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Old 09-26-2011, 02:11 AM   #176
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Just wanted to say "hi" to everyone on this forum. I've been reading it for a long time but since I'm planning on getting a ZL1 I figured I might as well contribute to the general hysteria involving all the speculation about the car of our collective dreams (our affordable dreams, that is). I wouldn't mind having a Ferrari 458 Italia, but when I wake up I remember I'm not rolling in dough.

So when we're all wondering what color we're going to get or how much it is really going to cost, count me in.... Worst case scenario, I'll just wait until the initial rush is over and the dealers come back down from the premiums-over-MSRP craze because of their low allocations....which should be around summer time - almost time to see what is in store for 2013! I've never paid anything near MSRP (I ordered my '98 SS for 2 bills over dealer invoice) - so if I can get a commitment for a reasonable price I'll order again.

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Old 09-26-2011, 04:22 AM   #177
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Too bad he is in Cali...wonder what restrictions will be on the ZL1 there.
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Old 09-26-2011, 06:05 AM   #178
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Too bad he is in Cali...wonder what restrictions will be on the ZL1 there.
What do you mean restrictions? We get the same car as you get, we are just restricted on what aftermarket parts we put on. Plus there are ways around it. I haven't had to smog a vehicle in 10 years. Do you think my 438 twin turbo Denali would pass smog?
The one good thing (or bad) depending how you look at it. We don't have yearly inpections. Just a smog check every two years and if your vehicle is new it doesn't have to be smoged for 5 or 6 years.
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What do you mean restrictions? We get the same car as you get, we are just restricted on what aftermarket parts we put on. Plus there are ways around it. I haven't had to smog a vehicle in 10 years. Do you think my 438 twin turbo Denali would pass smog?
The one good thing (or bad) depending how you look at it. We don't have yearly inpections. Just a smog check every two years and if your vehicle is new it doesn't have to be smoged for 5 or 6 years.
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I was under the misimpression that you all had more vehicle manufacture restrictions on the vehicles...though perhaps I should have stated that opening up the air restrictions on the engine and exhaust were what I was actually getting at in the long run. I am pretty sure there use to be a difference back in the day between a california camaro and the rest of the U.S. such as the second generation the latter years 78-81. Any information about that to verify or dispel the illusion?
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I was under the misimpression that you all had more vehicle manufacture restrictions on the vehicles...though perhaps I should have stated that opening up the air restrictions on the engine and exhaust were what I was actually getting at in the long run. I am pretty sure there use to be a difference back in the day between a california camaro and the rest of the U.S. such as the second generation the latter years 78-81. Any information about that to verify or dispel the illusion?

Ok,, I gotcha,
Yes you are correct that in the old days there there was a difference.
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Old 09-27-2011, 01:25 PM   #181
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So i official found out that there is going to be a very limited amount of ZL1's!!!! not lying, not a rumor. This is from GM itself. There's only one dealership in the state of Virginia that will get a ZL1, only one! for the whole entire year of 2012!!! Sorry to bust everyones bubble, but there's not going to be many made!! Sorry, spread the word!
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Old 09-27-2011, 01:25 PM   #182
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oh i also heard the first one is going to be limited edition, dont know if thats true or not but that also came from GM.
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Old 09-27-2011, 01:49 PM   #183
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So i official found out that there is going to be a very limited amount of ZL1's!!!! not lying, not a rumor. This is from GM itself. There's only one dealership in the state of Virginia that will get a ZL1, only one! for the whole entire year of 2012!!! Sorry to bust everyones bubble, but there's not going to be many made!! Sorry, spread the word!


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So i official found out that there is going to be a very limited amount of ZL1's!!!! not lying, not a rumor. This is from GM itself. There's only one dealership in the state of Virginia that will get a ZL1, only one! for the whole entire year of 2012!!! Sorry to bust everyones bubble, but there's not going to be many made!! Sorry, spread the word!
Rumors such as this without a specific source are meaningless. The ZL1 is not a limited edition vehicle.

The official statement regarding ZL1 production from Camaro Marketing Manager, John Fitz is that Chevrolet "will do everything to match the market demand" for the ZL1.

That doesn't mean that initial production availability may not be somewhat limited to due production line ramp up and supplier parts availability issues. However, after the initial production issues are resolved, ZL1s should be available to all who want one who have a little diligence and patience.
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So i official found out that there is going to be a very limited amount of ZL1's!!!! not lying, not a rumor. This is from GM itself. There's only one dealership in the state of Virginia that will get a ZL1, only one! for the whole entire year of 2012!!! Sorry to bust everyones bubble, but there's not going to be many made!! Sorry, spread the word!
So let's see some proof that you are speaking the truth.
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How long does anyone expect '12s to be produced - honestly? I'm going bonkers over these "the sky is falling!!!"-type posts. If they start hitting the streets, in January, say, and shut the plant down in May (or whatever) for the '13 model year start, OF COURSE there's going to be a limited amount produced!... wait for it... FOR 2012!!! OMG. GM's already said they are not going to limit production. They're going to produce as many as there is demand. If they're only going to have, say, 5 months of production, of course not all dealers are going to get one, if any.

I give up. I'll just start deleting posts, lol.
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How long does anyone expect '12s to be produced - honestly? I'm going bonkers over these "the sky is falling!!!"-type posts. If they start hitting the streets, in January, say, and shut the plant down in May (or whatever) for the '13 model year start, OF COURSE there's going to be a limited amount produced!... wait for it... FOR 2012!!! OMG. GM's already said they are not going to limit production. They're going to produce as many as there is demand. If they're only going to have, say, 5 months of production, of course not all dealers are going to get one, if any.

I give up. I'll just start deleting posts, lol.
I guess at the very least then I may have to wait maybe up to another year to get mine if only exclusive dealers get the first go of them. In reality, I thought as much seeing how I deal with a small town dealer that probably only sells 4 or 5 vettes in a year if their lucky. I'm first on their list ,but it doesn't mean I'm anywhere close to the top of GM's list. I guess time will tell.
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How long does anyone expect '12s to be produced - honestly? I'm going bonkers over these "the sky is falling!!!"-type posts. If they start hitting the streets, in January, say, and shut the plant down in May (or whatever) for the '13 model year start, OF COURSE there's going to be a limited amount produced!... wait for it... FOR 2012!!! OMG. GM's already said they are not going to limit production. They're going to produce as many as there is demand. If they're only going to have, say, 5 months of production, of course not all dealers are going to get one, if any.

I give up. I'll just start deleting posts, lol.
Wait... Wut? Its not falling.....


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Gotta love camaro5.com , sometimes I just log in here to get a chuckle or two and see whats happening so far in the world of my future car. BTW
the sky is not falling here atm, but we had one heck of an earthquake a
couple of months ago. Plus not to long ago with all those storms we had a
couple of weeks ago, the animals were lining up to my back deck in pairs.
They must of thought it looked like an arc or something, but their gone now, just a false alarm.
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Old 09-27-2011, 02:54 PM   #190
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How long does anyone expect '12s to be produced - honestly? I'm going bonkers over these "the sky is falling!!!"-type posts. If they start hitting the streets, in January, say, and shut the plant down in May (or whatever) for the '13 model year start, OF COURSE there's going to be a limited amount produced!... wait for it... FOR 2012!!! OMG. GM's already said they are not going to limit production. They're going to produce as many as there is demand. If they're only going to have, say, 5 months of production, of course not all dealers are going to get one, if any.

I give up. I'll just start deleting posts, lol.
I think the reality is your on the money. Some my have to wait for a '13 year model but what would be so wrong in that either?
I agree just making statements like this without any kind of source just dumps fuel on the fire that was already starting to smoulder.
ok, where is the BS flag. Oh, there it is..LOL
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Gotta love camaro5.com , sometimes I just log in here to get a chuckle or two and see whats happening so far in the world of my future car. BTW
the sky is not falling here atm, but we had one heck of an earthquake a
couple of months ago. Plus not to long ago with all those storms we had a
couple of weeks ago, the animals were lining up to my back deck in pairs.
They must of thought it looked like an arc or something, but their gone now, just a false alarm.
What dealership's list are you on?
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I'm affraid many of you may have to wait until the middle to this time next year, but ZL1 is coming and GM isn't limiting production. Until they announce it, everything else is pointless. On the whole, members here are more knowledgable than you get from most dealers. We have dealers, here, though, that really set the bar high, so maybe I'm getting spoiled.
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Rumors such as this without a specific source are meaningless. The ZL1 is not a limited edition vehicle.

The official statement regarding ZL1 production from Camaro Marketing Manager, John Fitz is that Chevrolet "will do everything to match the market demand" for the ZL1.

That doesn't mean that initial production availability may not be somewhat limited to due production line ramp up and supplier parts availability issues. However, after the initial production issues are resolved, ZL1s should be available to all who want one who have a little diligence and patience.
most parts true. I dont like rumors, i like cold hard facts. If i stated the source of my information and it ended up being true, than my chances of getting that one ZL1 at that dealership just went down. I've talked to a manager that works in GM for 16 years, he was assuring that from what he heard the ZL1's were going to be hard to get, every other big dealerships in the states will get one, maybe two in a year if there lucky. He also said that he was sure there will be a limited edition FIRST.
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I'm affraid many of you may have to wait until the middle to this time next year, but ZL1 is coming and GM isn't limiting production. Until they announce it, everything else is pointless. On the whole, members here are more knowledgable than you get from most dealers. We have dealers, here, though, that really set the bar high, so maybe I'm getting spoiled.
than how come a friend that works in GM and a manager than works in GM for 16 years that have many connections to the production and sells of the car tell me this! they both said the same thing. It is going to be limited. I dont like it ether but this is coming from GM
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than how come a friend that works in GM and a manager than works in GM for 16 years that have many connections to the production and sells of the car tell me this! they both said the same thing. It is going to be limited. I dont like it ether but this is coming from GM
Your friend from GM may want to be careful as they would lose their job for telling you any information like this. I do not see how someone would release information like this and risk being let go from their company...
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than how come a friend that works in GM and a manager than works in GM for 16 years that have many connections to the production and sells of the car tell me this! they both said the same thing. It is going to be limited. I dont like it ether but this is coming from GM
The 2012 year will be a "limited" run like bear tried to explain to you in the other post. Not limited as in "limited edition." Big difference here. 2013 will be a big production run of ZL1's appearing everywhere. You will see.
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Sorry...
But it unless it comes from the mouth of "the father" or al, john, or anyone else higher up in the Chevrolet chain on the totem pole I take with a grain of salt...
I am sure you will find most the members on here will do the same. The "flavor" of what your friend told you is true. For the most part. BUT... does anyone know what happens when "truth" and "lies" are mixed together?
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than how come a friend that works in GM and a manager than works in GM for 16 years that have many connections to the production and sells of the car tell me this! they both said the same thing. It is going to be limited. I dont like it ether but this is coming from GM

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than how come a friend that works in GM and a manager than works in GM for 16 years that have many connections to the production and sells of the car tell me this! they both said the same thing. It is going to be limited. I dont like it ether but this is coming from GM
uncle worked in the Navy for 26 years, had high connections to the top...he had no clue when the first bomb hit Iraq and how many were going to be dropped. Your friend and the manager know donkey crap about the ZL1...end of story.

Ford dealers and Ford brass themselves were telling everyone in 2006 that the 2007 Shelby GT500 was very limited production only.........they're still making them to this day!
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