ZR1.

You gotta pay to play I know, but damn.

Only way to transfer this much power to the pavement.

IF we're over 4100 pounds (which I doubt) we need sticky to stay 11.xx in the quarter - bone stock.

I can live with that. Just have to have a set of general purpose tires and one for the strip.

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Only way to transfer this much power to the pavement.

IF we're over 4100 pounds (which I doubt) we need sticky to stay 11.xx in the quarter - bone stock.

I can live with that. Just have to have a set of general purpose tires and one for track days.

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plus there will be people that may only put 3000miles on it total in its lifetime. the collector types. for everyone else if you can afford this car you can either afford the tires or to get a second set for nomal use.
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Old 09-09-2011, 01:38 PM   #210
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Please keep my name on the list.

I've been waiting for a factory high performance 5th Gen Camaro (read ZL1) since Monday, January 9, 2006.

I'm really looking forward to owning and driving a ZL1. It's definitely the vehicle of this era for me.
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No problem -- we'll take your name off the list.


by the way - I think you're going to be in for a surprise.




There's lots we've still not disclosed - so stay tuned.........
I'm sorry to all those I honor in my signature, however, this post takes the cake and says so much for all those ridiculous posts that are like the one 'father is speaking to.

ALL HAIL SCOTT!!!

As far as the Sport Cup tires - only a few thousand miles doesn't sound all that cool, however, to come as a factory option means mountains to me. That means I can compare apples-to-apples when it comes time to line up against competitors. It's not like there's anything the competition could do that would change my mind anyways, but it also makes for good benchracing.
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Old 09-09-2011, 01:57 PM   #212
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Old 09-09-2011, 01:58 PM   #213
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Old 09-09-2011, 02:06 PM   #214
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it's like xmas in sept! i'm sooo excited !!! at last GM decided to give us some news.
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Old 09-09-2011, 02:06 PM   #215
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Old 09-09-2011, 02:10 PM   #217
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As far as the Sport Cup tires - only a few thousand miles doesn't sound all that cool, however, to come as a factory option means mountains to me. That means I can compare apples-to-apples when it comes time to line up against competitors. It's not like there's anything the competition could do that would change my mind anyways, but it also makes for good benchracing.
"Michelin's Pilot Sport Cup Zero Pressure (ZP) tires are exclusive to the Corvette Z06 and ZR1. The Camaro ZL1 will be fitted with Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar tires (P285/35ZR20 front, P305/35ZR20)"

That's the latest update about the tires I believe...
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Old 09-09-2011, 02:11 PM   #218
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Old 09-09-2011, 02:17 PM   #219
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I feel like they should have waited until later to announce the specs. Now the GT500 will probably be one step ahead. But its still impressive!
I don't think it will be possible for the Mustang to be 1 step ahead of the Camaro in it's current generation.
Mustang doesn't have MRC or IRS just to name a few.

For comparison, the Camaro convertible weighs an astounding 500lbs more than the Mustang convertible
But somehow with only the 18 more hp the Camaro runs almost identical 0-60 times and is quicker in a figure 8.
The Camaro convertible's chassis is one of the most rigid convertibles ever built. The Mustang chassis rigidity is not even in the same league.
It's not all about hp, but the total package.
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Because the CTS-V coupe spanked the gt500? And maybe cause the Cts-v coupe is as HEAVY or HEAVIER than the zl1... Oh and cause it has 556 horse and 556 torque, OH and MAYBE... the ZL1 has 580 HORSEPOWER? it's gonna spank the gt500 again. No doubt.
A random race video with both cars on street tires proves what?

Go look at some real world numbers and trap speeds etc. The CTS gets better traction when stock. It is not faster. Enough said about that...
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My 1996 Corolla only has like 570 HP but it will win against the ZL1 because it is FWD. I also painted the calipers yellow. The ZL1 calipers aren't yellow, they are more like a gray or black - um hello? Do those brakes even do anything??!!? What is wrong with you GM??? Let's start with the basics, OK? Plus, I've got over 200,000 miles and the ZL1s haven't proven they are durable yet because they aren't even on the showroom floor. Let’s see the ZL1 run over 200,000 miles and then we will talk. And I can run in the snow and seat 5 plus fill my trunk with baby toys. I also heard the GT500 was the best from my buddy who works down the road from the Ford dealer in our town. No way will the ZL1 beat it. Fact.
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As if I needed any more excuse to be glued to the Camaro 5 forums!!

Every single day I'm on here hoping for the next little tidbit of information - today has been information overload, but is my thirst for knowledge on the ZL1 quenched??...you've got to be joking!

I need to know more and I need to know it NOW!!!!

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Only way to transfer this much power to the pavement.

IF we're over 4100 pounds (which I doubt) we need sticky to stay 11.xx in the quarter - bone stock.

I can live with that. Just have to have a set of general purpose tires and one for the strip.

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I'm around 3850 without me in it (170 lbs) and on the stock PZeros I went 11.973 @ 120.19 last weekend with 560HP/520TQ (ground) on a manual. This is with the 2.3L TVS.
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