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Old 09-12-2011, 09:07 PM   #99
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Look - folks....

I don't often make broad "This is the facts" statements...because it's rare I'm ever 100% correct.....

HOWEVER...

Chevrolet did NOT put two+ years of development and effort into this car to only build it for one or two years. You can take that to Church on Sunday.
I agree, if it was a cosmetic change sure but to go this far into it for one production year...
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Old 09-12-2011, 10:47 PM   #100
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I don't know why so many people are convinced the ZL1 is going to be some absurdly low production one year only vehicle...has anyone ever heard of the ZR1 Corvette? It's another of GM's fabled one year only extremely rare vehicles that GM put 2+ years of development into just to sell 6 or 7 of them...
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Old 09-12-2011, 11:26 PM   #101
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Saturday, October 29, 2011
2012 Camaro ZL1 Ordering open through Order Workbench’s Quick Order
Application (ZL1 ordering information will be available in Order Workbench’s traditional Order Configurator on Thursday, November 3, 2011)
So, when can i walk into my dealership and place my order? 10/29 or 11/3? I want to schedule an appointment!
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Old 09-13-2011, 11:51 PM   #102
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Release of Individual Dealer’s Estimated Production Guide Number for ZL1


Late First Quarter 2012
First production units begin to arrive at select dealers

So how will we know in advance which dealers will be getting allocations for orders? Will all dealers get them? I ask because I wanna go ahead and put money down to insure I get an allocation.
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Old 09-14-2011, 09:30 AM   #103
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I can totally see the idea of a starting price where the GT500 is with it's track pack. I think a small premium over may not be out of the question either.
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Old 09-14-2011, 10:22 AM   #104
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2012 ZL1

I just to the General Sales Manager at Stingway Chevrolet in Plant City, FLorida. He just attended a sales meeting yesterday. He is being told that production is limited to about 500 units for the 1st year. Any truth???

thanks Keith
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Old 09-14-2011, 10:36 AM   #105
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The last GT500 that was at my local dealer had a sticker price of $54,500.....
Just looked up the pricing on the GT500 2012 and it starts at $49,495 and with options at adders:

Other than that, little — including pricing — has changed. Ford tells us 2012 GT500 coupes and convertibles start at $49,495 and $54,495, respectively (including destination), just as the 2011 models did. Navigation and automatic climate control appear to remain a $2340 bundle, while the glass roof feature can still be added for $1995. The aforementioned SVT Performance Package also returns for 2012, although its price jumps $500 to $3995.



Read more: http://wot.motortrend.com/ford-holds...#ixzz1XwP5dimI

So here is your comparable pricing to go by if GM is going to be competetive. That is what I was thinking on pricing 50K to 57K. The camaro has always been priced a little higher than the Mustangs at all levels. So you take that base price and add the SVT Performance Package then destination and you will be right there at the $54,500.
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Old 09-14-2011, 10:37 AM   #106
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I just to the General Sales Manager at Stingway Chevrolet in Plant City, FLorida. He just attended a sales meeting yesterday. He is being told that production is limited to about 500 units for the 1st year. Any truth???

thanks Keith
That rumor has been popping up a lot, I hope it isn't true.
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Old 09-14-2011, 11:27 AM   #107
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That rumor has been popping up a lot, I hope it isn't true.
It would be nice to get some official guidance from Chevrolet on what the current 2012 ZL1 target production numbers are.

Initially Chevrolet indicated that ZL1 production would not be limited, and I don't believe that policy has been contradicted by any official Chevrolet statement.

However, recently several "dealer" rumors have been circulating that the 2012 ZL1 production run will be limited and that many dealers will not receive an allocation for any 2012 ZL1s. I hope that this is not the case.

Scott, can you provide us with any rough guidance with regard to current 2012 ZL1 target production numbers?
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Old 09-14-2011, 11:52 AM   #108
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By limited, I'm sure they mean inital allocations, or first shipment. While not limited in production, I could understand limits to the cars initially built and shipped from first runs of production. This would tend to be something which may or may not happen based on initial orders. I personally don't believe there are going to be problems getting a ZL1 in a reasonable amount of time, and all it means is some people may have to wait longer for delivery than others?
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Old 09-14-2011, 12:16 PM   #109
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When I spoke to Stingray Chevrolet, they indicated limited production compared to normal Camaro numbers......the 500 units the first year was alittle surprising.....
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Old 09-14-2011, 12:48 PM   #110
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By limited, I'm sure they mean inital allocations, or first shipment. While not limited in production, I could understand limits to the cars initially built and shipped from first runs of production. This would tend to be something which may or may not happen based on initial orders. I personally don't believe there are going to be problems getting a ZL1 in a reasonable amount of time, and all it means is some people may have to wait longer for delivery than others?
This is consistent with my current belief and with what Chevrolet has stated regarding ZL1 production. There may be some initial allocation issues, but if one has a little patience and diligence, one will be able to purchase a 2012 ZL1 if one so desires. However, it would be nice to get some reconfirmation from Chevrolet regarding targeted 2012 ZL1 production numbers.
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Old 09-14-2011, 01:20 PM   #111
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Hmm here are my thoughts concerning the allocation numbers on the ZL1.

First this car is starting production in Januaryof 2012. I believe this is a rather slow time for factory orders, so hopefully this will allow them to make a larger quantity of ZL1"s.

On the flip side this is a brand new car so they make take it slowly on the
assemble line during the first quarter of production. This will help detect any unforseen issues that may arise. Then as they go into the last three
quarters of the year go into a faster pace of production.

Perhaps that figure of 500 that's being suggested as a full year production
run is actually a number for the first quarter. But they hinted that the
number was for the full year, so that dealers would not get upset when they intially only recieve 1 or 2 ZL1's. Then as the year progresses the dealers are latter informed that they ahve more to sell. Although this
reasoning could backfire in the long run and the buyers that wanted the ZL1 may end up buying some other car instead.

My own personal opinion is that they will produce 500 in the first quarter and then around 1,000 in each of the last three quarters of the year.
The final production number for the year between 3,500 to 5,000.
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Remember 2012 production will probably end in July, then they start building 2013s. With a slow ramp up as in any new model it is very possible that 2012 production of ZL1s will be limited with full availability in 2013.
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