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Old 10-12-2011, 10:02 PM   #276
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Earlier this evening I sent a PM to BeckyD asking her for information. This her reply shedding some important information for all of us. Thanks again Becky.

Becky can you please shed some light for all of us about the Oct. 29th and Nov. 03 dates that you posted. Will we actually place our orders with the dealers on the 29th or is this just to let them know that we want a car. Then on Nov. 03 we actually place the exact order with the color and options that we want. If you can help us, I would really appreciate it. Thanks Steve

Steve,
We as dealers have 2 systems to order cars in Order Workbench. The one system will be available to create an order on the 29th. The other system comes up on the 3rd. Same end result, you can create an order and get an order #. I'm not sure when exactly the orders will be available to place, so everything will sit at 1100 until that time.

Hope that helps, but if you have any other questions, please don't hesitate to ask.

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Old 10-12-2011, 11:31 PM   #277
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Earlier this evening I sent a PM to BeckyD asking her for information. This her reply shedding some important information for all of us. Thanks again Becky.

Becky can you please shed some light for all of us about the Oct. 29th and Nov. 03 dates that you posted. Will we actually place our orders with the dealers on the 29th or is this just to let them know that we want a car. Then on Nov. 03 we actually place the exact order with the color and options that we want. If you can help us, I would really appreciate it. Thanks Steve

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We as dealers have 2 systems to order cars in Order Workbench. The one system will be available to create an order on the 29th. The other system comes up on the 3rd. Same end result, you can create an order and get an order #. I'm not sure when exactly the orders will be available to place, so everything will sit at 1100 until that time.

Hope that helps, but if you have any other questions, please don't hesitate to ask.

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I fully understood every word that was said.
Not.
Sounds like by that they will stay at 1100 until jan anyway...which would make sense..
two systems two dates.....
And nothing really to share...
Good grief.....

its not being explained any further simply because they don't want us to know until the 29th and nov 3rd...
They still not have explained if we can order the car WITH all the options
on the 29th.....
Sounds like a simple yes or no question at this point.
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Old 10-12-2011, 11:40 PM   #278
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Sounds like a simple yes or no question at this point.
Maybe everything is not set yet???
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Old 10-13-2011, 12:04 AM   #279
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gah i hope everything goes as planned ):
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Old 10-13-2011, 12:05 AM   #280
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Maybe everything is not set yet???
I agree. No kiddin...

"keepin the faith here"
Everything will be fine. Its just a timing thing is all...
We don't have to know everything I suppose. We wont know pricing till after the fact either.... .
How can you buy something if you don't know how much it cost?
LOL!
Cause we can thats why!
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Bruce will u PM me bro... im new to this ordering deal... never done it before... drakeheminger@yahoo.com thanks bro... maybe we can keep in contact with latest updates
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Old 10-13-2011, 12:07 AM   #282
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Old 10-13-2011, 12:19 AM   #283
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Old 10-13-2011, 04:36 AM   #284
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Guys... Don't get all worked up on dates... I know everyone is excited BUT they aren't even going to start building till after the first of the year... another 5 days won't amount to anything... honestly as long as a dealer as an allocation slot, you could walk in December 31 and possibly have your car before the ones who ordered the 29th... or 3rd.

That said, I do understand the excitement. I take Becky's reply as it's the same... either date works but it is a little misguiding. As far as options, I'm sure they are finaled but won't be released until my guess is the 29th...

Good luck guys... Just a short time now! You should all have your shiney 2012 ZL1s by spring! (should)
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How can you buy something if you don't know how much it cost?
LOL!
Cause we can thats why!
And because you reaaaaaalllly want it!

Im sure it will all work out in the end.
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Old 10-13-2011, 11:41 AM   #286
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thx Camaro King(: and Iroc i would be pissed if thats true... if im the first to cough up the doe i want the first car that comes... this car is going to be somewhat limited and my dealership is only getting two for now so... i better get atleast one! lol
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Old 10-13-2011, 12:00 PM   #287
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I can make the order easy for what i want..

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Old 10-13-2011, 12:16 PM   #288
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thx Camaro King(: and Iroc i would be pissed if thats true... if im the first to cough up the doe i want the first car that comes... this car is going to be somewhat limited and my dealership is only getting two for now so... i better get atleast one! lol
Drake, the problem is you could have $60k cash in your pocket.
If the dealer is only allocated two Zl1's and those two are spoken for by lets say JC Penny, and Walmart.... Guess what?
You will need to find another dealer with allocation..
I know its not fair, but GM has its rules it goes by.
The dealer is the manufacture's customer and the manufacturer dictates how many cars (ZL1'S )said dealership can have.
But no worries. If you want one, you can have one. Call your dealer and see where you stand on they're waiting list for ZL1. You might be surprised as some dealers don't even know about the car, so there fore they do not have a line waiting for it.
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thx Camaro King(: and Iroc i would be pissed if thats true... if im the first to cough up the doe i want the first car that comes... this car is going to be somewhat limited and my dealership is only getting two for now so... i better get atleast one! lol
Drake... Here is the catch, you could be the first order in the world, pay cash upfront PLUS a $50,000 mark up and you STILL might not get your car first... or second... or tenth... if your car gets stuck in QC or takes longer in transit... you just never know and no one has any control. All you can do is place your order and wait... it's out of your or your dealers hands at that point.
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What i have in writing is the dealer saying that they must order and i must retrieve from them a zl1 asap... its signed and wintessed and everything so it is a legal document... i would hope they wouldnt be pulling strings with me saying im getting one and reall they have no idea... that would be false advertisment, misleading customer, lying all together... i would hire an attorney bc of all the money i already forked out... which they insisted i do anyway so...
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but yea my order is simple black black black black emblem cover and automatic... i no im one of those people (; lol haha
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What i have in writing is the dealer saying that they must order and i must retrieve from them a zl1 asap... its signed and wintessed and everything so it is a legal document... i would hope they wouldnt be pulling strings with me saying im getting one and reall they have no idea... that would be false advertisment, misleading customer, lying all together... i would hire an attorney bc of all the money i already forked out... which they insisted i do anyway so...
It's not the dealer... It's GM, some cars get stuck in QC... it happens and the dealer has ZERO control.
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It's not the dealer... It's GM, some cars get stuck in QC... it happens and the dealer has ZERO control.
Agree and can happen to any model. Just ask Becky@Rodgers. Our Cruze LTZ was delayed for quite awhile earlier this year and she tried everything. I'm hoping for everyone buying one, the dealers don't get crazy with Market Adjustment $ especially after the Ring Results.
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Agree and can happen to any model. Just ask Becky@Rodgers. Our Cruze LTZ was delayed for quite awhile earlier this year and she tried everything. I'm hoping for everyone buying one, the dealers don't get crazy with Market Adjustment $ especially after the Ring Results.
Should have asked me... My dad is skilled trades at the Cruze plant in Lordstown... I could have had him check on it for you.
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Should have asked me... My dad is skilled trades at the Cruze plant in Lordstown... I could have had him check on it for you.
Nice now you tell me LOL Tell him thanks for helping make a great small car. We love the car and why we just added another.
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Will do! Thanks!

They are nice, my dad and grandma have matching Crystal Red LTZs.

Funny tho, he also drives a supercharged 2007 GT I was so excited to show him my Camaro in 2009... I met him with it at a car show. As we were walking to it, he says... "ya know, I just don't like the new Camaros" :(
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hey Sam Witwicky's parents have one too! lol haha
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It's not the dealer... It's GM, some cars get stuck in QC... it happens and the dealer has ZERO control.
That's exactly what happened with the Vert I ordered back in January.
The car was made on 3-22-11, left the plant property 3-24-11 and sat in an 'overflow' lot next to the plant for 4 weeks.
All I wanted was an answer from SOMEONE as to why it was still sitting in a lot after 4 weeks.
My dealer made many inqueries on my behalf but they couldn't get a good answer from anyone in the GM supply chain of command.
The dealer was very helpful and did all they could, but we never did get an answer from anyone in GM.
I finally got tired of waiting, found a similar car at a local dealer and bought it instead.
Of course the car left the lot in Canada the day after I aborted the order. Murphey is indeed still alive and active.
Of course the dealer now had to find another buyer for a fully loaded $50k+ Vert just because we couldn't get an answer from GM.
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The car was made on 3-22-11, left the plant property 3-24-11 and sat in an 'overflow' lot next to the plant for 4 weeks.
All I wanted was an answer from SOMEONE as to why it was still sitting in a lot after 4 weeks.
My dealer made many inqueries on my behalf but they couldn't get a good answer from anyone in the GM supply chain of command.
May be mistaken(and not sure it included Camaros) but wasn't that around the time when the transport dispute was going on between the Hauler, GM and Chrysler affecting a bunch of deliveries?
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May be mistaken(and not sure it included Camaros) but wasn't that around the time when the transport dispute was going on between the Hauler, GM and Chrysler affecting a bunch of deliveries?
It was just after the strike was over. It was not one of the cars the trucking company was holding hostage. Some speculated that when they couldn't ship any cars because of the strike, the cars they continued to produce were simply stored in lots next to the plant. Someone suggested that that was why my Vert was in the lot so long. They thought that perhaps my car went into the 'temporary' lot, then when they started shipping the cars again, they had a backlog in the lots, and some of those cars were forgotten till they could be re-introduced into the shipping schedule.
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