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Old 10-06-2011, 03:34 PM   #226
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I personally donít think there will be many trim levels if any. There are few options and as Fbodfather said, the ZL1 basically comes fully loaded. Known options include sunroof, suede, stripe, automatic transmission, polished wheels and stripe (or stripe delete). There might be some surprises but that seems to be the general consensus.
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I personally donít think there will be many trim levels if any. There are few options and as Fbodfather said, the ZL1 basically comes fully loaded. Known options include sunroof, suede, stripe, automatic transmission, polished wheels and stripe (or stripe delete). There might be some surprises but that seems to be the general consensus.
Thats why I asked.

I didn't think there were going to be many options.

It sounds like its going to be similar to the GT500 and the Nissan GT-R

Basically, pick the color and a few other things, otherwise, here's what you get.
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After what Fbodfather said today I really dont think there is going to be 3 trims.
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VERY FEW options........nearly everything is standard.
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I personally don’t think there will be many trim levels if any. There are few options and as Fbodfather said, the ZL1 basically comes fully loaded. Known options include sunroof, suede, stripe, automatic transmission, polished wheels and stripe (or stripe delete). There might be some surprises but that seems to be the general consensus.
There you go doing it again.....



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I could be wrong but I feel the following would be the case... keep in mind, 100% speculation:

1ZL... similar to the 1SS: cloth seats, no HUD (striped version)
2ZL... Similar to the 2SS: leather/heated seats, HUD (loaded version)
3ZL... same as 2ZL but with the alcantera seats like the Chicago Auto Show car.

Remember, GM loves their number nomenclature. 1-4LT on the Base Corvette, 1-4ZR on the ZR1... it just follows suit.

Other options would be minor... A6/M6... wheels... stripes... sunroof.

Maybe they won't do that and just load them all up but I feel that's a bad idea. I guess we will know soon enough.
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Old 10-06-2011, 05:14 PM   #230
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I could be wrong but I feel the following would be the case... keep in mind, 100% speculation:

1ZL... similar to the 1SS: cloth seats, no HUD (striped version)
2ZL... Similar to the 2SS: leather/heated seats, HUD (loaded version)
3ZL... same as 2ZL but with the alcantera seats like the Chicago Auto Show car.

Remember, GM loves their number nomenclature. 1-4LT on the Base Corvette, 1-4ZR on the ZR1... it just follows suit.

Other options would be minor... A6/M6... wheels... stripes... sunroof.

Maybe they won't do that and just load them all up but I feel that's a bad idea. I guess we will know soon enough.
After reading Fbodfather's quote directly above your post, you honestly think they'll offer the ZL1 in all the trim levels you describe? I surely don't, and I'm absolutely fine with that to be perfectly honest.

As Scott also recently posted, the ZL1 is not for everyone (but it sure as heck seems like it's perfect for me)
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After reading Fbodfather's quote directly above your post, you honestly think they'll offer the ZL1 in all the trim levels you describe? I surely don't, and I'm absolutely fine with that to be perfectly honest.

As Scott also recently posted, the ZL1 is not for everyone (but it sure as heck seems like it's perfect for me)
His post was super vague... Few option, most is standard. He's not going to lead on much... plus did you read my post? I said I could be wrong and it was 100% speculation... just like EVERYTHING else about this car right now.
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100% speculation... just like EVERYTHING else about this car right now.
Pshhh it's going to be BA..... thats not speculation!




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Old 10-06-2011, 05:30 PM   #233
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His post was super vague... Few option, most is standard. He's not going to lead on much... plus did you read my post? I said I could be wrong and it was 100% speculation... just like EVERYTHING else about this car right now.
True, but even though he is always vague and at times cryptic, I seem to have developed a very good handle on finding the correct "hidden message" he's trying to get across. I guess it's years of practice, but trust me on this one, I'm fluent in Fbodfather speak.
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I personally don’t think there will be many trim levels if any. There are few options and as Fbodfather said, the ZL1 basically comes fully loaded. Known options include sunroof, suede, stripe, automatic transmission, polished wheels and stripe (or stripe delete). There might be some surprises but that seems to be the general consensus.
...2 trim levels...BADDER, and BADDEST...
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After reading Fbodfather's quote directly above your post, you honestly think they'll offer the ZL1 in all the trim levels you describe? I surely don't, and I'm absolutely fine with that to be perfectly honest.

As Scott also recently posted, the ZL1 is not for everyone (but it sure as heck seems like it's perfect for me)

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His post was super vague... Few option, most is standard. He's not going to lead on much... plus did you read my post? I said I could be wrong and it was 100% speculation... just like EVERYTHING else about this car right now.
There IS NO SPECULATION WITH SCOTT OR THE ZL1, only with you...thank you for choosing Camaro5.
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True, but even though he is always vague and at times cryptic, I seem to have developed a very good handle on finding the correct "hidden message" he's trying to get across. I guess it's years of practice, but trust me on this one, I'm fluent in Fbodfather speak.
And THATS THE TRUTH. Well put Shure.
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Old 10-07-2011, 12:18 AM   #236
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Welcome shockandawe

We don't know how much just yet. Estimates are anywhere from 50-60k, mostly in the 52-55 range.

Yes you can order before the price is set. Ordering begins on the 29th of October, as you probably saw at the beginning of this thread.
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Whatever guys... I am done in the ZL1 area... most of you obviously are living in la-la land.

FACT... NO ONE PUBLICLY KNOWS JACK SHIT ABOUT THIS CAR... not options, not colors, not price, not availibility. We know a modded Camaro with race seats and a roll bar did the ring in 7:41... will the production one . Scott... yea he knows but hes not going to tell you ANYTHING or he'll lose his job. He gives you a worm on a hook then yanks your cheek.

Keep coming up with whatever you all want.... I spoke my opinion on the car... 3 trim levels. You don't think I am right... whatever, I didn't ask if you thought I was right, I gave my opinion.

Why do I think that way??? Because every freaking GM car in the last decade has had that nomenclature... Camaro, Cruze, Corvette... etc, etc, etc. why would this car be any different? If GM is loading everyone of them up... well thats just stupid and a mistake on their part. Maybe someone doesnt like leather or heated seats... maybe they dont want that alcantera everywhere... its a minor set of options that follows suit with the rest of the Camaro line...

I know, because FBodfather... who I respect and have met personally, and not just at mega car shows... says "very few options" now all of a sudden its gospel. Its a bait tactic, he does it ALL THE TIME and thats what keeps his posts interesting... always making you wonder...

We will all know in a few weeks... like I said, maybe I am wrong, frankly I don't care what the car has, I am not buying one... don't want one.
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Old 10-07-2011, 08:40 AM   #239
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The one dealer i stopped at told me they wanted a $5k deposit. i don't think this was right at all. I would say 1k would be fine, bc i would like to test drive it once it gets deliveried
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Whatever guys... I am done in the ZL1 area... most of you obviously are living in la-la land.

FACT... NO ONE PUBLICLY KNOWS JACK SHIT ABOUT THIS CAR... not options, not colors, not price, not availibility. We know a modded Camaro with race seats and a roll bar did the ring in 7:41... will the production one . Scott... yea he knows but hes not going to tell you ANYTHING or he'll lose his job. He gives you a worm on a hook then yanks your cheek.

Keep coming up with whatever you all want.... I spoke my opinion on the car... 3 trim levels. You don't think I am right... whatever, I didn't ask if you thought I was right, I gave my opinion.

Why do I think that way??? Because every freaking GM car in the last decade has had that nomenclature... Camaro, Cruze, Corvette... etc, etc, etc. why would this car be any different? If GM is loading everyone of them up... well thats just stupid and a mistake on their part. Maybe someone doesnt like leather or heated seats... maybe they dont want that alcantera everywhere... its a minor set of options that follows suit with the rest of the Camaro line...

I know, because FBodfather... who I respect and have met personally, and not just at mega car shows... says "very few options" now all of a sudden its gospel. Its a bait tactic, he does it ALL THE TIME and thats what keeps his posts interesting... always making you wonder...

We will all know in a few weeks... like I said, maybe I am wrong, frankly I don't care what the car has, I am not buying one... don't want one.

ACK! I find your opinions very insightful on these boards and value them.
You bring to the table some new and welcome idea's, I hope you'll stick around and continue to do so.
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ACK! I find your opinions very insightful on these boards and value them.
You bring to the table some new and welcome idea's, I hope you'll stick around and continue to do so.


I will... and if you have an specific questions, feel free to PM if i get grumpy and don't come back

I have a few folks that have been asking and I have been helping... i really don't mind helping at all, today has just been a stressful morning... and my previous comments were not directed at those folks... they know who they are.

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...2 trim levels...BADDER, and BADDEST...



There IS NO SPECULATION WITH SCOTT OR THE ZL1, only with you...thank you for choosing Camaro5.

And THATS THE TRUTH. Well put Shure.
frosted my cherrios pretty good this morning! But, as I said... stressful morning, not his (or anyone elses) fault...

I check for updates from my dealer daily... nothing today. i will be sure to let everyone know when I hear anything about options and what not. As of now, no one will know anything about availiability until the 24th...
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I could be wrong but I feel the following would be the case... keep in mind, 100% speculation:

1ZL... similar to the 1SS: cloth seats, no HUD (striped version)
2ZL... Similar to the 2SS: leather/heated seats, HUD (loaded version)
3ZL... same as 2ZL but with the alcantera seats like the Chicago Auto Show car.

Remember, GM loves their number nomenclature. 1-4LT on the Base Corvette, 1-4ZR on the ZR1... it just follows suit.

Other options would be minor... A6/M6... wheels... stripes... sunroof.

Maybe they won't do that and just load them all up but I feel that's a bad idea. I guess we will know soon enough.
I've got to admit I am leaning towards agreeing with this theory...
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The one dealer i stopped at told me they wanted a $5k deposit. i don't think this was right at all. I would say 1k would be fine, bc i would like to test drive it once it gets deliveried
Tell ya what. I am like everyone else on this but hang on to your deposit.
When I get my toy in, ill let you borrow it a week for the 5 grand.
Fair enough? Meaning....Don't do it. and Don't fall for it.

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I've got to admit I am leaning towards agreeing with this theory...
pickins are gonna be slim on this one.
my theory, and again just speculation.
I don't really think there are gonna be that many choices but of the following:
Your choice of wheels either polished or black
choice of auto or standard
Your choice of stripe or no stripe
Your choice of sun roof or no sun roof
You will have some (trim level) choice as to the suede, but I think will be only a matter of choosing if you want suede on your steering wheel, your shifter boot, and your dash.... and only these three areas. Either suede or leather in these three areas.
I think all Zl1 seats will have suede inserts with no other choice
Some cars are getting the option of the heritage grill.
I think it will be a choice on ZL1. Either heritage, or the egg crate grill. ( i think the new grill on the rally yellow will be either late in production or 2013)
Color choices:
Boy aint this a hard one?
Inferno Orange, Silver Ice Metallic, Black, Summit White, Rally Yellow,
Victory Red. Those 6 colors. I don't even think you are gonna be able to get IBM, or the new Crystal Red, or the New Ash Gray.
I think they will pull IBM, and leave Crystal Red and the New Ash for the 2013 CAMARO year.
I do think we will see the New Red and Ash gray on other GM chevy models though this year.
Thats it folks. Nothing more, nothing less.
Thats my opinion only and I am sticking to it.
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I agree with most of your post, my personal feeling is it will be available in all colors except black granite. I do want to see the cgm replacement though.
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I agree with most of your post, my personal feeling is it will be available in all colors except black granite. I do want to see the cgm replacement though.
No black???
We already know its not going to be carbon flash what else is left?
There will be black... Has been black for eons...
Black is Black..where you pulling the "black granite" from?
Do you mean carbon flash metallic? Just trying to keep the confusion down is all.
....ok did a fast search. Black granite is a 2012 GM color for other models but nothing has been mentioned about it being on camaro.. looks like it is the same as what we call carbon flash...
just saying....
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Lol, my bad. Black granite metallic is the color of my traverse (which I happen to be sitting in while the wife is in the fabric store), color is very, very similar to carbon flash.
I am quite sure black will be offered.
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yes, correct. I see that now..
Looks to be the same as carbon flash. On camaro it is specifically for the 45th anni only.
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Exactly, what is weird is you cannot get regular black on the Corvette.
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Black granite is the exact same paint code as carbon flash.
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