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Old 09-10-2011, 11:19 PM   #76
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This car is Not going to start at the so quoted $48,000 and some change, like a ton of folks think... You will be lucky if it has a starting MSRP of $52,000, we all know how General Motors thinks.. Don't get me wrong, I have a 2011 1SS and I would love this car but the reality is GM/Chevy dealers are gonna squeeze as much out of it as they will allow...With all this Performance equipment I have been reading about, I cannot believe this car is going to be a sub-$50,000 MSRP starting price, I wish it was, like $42,000(LoL)...



My guess 2012 Camaro ZL1 = MSRP $57,495
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This car is Not going to start at the so quoted $48,000 and some change, like a ton of folks think... You will be lucky if it has a starting MSRP of $52,000, we all know how General Motors thinks.. Don't get me wrong, I have a 2011 1SS and I would love this car but the reality is GM/Chevy dealers are gonna squeeze as much out of it as they will allow...With all this Performance equipment I have been reading about, I cannot believe this car is going to be a sub-$50,000 MSRP starting price, I wish it was, like $42,000(LoL)...



My guess 2012 Camaro ZL1 = MSRP $57,495
You have a point - it's LOADED with technology and performance...but you've got to remember it's slated to compete directly with the GT500 Mustang. An almost $10,000 premium won't make that very possible...
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Old 09-11-2011, 03:41 PM   #78
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GM is gonna make you believe that all this added Performance Equipment is going to be worth a much higher Premium over the Competing Ford base GT500... Don't be shocked when you go to buy this ZL1 the Price is going to be close to the $55,000-$60,000 range.. And GM is well aware and will take into account that alot of folks really want this car(myself included) and they will make you Pay for this 2012 Camaro ZL1..and pay a High Premium...
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You have a point - it's LOADED with technology and performance...but you've got to remember it's slated to compete directly with the GT500 Mustang. An almost $10,000 premium won't make that very possible...
I am trying to keep the faith...... Buuuuuut it sure does seem like it is going to have a lot more "Tech" than the GT500, and more "Tech" usually means more money.

I really really really hope my gut is wrong on this one.......
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GM is gonna make you believe that all this added Performance Equipment is going to be worth a much higher Premium over the Competing Ford base GT500... Don't be shocked when you go to buy this ZL1 the Price is going to be close to the $55,000-$60,000 range.. And GM is well aware and will take into account that alot of folks really want this car(myself included) and they will make you Pay for this 2012 Camaro ZL1..and pay a High Premium...
I don't think so. Not that high. Because then they're putting themselves in direct competition with the GS Vette, CTS-V...all while removing themselves from the market who buys GT500s...

Yes - this car is amazing...and we all want it badly...and recognize & value the tech...but Chevy (and Camaro) is still a value brand. I believe it'll be priced as such.

You see - they've essentially taken the CTS-V components and "tweaked" it to serve the performance-oriented Camaro enthusiast. If you do the quick math looking at the difference in cost between an LLT-powered CTS vs CTS-V...and then apply that same math to a 2LT Camaro...price ends up in the range of 47000-54,000 depending on which model CTS you find appropriate and how much extra you think the work going into the ZL1 will be.

My mind has the base price just a hair under 51k.

We'll see, though.

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I am trying to keep the faith...... Buuuuuut it sure does seem like it is going to have a lot more "Tech" than the GT500, and more "Tech" usually means more money.

I really really really hope my gut is wrong on this one.......
Keep the faith.

Don't scare yourself before THEY tell us how much it will be. I know I'm anxious to know...got to defend against the endless speculation until then!
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Old 09-11-2011, 04:26 PM   #81
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Don't kid yourself about a starting MSRP of $47,000... and if it does, the dealers will find a way of throwing in multiple options that will drive the price up High and I don't think GM is worried about stepping on Corvette toes and CTS-V toes, they have a strong following in the Camaro fans base and I am sure those that want the Camaro ZL1 will focus on the ZL1.. GM knows they have a very desirable car in the 2012 ZL1 and will take full advantage, do you really think they will charge a MSRP of $47,000 when alot of folks will probably agree to pay over that, if push comes to shove ??
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Old 09-11-2011, 04:29 PM   #82
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Don't kid yourself about a starting MSRP of $47,000... and if it does, the dealers will find a way of throwing in multiple options that will drive the price up High and I don't think GM is worried about stepping on Corvette toes and CTS-V toes, they have a strong following in the Camaro fans base and I am sure those that want the Camaro ZL1 will focus on the ZL1.. GM knows they have a very desirable car in the 2012 ZL1 and will take full advantage, do you really think they will charge a MSRP of $47,000 when alot of folks will probably agree to pay over that, if push comes to shove ??
I don't believe I ever said I believed it'll start at 47,000.
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Old 09-11-2011, 04:51 PM   #83
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I was saying $48,500 before we found out about Mag-Ride.

With all we've learned since then, my official guess is still just under Fifty Large, but they could justify a touch more. I think over 52 would no longer be considered "competitive" with GT 500, so I really believe it will fall somewhere under there.


We have been told a multitude of times that the price will be competitive. I have the faith here as well.


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Don't scare yourself before THEY tell us how much it will be. I know I'm anxious to know...got to defend against the endless speculation until then!
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Old 09-11-2011, 06:28 PM   #85
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The last GT500 that was at my local dealer had a sticker price of $54,500.....
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Old 09-11-2011, 07:01 PM   #86
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Got a call from my local dealer on Friday ,that they were now taking pre deposits, will be going Monday. Yes!
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Old 09-12-2011, 02:30 PM   #87
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Well, i got a call from my local dealer on sat. he stated that as of right now only one car would be offered to each dealership but the dealership must meet the requirements of selling "X" vehicles to make the dealer list for the new ZL1. He also said this is going to be a limited production only vehicle, maybe 1 yr only. In turn he mentioned that i was first on the list.....is this true?? is he playing games??? I'm just wondering if its worth waiting....you guys tell me!!
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Old 09-12-2011, 02:42 PM   #88
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My dealer told me the same thing when I put my deposit down.....hmmmm
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Old 09-12-2011, 02:45 PM   #89
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this zl1 is gonna chop chop any mustang in the wayyyyyy
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Old 09-12-2011, 02:48 PM   #90
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listen it is not gonna be more than 50,000 for that ill get the grand sport corvette
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Old 09-12-2011, 02:56 PM   #91
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i was told i couldnt put my deposit down till Nov. I wonder if this dealer is even going to make the list???
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Old 09-12-2011, 02:58 PM   #92
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listen it is not gonna be more than 50,000 for that ill get the grand sport corvette
Yes it will actually. You should just sell your v6 and get the grand sport.
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The last GT500 that was at my local dealer had a sticker price of $54,500.....
With added options I'm sure...
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Old 09-12-2011, 03:07 PM   #94
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listen it is not gonna be more than 50,000 for that ill get the grand sport corvette
Enjoy the Corvette.... But keep in mind if you price out the Grand Sport to include the performance features you get with the ZL1 (dual mode exhaust, magnetic suspension, etc...) it is closer to $60,000 even on a 2011 2LT. Get a higher trim package and the 2012 model and you are way over $60,000 MSRP. The Corvette is lighter but the power to weight ratio isn't as good, so it is all about what you are looking to do with the car.
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Well, i got a call from my local dealer on sat. he stated that as of right now only one car would be offered to each dealership but the dealership must meet the requirements of selling "X" vehicles to make the dealer list for the new ZL1. He also said this is going to be a limited production only vehicle, maybe 1 yr only. In turn he mentioned that i was first on the list.....is this true?? is he playing games??? I'm just wondering if its worth waiting....you guys tell me!!


If only a 1 year production, then I'm out. The posters here are right. GM will take full advantage of the desire for this car and the price will be high, period. That's why I waited 2 years to buy mine. If people do pay $50K+ for it (and they will) AND it only lasts for a 1 year production model, then the gouge price will never fall IMO. I'd just as soon super charge my SS for under $10K and get that type of performance for a LOT less money if it goes well over $50K. I'm sure you can add body kits, hoods, and whatever else they'll make and make it almost look exactly like one too.
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Well, i got a call from my local dealer on sat. he stated that as of right now only one car would be offered to each dealership but the dealership must meet the requirements of selling "X" vehicles to make the dealer list for the new ZL1. He also said this is going to be a limited production only vehicle, maybe 1 yr only. In turn he mentioned that i was first on the list.....is this true?? is he playing games??? I'm just wondering if its worth waiting....you guys tell me!!
True. Except the part about it being a 1 year only run. high Chevrolet sales and high Camaro sales factor in. So, don't count on "Bob's Chevrolet" Getting an allocation unless he really does a huge volume.
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Old 09-12-2011, 07:38 PM   #97
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Look - folks....

I don't often make broad "This is the facts" statements...because it's rare I'm ever 100% correct.....

HOWEVER...

Chevrolet did NOT put two+ years of development and effort into this car to only build it for one or two years. You can take that to Church on Sunday.
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Look - folks....

I don't often make broad "This is the facts" statements...because it's rare I'm ever 100% correct.....

HOWEVER...

Chevrolet did NOT put two+ years of development and effort into this car to only build it for one or two years. You can take that to Church on Sunday.
Wise he is. Truth and common sense there is in this post.
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Look - folks....

I don't often make broad "This is the facts" statements...because it's rare I'm ever 100% correct.....

HOWEVER...

Chevrolet did NOT put two+ years of development and effort into this car to only build it for one or two years. You can take that to Church on Sunday.
I agree, if it was a cosmetic change sure but to go this far into it for one production year...
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I don't know why so many people are convinced the ZL1 is going to be some absurdly low production one year only vehicle...has anyone ever heard of the ZR1 Corvette? It's another of GM's fabled one year only extremely rare vehicles that GM put 2+ years of development into just to sell 6 or 7 of them...
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